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17:39 -!- dhruvm [~dhruv@165.227.49.220] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:40 < sipa> the next release of Bitcoin Core will be 22.0 17:40 < sipa> (this isn't some major milestone or whatever, just recognizing that our numbering practices have become inconsistent with reality, so the 0. is dropped) 17:40 < CrazyPython> sipa: ah 17:41 < sipa> bitcoin itself doesn't have a version number 17:41 < CrazyPython> If Bitcoin were on semver, then 0.x would mean Bitcoin is prone to backwards-incompatible changes 17:42 < CrazyPython> sipa: .. could be a numbering system for bitcoin 17:42 -!- dhruvm [~dhruv@165.227.49.220] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:43 < CrazyPython> sipa: What about block versions? 17:43 < sipa> but what does it entail? just the consensus rules? those don't have patch levels, and softforks aren't necessarily a linear progression 17:43 < sipa> there are also protocol versions for p2p 17:44 < sipa> and block and tx version numbers 17:45 < CrazyPython> sipa: Yes, consensus rules 17:45 < CrazyPython> Has Bitcoin Core ever done an intended hard fork? 17:45 < sipa> not since it has had that name 17:46 < sipa> there were some in very early satoshi days 17:46 < sipa> https://blog.bitmex.com/bitcoins-consensus-forks/ 17:47 < sipa> in any case, this channel is about bitcoin core really 17:47 < CrazyPython> Are there any upcoming plans for optimizing Bitcoin? (Other than Taproot, Schnorr) 17:50 < sipa> there are lots of improvements being worked on by various people, some related to consensus rules, but far more things in p2p improvements (mostly in bitcoin core), generic software improvements in various software, other software stack built on top, ... 17:51 < sipa> there isn't one grand roadmap because there isn't anyone that could decide one 17:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:57 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6981:7880::3] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:58 < luke-jr> CrazyPython: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Consensus_versions might be useful 17:58 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:00 < CrazyPython> Thanks for the information 18:02 < CrazyPython> Is Bitcoin Core's block verification code highly optimized? 18:02 -!- pox [~pox@gateway/tor-sasl/pox] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:03 -!- pox [~pox@gateway/tor-sasl/pox] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:04 < sipa> there are certainly improvements possible always, but it'd say it's fairly optimized 18:06 < CrazyPython> How many of the Bitcoin developers have churned? Anyone still around from the Satoshi days? 18:08 < sipa> if you're going to ask more of these questions, it may be better to ask on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com; it's more generic than just bitcoin core, and has lots of people answering 18:08 < CrazyPython> I understand. Apologies. 18:09 < sipa> i don't think anyone is still active that actually collaborated with satoshi, though there are a bunch of people still who were active in end 2010 etc 18:10 < sipa> (of course, pseudonyms makes that difficult to be sure about) 18:15 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@159.2.165.130] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 18:19 -!- EagleTM [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:20 -!- Eagle[TM] [~EagleTM@unaffiliated/eagletm] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:22 -!- ctrlbreak [~ctrlbreak@159.2.165.130] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:28 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:29 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-167-163-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 18:29 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@static-167-163-230-77.ipcom.comunitel.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:31 -!- CrazyPython [~crazypyth@98.122.164.118] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:02 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:03 -!- TheHoliestRoger_ is now known as TheHoliestRoger 19:08 -!- braydonf [~braydon@gateway/tor-sasl/braydonf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:18 -!- braydonf [~braydon@gateway/tor-sasl/braydonf] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:31 -!- GarouDan [~GarouDan@191.242.119.219.fibra.plimtelecom.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:31 -!- GarouDan [~GarouDan@191.242.119.219.fibra.plimtelecom.com.br] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:32 -!- GarouDan [~GarouDan@191.242.119.219.fibra.plimtelecom.com.br] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:00 -!- OP_NOP [OP_NOP@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/opnop/x-41418994] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:04 -!- owowo [~ovovo@91.193.4.36] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:04 -!- owowo [~ovovo@91.193.4.36] has quit [Changing host] 20:04 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:05 -!- ovovo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:08 -!- owowo [~ovovo@unaffiliated/ovovo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:02 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:02 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:21 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:22 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:32 -!- ironhelix [~d@unaffiliated/ironhelix] has quit [] 21:32 -!- GarouDan [~GarouDan@191.242.119.219.fibra.plimtelecom.com.br] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:37 -!- GarouDan [~GarouDan@191.242.119.219.fibra.plimtelecom.com.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:38 -!- rny [~rny@gateway/tor-sasl/renlord] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:39 -!- rny [~rny@gateway/tor-sasl/renlord] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:41 -!- rny [~rny@gateway/tor-sasl/renlord] has quit [Disconnected by services] 21:42 -!- _rny [~rny@gateway/tor-sasl/renlord] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:43 -!- _rny is now known as rny 21:46 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:17 -!- resolve [~resolve@185.204.1.185] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:58 -!- braydonf [~braydon@gateway/tor-sasl/braydonf] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:59 -!- braydonf [~braydon@gateway/tor-sasl/braydonf] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:06 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-82-51-124-147.retail.telecomitalia.it] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:22 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-82-51-124-147.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:26 -!- d [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 23:27 -!- d is now known as Guest79838 23:29 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:29 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev --- Log closed Sun Apr 25 00:00:36 2021