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04:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20339: ci: Run macos ci config on cirrus (master...2011-moreCirrus) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20339
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10:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanliao1989 opened pull request #20343: Update README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20343
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10:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #20343: Update README.md (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20343
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11:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #20344: wallet: fix scanning progress calculation for single block range (master...20201108-wallet-avoid_div_by_zero_on_single_block_rescan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20344
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11:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] SatoshiBitcoin opened pull request #20345: Update README.md (master...Version1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20345
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11:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] SatoshiBitcoin closed pull request #20345: Update README.md (master...Version1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20345
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12:21 < andytoshi> achow101: i think there is a bug in CreateTransaction related to bnb .. can you sanity check me before i file a bug
12:21 < achow101> andytoshi: what's the bug?
12:21 < andytoshi> one sec, typing
12:22 < andytoshi> the problem is that when we create txNew for the purpose of getting a tx size to estimate the fee required, in this line https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L2940 we selectively add a change output based on whether bnb was used by SelectCoins
12:22 < andytoshi> so far so good
12:23 < andytoshi> but .. if we use bnb, but we don't get enough fees, and we have subtractfeefromeamount on, we hit this line https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L3038
12:23 < andytoshi> which says "SelectCoins succeeded, we didn't hit the fee we needed, but that's fine, we can increase the fee by subtracting from outputs. turn off pick_new_inputs and loop again"
12:24 < andytoshi> but then, when we do the next loop iteration, we skip SelectCoins and just set bnb_used to false https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L2928
12:25 < andytoshi> which means that when we recalculate nFeeRequired, we'll get a higher number than we did before. we set nFeeRet to nFeeRequired at the end of the previous iteration. so now this check will fail https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L2984
12:25 < andytoshi> ..and the whole loop will fail, because we say "well, we didn't hit our fee target, and pick_new_inputs was off, so we must be screwed"
12:26 < andytoshi> but actually the problem is just that we didn't compute nFeeRequired consistently from one iteration to the next
12:26 < andytoshi> (end of description)
12:26 < achow101> how is bnb used but not enough fees?
12:26 < luke-jr> ARGH, google has decided "dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org" has deceptive content is now blacklisting all of dashjr.org -.-
12:26 < achow101> with subtractfeefromamount, unless the amount is less than the fees?
12:27 < andytoshi> lemme take a look
12:27 < luke-jr> sipa: bluematt: cdecker: jonasschnelli: petertodd: sjors: emzy: this will probably hit you soon too
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12:31 < jonatack> luke-jr: confirmed
12:31 < jonatack> "Deceptive site ahead. Firefox blocked this page because it may trick you into doing something dangerous like installing software or revealing personal information like passwords or credit cards. Advisory provided by Google Safe Browsing."
12:31 < emzy> luke-jr: benause of the dnsseed. It has nothing to do with http...
12:32 < emzy> https://dashjr.org/ works vor me in Firefox.
12:33 < jonatack> dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org has been reported as a deceptive site. You can report a detection problem -> I filed an report
12:33 < achow101> andytoshi: regardless, i'm trying to get at least the effective value pr for the next release so there won't be any such bug as the loop is removed
12:36 < emzy> luke-jr: you are sure that they will blacklist all of dashjr.org? I think the http(s) blacklist of dnsseed.bitcoin.dashjr.org is right. 
12:36 < achow101> luke-jr: is the warning part of chrome or is it some dns thing?
12:36 < achow101> or something else?
12:37 < jonasschnelli> My DNS seed runs no http site (I guess).
12:37 < andytoshi> achow101: cool, thanks
12:37 < jonasschnelli> Or does it even matter what runs on the seed machine?
12:37 < andytoshi> though there's maybe an 80% chance this is actually some elements weirdness related to how we account for change in coin selection
12:38 < emzy> jonasschnelli: the A records you deliver are not your IP addresses anyways.
12:40 < emzy> As long as only the whole domain is blacklisted for browsing it is totaly fine.
12:42 < emzy> I would argue it is right to do it. Because it could lead to a malicious site.
