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00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2e1336dbfe8a...817aeca57a4c
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 830ddf4 Hennadii Stepanov: Drop noop gcc version checks
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 817aeca fanquake: Merge #20491: refactor: Drop noop gcc version checks
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00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20491: refactor: Drop noop gcc version checks (master...201125-gcc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20491
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01:09 < willcl_ark> luke-jr: I've been trying out ripgrep recently. It can handle multiple directories and seems to be pretty fast.  e.g.  `rg CTxDestination bitcoin*` will search all directories in current dir starting with bitcoin.
01:14 < willcl_ark> There's also an interesting writeup of a 'speedtest' here FYI https://blog.burntsushi.net/ripgrep/
01:14 < sipa> i've never had a situation where "git grep" in the bitcoin repo wasn't fast enough
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01:32 < willcl_ark> Agreed. I imagined Luke might be trying to grep bitcoin and bitcoin-gui repos at the same time, and using some small script to bolt together two git searches? Not familiar with git-grep-all tbh :)
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06:21 < luke-jr> willcl_ark: git-grep-all searches all objects in the repo
06:21 < luke-jr> sipa: ^
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06:42 < willcl_ark> Ah I see luke-jr, thanks. Then ripgrep will not be able to help you as it can't search all repo objects.
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06:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/817aeca57a4c...81d5af42f4db
06:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4848e71 practicalswift: scripted-diff: Use [[nodiscard]] (C++17) instead of NODISCARD
06:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 79bff8e practicalswift: Remove NODISCARD
06:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 81d5af4 MarcoFalke: Merge #20499: Remove obsolete NODISCARD ifdef forest. Use [[nodiscard]] (C...
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06:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20499: Remove obsolete NODISCARD ifdef forest. Use [[nodiscard]] (C++17).  (master...remove-nodiscard-cruft) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20499
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08:20 < hebasto> sipa: does your ip address crawler see tor v3 addresses in the main network due to rc2 has been published last week?
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09:23 < sipa> hebasto: no
09:23 < sipa> hebasto: PRs welcome
09:24 < hebasto> sipa: thanks
09:26 < sipa> oh wait
09:26 < sipa> it can't even expose them over DNS
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09:27 < hebasto> DNS restrictions?
09:29 < sipa> well there is no space for onion addresses in IPv6
09:29 < sipa> *v3
09:30 < luke-jr> TXT?
09:34 < luke-jr> SRV might be a good fit actually
09:35 < luke-jr> or URI record
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09:36 < pinheadmz> lightning uses SRV in bolt 10: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/10-dns-bootstrap.md#examples
09:36 < pinheadmz> pretty clever
09:40 < sipa> can standard resolvers query SRV records?
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09:44 < pinheadmz> what do you mean? the rfc is 20 years old, i think if the nameserver has an SRV record you can dig it
09:44 < pinheadmz> trying to find a live example
09:45 < pinheadmz> actually the exmple in bolt 10 works
09:45 < pinheadmz>  dig lseed.bitcoinstats.com SRV
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09:47 < sipa> pinheadmz: i mean, you can't just use getaddrinfo to retrieve it, can you?
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09:47 < sipa> you actually need a DNS client library 
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09:50 < pinheadmz> ah i see
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10:02 < luke-jr> well, presuambly we're not using getaddrinfo with Tor
10:02 < luke-jr> so the real question is if Tor can do it ;)
10:04 < sipa> we don't use DNS at all over Tor
10:05 < luke-jr> …wasn't that the topic?
10:06 < sipa> instead we use getaddr peers (just connect by name to a DNS seed, using the P2P protocol, do a getaddr, and wait for an addr response)
10:06 < sipa> luke-jr: what currently works for torv2 but not torv3 is learning about them over IPv4/IPv6 from seed nodes
10:09 < sipa> but maybe that's not all that important a use case
10:10 < pinheadmz> sipa when we use DNS seeds, we don't make a DNS request to the seed?
10:10 < sipa> pinheadmz: no, we *resolve* the seed
10:10 < sipa> and it resolves to one or more IP addresses
10:11 < pinheadmz> ah, TIL so there is no `dig bitcoin.sipa.de` or whatever. I always thought we use A records from the seed to bootstrap
10:11 < sipa> doing so likely makes your OS's/ISP's resolver connect to the DNS seed server, but that's transparent from bitcoin core's perspective
10:11 < sipa> all it sees is looking up a name, and getting IP addresses back, using your OS's name resolving functionality
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10:14 < pinheadmz> actually im not getting anything from seed.bitcoin.sipa.be but I am from `dig dnsseed.bluematt.me`
10:15 < pinheadmz> so when we bootstrap we use DNS to get a bunch of A records, then add those IPs to addrman and start connecting
10:15 < sipa> yeah
10:15 < sipa> but from bitcoin core's perspective there is no such thing as A or AAAA or CNAME or whatever records or DNS involved
10:16 < pinheadmz> yeah
10:16 < sipa> it asks for a name, and get IPv4 and IPv6 addresses back from the OS
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10:16 < sipa> they could be coming from your local /etc/hosts file instead
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10:18 < pinheadmz> but over tor we connect directly to the "seed" and do a getaddr
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10:19 < sipa> yes, because you can't do DNS resolving over Tor (that'd require a DNS implementation in bitcoin core, and route it over tor)
10:20 < sipa> instead we just "connect" to the seed, which makes the Tor exit node do the resolving - *not* tell us the result of that resolving - but instead forwarding our connection to it
10:21 < pinheadmz> oh I see, so it still may not be the full node at bitcoin.sipa.be that we conenct to, but any one of the nodes returned in A records to the exit node, which thinks we are just resolving a single service by name
10:21 < sipa> seed.bitcoin.sipa.be may not even *have* a full node
10:21 < pinheadmz> gotcha 
10:22 < sipa> or maybe it's more accurate to say it "has" many full nodes, namely all the IPs it resolves to
10:22 < sipa> but none of them are particularly likely to be operated by the operator of the DNS seed itself
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11:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20535: test: Fix intermittent feature_taproot issue (master...2011-testTapInt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20535
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11:57 < phantomcircuit> sipa, because they don't fit in ipv6 records i don't think there's anyway to return them that will be cached by intermediate servers, which is probably what really matters
11:58 < phantomcircuit> otherwise could just use the bootstrap peer mechanism
12:00 < sipa> phantomcircuit: right
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13:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #20536: wallet: Error with "Transaction too large" if the funded tx will end up being too large after signing (master...fundtx-error-large-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20536
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16:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #20537: refactor: replace manual Satoshis-to-BTC conversions with FormatMoney() (master...20201129-use-formatmoney) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20537
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18:10 < andytoshi> holy shit the taproot python tests are extensive
18:10 < sipa> :)
18:13 < luke-jr> XD
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23:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/81d5af42f4db...ffd5e7a8567d
23:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9429a39 practicalswift: Handle rename failure in DumpMempool(...) by using RenameOver(...) return ...
23:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ce9dd45 practicalswift: Add [[nodiscard]] to RenameOver(...)
23:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ffd5e7a MarcoFalke: Merge #20519: Handle rename failure in DumpMempool(...) by using the Renam...
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23:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20519: Handle rename failure in DumpMempool(...) by using the RenameOver(...) return value. Add [[nodiscard]] to RenameOver(...). (master...renameover-nodiscard) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20519
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