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00:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8f76f9f61334...24fb69dca4f7
00:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fbeb8c4 fanquake: test: add type annotations to util.get_rpc_proxy
00:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 24fb69d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22139: test: add type annotations to util.get_rpc_pr...
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00:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22139: test: add type annotations to util.get_rpc_proxy (master...type_annotations_get_rpc_proxy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22139
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01:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22580: [0.21] Backport: Reset scantxoutset progress before inferring descriptors (0.21...backport_19362) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22580
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01:42 < jonatack> fanquake: we'd discussed updating the I2P hardcoded seeds just before -final, are we getting close?
01:48 < fanquake> jonatack: To 22.0-final? No not yet. rc1 was mostly dead in the water due to some Guix kinks.
01:48 < fanquake> We'll get an rc2 out soon after #22534 and then hopefully some people actually testing it.
01:48 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22534 | [22.x] rc2 backports by fanquake · Pull Request #22534 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
01:48 < jonatack> fanquake: cool, thanks
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02:54 < jnewbery> luke-jr: I think the fix is to remove the std::move from the initializer list for the type and fallback arguments. They're both enum classes and will have underlying fundamental types that don't have move semantics. The m_type{std::move(type)} just copies type into m_type
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04:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/24fb69dca4f7...19434fa22aad
04:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f8f772d Antoine Poinsot: macdeploy: alternative info to download the macOS SDK
04:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 19434fa fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22516: macdeploy: alternative info to download the m...
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04:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22516: macdeploy: alternative info to download the macOS SDK (master...nit_guix_doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22516
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05:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/19434fa22aad...d23570098cd1
05:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e4c8bb6 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4
05:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d235700 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21882: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4
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05:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #21882: build: Fix undefined reference to __mulodi4 (master...210507-fuzz32) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21882
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06:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ritickgoenka opened pull request #22582: test: a test to check descendant limits (master...test_descendant_limit_bushy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22582
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08:01 < laanwj> jonatack: i'm not sure updating anything prior to -final is a good idea; this means there is a code change (well, data structure change) that is not tested in a rc
08:01 < laanwj> jonatack: for the same reason we don't do a translations update after the last rc and before final
08:02 < laanwj> jonatack: the only exception are the release notes and potentially other documents not included in the code; so if we want to do another I2P hardcoded seeds update, we sould just do it in a rc
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08:33 < luke-jr> possibly bumping the UniValue version requirement, assuming jgarzik gets his end done in time? :x
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08:59 < jonatack> laanwj: thanks -- makes sense
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09:33 < bitcoin-git> [gui] psancheti110 opened pull request #390: [WIP] Add SubFeeFromAmount to options  (master...i386_0729) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/390
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09:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22584: test: Add temporary sanitizer suppression implicit-signed-integer-truncation:netaddress.cpp (master...2107-testSupp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22584
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10:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] agroce opened pull request #22585: fuzz: add guide to fuzzing with Eclipser v1.x (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22585
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12:01 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:01 < core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jul 29 19:01:06 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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12:01 < hebasto> hi
12:01 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
12:01 < laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
12:01 < gene> hi
12:01 < gleb> hi
12:01 < sipa> hi
12:01 < achow101> hi
12:01 < kanzure> hi
12:01 < kvaciral[m]> hi
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12:02 < laanwj> welcome to the weekly bitcoin-core-dev meeting, no pre-proposed meetings for today
12:02 < jonatack> hi
12:02 < laanwj> topics*
12:03 < laanwj> any last minute topics?
12:03 < gleb> I have one
12:03 < ariard> hi
12:03 < ariard> quick coredev updates
12:03 < gleb> "Acceptable transaction relay latency"
12:03 < laanwj> 22.0rc1 ran into guix build problems, we'll be doing a rc2 soon
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12:04 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
12:04 < core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
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12:04 < laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8   8 PRs currently tagged as blockers
12:05 < laanwj> is there anything to add, remove or that is (almost) ready for merge?
12:07 < laanwj> seems not!
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12:07 < laanwj> then let's move to the next topic
12:07 < laanwj> #topic Acceptable transaction relay latency (gleb)
12:07 < core-meetingbot> topic: Acceptable transaction relay latency (gleb)
12:08 < sipa> gleb: ?
12:08 < gleb> Yeah so after a slight protocol update to Erlay we discussed here at some point, it becomes apparent how sacrificing some latency allows to save bandwidth. The trade-off is somewhat non-trivial...
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12:09 < gleb> My estimates show a transaction takes 4-5 seconds to relay across 95% of the nodes
12:09 < sipa> right now?
12:09 < gleb> Yes
12:10 < gleb> What if we increased it to 10 seconds? How we should even think about these numbers
12:10 < sipa> is that a measurement of the network, or something you conclude from simulating something like the current network?
12:10 < gleb> For a good reason, of course.
12:10 < gleb> simulating, but also I saw someone confirming this independently from me.
12:11 < sipa> i think that anything that is "small" compared to the interblock time is fine, but perhaps this is more something to discuss on the ML?
12:12 < gleb> sipa: hm, good point, maybe ML or slow-communication github issue is a better venue.
12:12 < gleb> Also, I hear your point about interblock time.
12:12 < gleb> For now just getting quick feedback.
12:13 < gleb> Okay, I guess no other opinions for now :) Let's move on then.
12:13 < sipa> can also be discussed on the PR i guess
12:14 < gleb> It becomes unreadable :(
12:14 < sipa> yeah...