12:45 < andytoshi> achow101: oh i think my issue may have been resolved in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17458 
12:45 < andytoshi> certainly the logic before that PR is way harder to understand
12:46 < luke-jr> jonatack: well, the dnsseed domain probably should get flagged - the problem is they're extending it to my entire domain :/
12:47 < luke-jr> achow101: I assume it's part of Google's existing censorship framework
12:47 < luke-jr> jonasschnelli: it points at random IPs, which may be running malicious webservers..
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12:59 < jonasschnelli> Yes. That. But it has always been that way.
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13:37 < andytoshi> achow101: i think i'm right, this is a core thing not an elements thing ... https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/7e373294a5ae819099c39d9d03d1f5a311d63cfc/src/wallet/wallet.cpp#L3016-L3019 this comment says "nFeeNeeded should not have changed"
13:37 < andytoshi> 20:26 < achow101> how is bnb used but not enough fees?
13:37 < andytoshi> what's happening here is that bnb is used and it gives us -some- fees, but if we're subtracting fees from outputs it doesn't bother trying to give us enough
13:38 < achow101> I suppose bnb assumes that the output is enough to cover the fees
13:38 < achow101> but that may not be the case
13:38 < andytoshi> the logic is that we'll fail the nFeesRet >= nFeesNeeded check, but then we'll go around the loop again
13:38 < andytoshi> it is the case
13:38 < andytoshi> but the code is still wrong
13:39 < andytoshi> in my code the output is more than enough to cover the fees, the problem is that we don't subtract enough (or rather, we subtract enough but then incorrectly think we should've subtracted more)
13:39 < achow101> do you have a particular test case I can try?
13:39 < andytoshi> sorta, i can give you an elements functional test from before #17458
13:39 < gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17458 | Refactor OutputGroup effective value calculations and filtering to occur within the struct by achow101 · Pull Request #17458 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:39 < andytoshi> let me try to extract a bitcoin example
13:40 < andytoshi> because i'm pretty confident that the issue has nothingh to do with elements
13:42 < achow101> Are you hitting the "Transaction fee and change calculation failed" error?
13:42 < andytoshi> yep
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13:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] tylerchambers opened pull request #20346: script: modify security-check.py to use "==" instead of "is" for literal comparison (master...literal-comparison-update) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20346
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13:43 < andytoshi> i think, if you have a wallet where bnb can solve exactly (say you have two 10btc inputs and want a 20btc output) and you put subtractfeesfromoutput on, you'll trigger this
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13:51 < achow101> andytoshi: just tried, and nope
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13:54 < andytoshi> hmmmm, i don't understand. i'll have to run it myself with a pile of logging added
13:55 < andytoshi> can you push a diff somewhere to add a test case?
13:55 < andytoshi> since you have one
14:01 < andytoshi> can i get log output from unit tests?
14:01 < achow101> unit tests make a dir in /tmp that should have logs
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14:20 < achow101> andytoshi: https://github.com/achow101/bitcoin/commit/2c08a27ea062e4247b3f53bcd296429a4ca9b4a3
14:29 < andytoshi> thanks!
14:29 < andytoshi> i almost have a unit test, i am just trying to set a non-zero feerate without segfaulting..
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16:49 < andytoshi> achow101: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20347 i'm not crazy :P
16:49 < andytoshi> lol what a waste of a sunday
16:50 < sipa> sounds like a very useful sunday
16:53 < andytoshi> hehe, i did actually learn a lot about core
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17:02 < achow101> I think you've run into why everyone is afraid of changing coin selection. the logic is too hard to follow
17:03 < sipa> it's probably a good reason to justify changes
17:03 < sipa> the existing logic is a painful mess, but at least my impression was that it was very unlikely to actually fuck up
17:04 < andytoshi> i mean, this is a real corner case, achow and i weren't sure if we could make it trigger without simulating weird fee behavior, and even then
17:05 < andytoshi> what's surprising is that it is a "coin selection" bug which is entirely outside of SelectCoins, it's the retry-loop in CreateTransaction
17:06 < achow101> unfortunately CreateTransaction is considered part of coin selection behavior because of the loop
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21:33 < fanquake> wumpus / sipa: may just want to block kengendron251
21:42 < sipa> fanquake: going to wait
21:42 < sipa> his last message made it sound like a mistake
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