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02:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #20274: util: Drop redundant NDEBUG check (master...201030-ndebug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20274
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06:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild closed pull request #20272: Add missing thread safety annotations (master...add_missing_tsa) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20272
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07:53 < luke-jr> sipa: no, I don't run BE
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07:54 < luke-jr> [04:49:40] <narispo> luke-jr: Fedora uses conservative power8
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08:51 < sipa> luke-jr: how about the LE variant?
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09:45 < luke-jr> sipa: -mcpu=970 does not work on LE at all
09:45 < luke-jr> note while technically PPC64 has always been bi-endian, the 970 CPU was firmware-tied to BE
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09:51 < sipa> luke-jr: i see
09:51 < sipa> and the LE ones are built as power8
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09:58 < sipa> luke-jr: i guess the most popular 970 hardware would be imac g5's?
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10:07 < yanmaani> why does bitcoin only support certain arches?
10:07 < yanmaani> if you'd compile it for all arches and run the tests, wouldn't that catch undesirable unportable code?
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10:32 < luke-jr> sipa: yes
10:33 < luke-jr> yanmaani: what?
10:34 < sipa> luke-jr: that sounds rather ancient :)
10:34 < luke-jr> sipa: indeed
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10:36 < yanmaani> luke-jr: If Bitcoin Core is written in conforming C++, it should work on all arches, right?
10:36 < yanmaani> so isn't it good for code quality to run the tests on all arches, even the totally obscure ones?
10:36 < luke-jr> yanmaani: if possible
10:37 < yanmaani> Why would it be impossible?
10:37 < luke-jr> nobody willing to do it?
10:38 < yanmaani> if you're using qemu anyway, can't you just add all the arches to travis?
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10:40 < luke-jr> shrug
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18:15 < ja> nickler: i am thinking of trying to get debian to upgrade their secp256k1 version: https://sources.debian.org/src/libsecp256k1/ i was thinking of maybe mentioning some security improvements to speed up the process. according to the benchmarks by gmaxwell it looks like it is now much faster on ARM, is that right? are there other improvements i could be mentioning in my request?
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18:18 < ja> also, which ABI changes have there been? secp256k1 is built without ECDH on debian. i assume there have been backwards-incompatible ABI changes since 2017 outside experimental modules?
18:18 < ja> if that is right, only experimental would be able to upgrade, but that would be something, since it is on a version from 2019-03-31
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18:19 < ja> ah you can reply in #secp256k1 if you like
18:25 < luke-jr> ja: only in 2018 IIRC
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18:26 < luke-jr> at the latest, it didn't change after 2018-10-18 iirc
18:27 < luke-jr> newest libsecp256k1 made ECDH non-experimental too
18:27 < luke-jr> (as of like 10 days ago)
18:29 < sipa> ja: probably better to wait until we have an actual release
18:30 < ja> sipa: ok, i'll be watching the 1.0 milestone, thanks
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18:33 < ja> luke-jr: ok, since it changed in 2018, that still means that buster,bullseye,sid,stretch cannot upgrade to the latest commit since it wouldn't be ABI compatible. so they will just be left on their versions from 2016 and 2017
18:33 < ja> i guess there weren't any really bad problems anyway, so it isn't so bad?
18:33 < luke-jr> ja: well, if they didn't build ECDH, then it doesn't affect them…
18:34 < luke-jr> ja: non-ECDH may have changed since then too - I didn't look at those
18:34 < ja> ah, i thought you talked about a different change
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