12:14 < gleb> I already feel somewhat bad for having 100 resolved comments there
12:14 < jonatack> maybe a dedicated issue
12:14 < laanwj> right just make a new issue
12:14 < gleb> yeah gonna do that.
12:15 < laanwj> github's lack of a threading structure makes that necessary
12:15 < laanwj> #topic Coredev updates (ariard)
12:15 < core-meetingbot> topic: Coredev updates (ariard)
12:15 < ariard> hi
12:15 < ariard> so restrictions in france aren't improving, we're discussing with others orgas to move in another country
12:16 < ariard> top candidate for now is switzerland
12:16 < ariard> dates will stay the same
12:16 < ariard> they do have a nice tool to check the conditions of entries here, like which vaccins are accepted, which countries :https://travelcheck.admin.ch/home
12:17 < jonatack> restrictions certainly are a moving target
12:17 < jarolrod> iceland?
12:17 < jarolrod> although i believe they have restrictions against eastern block countries
12:17 < ariard> jarolrod: note, there is a visa issue, we do have attendees coming from asia/non-first class countries
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12:18 < ariard> switzerland is okay for uk/usa/eu, i'm still checking for the other cases
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12:18 < ariard> and the good thing it will be easier to accesss for our american friends :)
12:18 < jarolrod> ah yes. Very complicated. Thank you to those coordinating and doing the work :)
12:18 < ariard> so we'll take a decision before august 23rd (or 3 meeting from now)
12:19 < jonatack> (i recently recalled that i know the owner of an amazing chateau here and it would have been pretty amazing to do it there...maybe next time)
12:19 < ariard> meanwhile, gonna send a mail for topics collection/signal group in the coming weeks
12:20 < ariard> stats levels, we do have 33 yes so far, and sponsoring for travel subsidies should be okay
12:20 < ariard> voila, if you have nay question feel free to reach jonatack or schmidty or me, staying available
12:20 < ariard> *any
12:20 < jarolrod> thanks for the update!
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12:21 < laanwj> yes, thanks for the update, and for sticking with it, it's definitely not easy this time
12:21 < sipa> one day we will meet again! in person!
12:21 < laanwj> yess
12:22 < laanwj> any other topics for today?
12:23 < laanwj> #endmeeting
12:23 < core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
12:23 < core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jul 29 19:23:03 2021 UTC.  
12:23 < core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-07-29-19.01.moin.txt
12:23 < hebasto> laanwj: did you see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22536#issuecomment-887882522?
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12:23 < laanwj> hebasto: yes
12:24 < laanwj> hebasto: they just deleted the entire german translation?!?
12:24 < hebasto> all translated strings are English now
12:25 < hebasto> so, effectively, translation removed
12:25 < laanwj> we can just upload back the previous file right
12:25 < laanwj> and kick that person out (i guess)
12:26 < laanwj> it would be good to have review teams for more languages to prevent this kind of nonsense from happening
12:27 < hebasto> in repo we have a TS file, and it should be an XLIFF to upload
12:27 < hebasto> have you any contacts to German translation ppl?
12:27 < laanwj> don't tell me the download script deletes the xliff source data
12:28 < hebasto> it does
12:28 < laanwj> no, i don't, i don't have contact with any of the translators
12:29 < laanwj> is it possible to convert the ts back to xliff
12:29 < hebasto> yes, I'll try to sort it out
12:29 < laanwj> it's too bad that transifex itself doesn't have a revert feature
12:29 < laanwj> we can't be the only project having to cope with vandalism
12:30 < hebasto> could it be a fatal error of newbie translator?
12:30 < laanwj> i guess
12:30 < laanwj> they do make it really easy to mess things up
12:31 < laanwj> e.g. everyone can upload a whole new translation file, not just admins
12:31 < laanwj> too trustful for this world
12:32 < hebasto> I thought it is a configurable feature, no?
12:32 < laanwj> I don't think so (but maybe that changed)
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12:42 < bitcoin-git> [gui] ShaMan239 opened pull request #391: qt: Add cancel button to configuration options popup (master...cancel-conf) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/391
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15:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #22586: p2p, refactor: fix ubsan implicit conversion error in CSubNet::ToString() (master...fix-netaddress-implicit-signed-integer-truncation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22586
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19:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to 0.21: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/997e528a3418...52778f42452d
19:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 080b47d Pavol Rusnak: rpc: reset scantxoutset progress on finish
19:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/0.21 52778f4 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22580: [0.21] Backport: Reset scantxoutset progress ...
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19:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22580: [0.21] Backport: Reset scantxoutset progress before inferring descriptors (0.21...backport_19362) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22580
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20:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #22529: contrib/seeds: bump MIN_BLOCKS = 687249 & update (master...contrib-seeds-height-687249) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22529
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21:04 < fanquake> Could someone have a look at the backports in #22578? Would like to merge that to cleanup the CI issues we're seeing on the 0.21 branch.
21:04 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22578 | [0.21] Additional backports by fanquake · Pull Request #22578 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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23:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NikhilBartwal closed pull request #22565: [script] signet's getcoins.py improvements (master...update_signet_getcoins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22565
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23:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa86528 MarcoFalke: test: Add temporary sanitizer suppression implicit-signed-integer-truncati...
23:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9c9939c MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22584: test: Add temporary sanitizer suppression imp...
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23:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22584: test: Add temporary sanitizer suppression implicit-signed-integer-truncation:netaddress.cpp (master...2107-testSupp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22584
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23:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] NikhilBartwal reopened pull request #22565: [script] signet's getcoins.py improvements (master...update_signet_getcoins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22565
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