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03:07 < hebasto> promag: it was useful (at least for me) when I was playing with wallet stuff
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04:19 < promag> hebasto: how so? what you used it for?
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05:49 < hebasto> promag: opening multiple copies of sqlite wallet
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08:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wodry opened pull request #20582: [doc] Fix documenation of options onlynet and listenonion (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20582
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08:47 < theStack> i'm just running my first gitian build. is there any reason why the use of Docker is not more encouraged (it's not even mentioned in gitian-building.md)? are there potential problems/drawbacks? setting up an extra VM seems to be massive overkill for this task 
08:48 < luke-jr> Docker would be the extra ;)
08:51 < theStack> installing docker to the distro of your choice and simply passing "--docker" to the gitian build script (if it's not that easy i may missed somethig :)) seems less of an effort to me than to setting up a virtual machine
08:52 < luke-jr> just wait until you see the macOS hoops
08:53 < theStack> grated, i was focussing on linux here
08:53 < theStack> *granted
08:54 < hebasto> theStack: conventional lxc works fine with less overhead
08:54 < jonatack> theStack: docker is used in this guide https://github.com/jonatack/bitcoin-development/blob/master/gitian-building.md
08:55 < jonatack> at least a dozen people have followed it for their first gitian builds 
08:56 < jonatack> hebasto: yes. you and achow are generally the fastest builders :)
08:56 < hebasto> :D
08:57 < hebasto> jonatack: your guide is must-read for novices
08:59 < jonatack> hebasto: thanks :) it's based on fanquake's guide, maybe my first-time point of view helped
08:59 < jonatack> theStack: good to see you building too +1
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09:01 < achow101> theStack: docker is less documented because it is much much newer than the other methods
09:01 < theStack> hebasto: okay good to know, haven't looked into lxc (and how it differs from docker) much yet
09:01 < theStack> jonatack: huge thanks, this guide seems to be exactly what i was looking for!
09:01 < achow101> the only reason it exists is because lxc stopped working for me at some point so I added it to gitian
09:02 < hebasto> theStack: for ubuntu&lxc host don't hesitate to look at my notes https://gist.github.com/hebasto/e0b4f5bb948174353e10989b24b6a82c
09:03 < hebasto> yet not updated with the latest macOS stuff
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10:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f35e4d906fee...9385549a31e7
10:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 12dcdaa practicalswift: Don't make "in" parameters look like "out"/"in-out" parameters: pass by re...
10:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9385549 MarcoFalke: Merge #20581: Don't make "in" parameters look like "out"/"in-out" paramete...
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10:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #20581: Don't make "in" parameters look like "out"/"in-out" parameters: pass by ref to const instead of ref to non-const (master...const-ref-parameters) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20581
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10:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9385549a31e7...64156ad4d1f5
10:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa135a1 MarcoFalke: Revert "test: Add missing sync_all to wallet_balance test"
10:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa6af31 MarcoFalke: test: Document why syncwithvalidationinterfacequeue is needed in tests
10:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64156ad MarcoFalke: Merge #19893: test: Remove or explain syncwithvalidationinterfacequeue
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10:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #19893: test: Remove or explain syncwithvalidationinterfacequeue (master...2009-testSync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/19893
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10:20 < luke-jr> does anyone have a crawler that handles Tor?
10:22 < sipa> luke-jr: my dns seeder does, but oniy torv2
10:22 < luke-jr> oh! I didn't realise that
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10:41 < hebasto> smth that I don't understand https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/issues/1661#issuecomment-739544168
10:47 < phantomcircuit> there's no reason to drop peers sending you commands you don't understand
10:48 < phantomcircuit> it's literally not a DoS
10:48 < sipa> you could argue it is one if there were no other way to waste nodes' bandwidth
10:49 < sipa> given that that is (a) trivial and (b) solutions for that (e.g. deprioritizing peers that send too much) aren't orthogonal to permitting unknown messages or not, it isn't
10:50 < phantomcircuit> sipa, no matter what you do i can always waste your inbound bandwidth
10:50 < phantomcircuit> there's just no way to prevent that
10:51 < luke-jr> pls dont udp flood me phantomcircuit
10:52 < phantomcircuit> what luke-jr said
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10:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #20583: rpc: Add missing BlockUntilSyncedToCurrentChain to wallet RPCs (master...2012-walletSync) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20583
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10:55 < sipa> phantomcircuit: well there are CPU costs involved with handling messages you're ignoring (making its way to the network stack into process, checksum computation, ...) that just spamming UDP messages doesn't have
10:55 < sipa> my point is those costs are negligable compared to say spamming with ping or tx messages
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11:05 < phantomcircuit> sipa, sure, but the worst thing you can do is cause the cpu to spin doing nonsense for a brief instant, in between doing real work
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11:06 < sipa> phantomcircuit: i'm not saying you're wrong - i obviously agree that there is no harm in just ignoring unknown messages
11:06 < sipa> but i think it needs a slightly more nuanced explanation than "literally not a DoS"
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11:08 < phantomcircuit> the amount of cpu time used is roughly on par with the cpu time used to resolve udp packet fragmentation
11:08 < sipa> yes, that sort of expalanation :)
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11:11 < phantomcircuit> sipa, it's certainly less of a DoS than just spamming someone with ip fragments
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11:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] practicalswift opened pull request #20584: Don't declare de facto const member functions as non-const. Don't declare de facto const reference variables as non-const. (master...const-member-fn-and-const-ref-var) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20584
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13:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #20571: refactor: Use deduction guide for std::array<uint8_t, N> (master...201204-u8) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20571
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14:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #20586: Fix Windows build with --enable-werror (master...201206-win) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20586
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18:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/64156ad4d1f5...cef2efafcecc
18:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb0b712 Sebastian Falbesoner: doc: libbitcoinconsensus: add missing error code description, fix NBitcoin...
18:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cef2efa fanquake: Merge #20577: doc: libconsensus: add missing error code description, fix N...
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18:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20577: doc: libconsensus: add missing error code description, fix NBitcoin link (master...201212-doc-libbitcoinconsensus-fixes) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20577
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20:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wodry opened pull request #20587: [doc] Tidy up Tor doc (more stringent) (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20587
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23:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cef2efafcecc...d0ca394596cf
23:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5bab08d Wladimir J. van der Laan: contrib: Add test for ELF symbol-check
23:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ed1bbce fanquake: contrib: add MACHO tests to symbol-check tests
23:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d0ca394 fanquake: Merge #20476: contrib: Add test for ELF symbol-check
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23:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #20476: contrib: Add test for ELF symbol-check (master...2020_11_test_symbol_check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20476
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