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00:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e9472e6828ab...dd981b5e840c
00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aa79c91 Amiti Uttarwar: [docs] Add release notes for #21528
00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9778b0f Amiti Uttarwar: [net_processing] Provide debug error if code assumptions change.
00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd981b5 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22618: [p2p] Small follow-ups to 21528
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00:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22618: [p2p] Small follow-ups to 21528 (master...2021-08-blackhole-followup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22618
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00:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dd981b5e840c...7d60f7ec6bbf
00:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faa670d MarcoFalke: test: Properly set BIP34 height in CreateNewBlock_validity unit test
00:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7d60f7e MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22277: test: Properly set BIP34 height in CreateNewB...
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00:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22277: test: Properly set BIP34 height in CreateNewBlock_validity unit test (master...2106-test34) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22277
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00:53 < MarcoFalke> fanquake: Yeah, must be GitHub's fault
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00:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22630: test: Add missing include (master...2108-testMissingInclude) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22630
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01:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7d60f7ec6bbf...c4b42aa4ffa1
01:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6666ec9 MarcoFalke: test: Add missing include
01:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c4b42aa fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22630: test: Add missing include
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01:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22630: test: Add missing include (master...2108-testMissingInclude) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22630
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01:02 < fanquake> MarcoFalke: gunna blame that merge conflict on GitHub too hey
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01:04 < MarcoFalke> fanquake: Nah. I should probably get DrahtBot to detect those
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02:15 < michaelfolkson> Is there a reason Issues are disabled on the BIPs repo? 
02:17 < michaelfolkson> A few people have commented that the Schnorr/Taproot BIPs are perhaps a little dense for implementers and could perhaps be better tailored for them (more info targeted towards to them)
02:17 < laanwj> yes--the bip editors don't handle issues, you have to address issues with BIPs with the individual authors or on the bitcoin mailing list
02:18 < michaelfolkson> Hmm ok, thanks. It does make it hard to do what I described above. I don't particularly want the BIP authors to have to look at it until it is agreed that it is a universally agreed improvement
02:19 < michaelfolkson> Tbh I'm a bit skeptical at trying to make changes to the BIPs but some people like the idea
02:19 < laanwj> i'm also sceptical as to what you propose; a BIP is a spec not an implementation guide
02:20 < laanwj> you could write an implementation guide as say, a blog post to make it easier for people to implement things, but it wouldn't replace the spec
02:20 < michaelfolkson> Right, I agree with that
02:22 < laanwj> or, a new "informative BIP"
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02:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #22631: doc: Add packages that provide Qt Wayland plugin for Linux (master...210805-wayland) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22631
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02:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #22479: p2p, doc: log DEBUG_ADDRMAN consistency checks, add developer notes info (master...debug-addrman) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22479
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03:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22632: test: Set regtest.BIP66Height = 102 to speed up tests (master...2108-regtestFasterBip66) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22632
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03:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c4b42aa4ffa1...f4328ebef52f
03:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5a1bef6 Zero-1729: test: refactor: remove binascii from test_framework
03:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f4328eb MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22619: test: refactor: use consistent bytes <-> hex-...
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03:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #22619: test: refactor: use consistent bytes <-> hex-string conversion in functional test framework (master...test-remove-binascii-in-test-framework) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22619
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04:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Zero-1729 opened pull request #22633: refactor: follow-ups to 22619 (master...follow-ups-to-22605) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22633
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04:41 < muhblockchain> is there a tool to convert dump from hidden rpc that dumps utxo to file into a human readable address,balance?  if not, would a concept be accepted possibly to make a human readable dump, or do we heavily discourage users from using such tools
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06:11 < laanwj> there's a PR for this feel free to help testing it #18689
06:11 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/18689 | rpc: allow dumptxoutset to dump human-readable data by pierreN · Pull Request #18689 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:16 < muhblockchain> feels like xmass
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06:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f4328ebef52f...d67330d11245
06:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6408b24 Vasil Dimov: fuzz: move init code to the CAddrManDeterministic constructor
06:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8765179 Vasil Dimov: fuzz: check that ser+unser produces the same AddrMan
06:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d67330d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#21129: fuzz: check that ser+unser produces the same ...
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06:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #21129: fuzz: check that ser+unser produces the same AddrMan (master...fuzz_addrman_serunser) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21129
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12:00 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:00 < core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Aug  5 19:00:22 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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12:00 < michaelfolkson> hi
12:00 < achow101> hi
12:01 < larryruane> hi
12:01 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
12:01 < laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
12:01 < jamesob> hi
12:01 < _aj_> hey
12:01 < jarolrod> Hi
12:01 < kvaciral[m]> hi
12:01 < laanwj> welcome to the weekly bitcoin-core-dev meeting
12:02 < laanwj> it looks like there are no pre-proposed topics (which you can propose any time during the week with #proposedmeetingtopic)
12:02 < luke-jr> hi
12:02 < sipa> hi
12:02 < laanwj> any last minute topic proposals?
12:03 < laanwj> the 22.0rc2 announcement went out today, hopefully we'll get some testing
12:03 < gene> hi
12:03 < jonatack> hi
12:03 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
12:03 < core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
12:04 < laanwj> 7 blockers in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8, no bugfixes, nothing chasing concept ACK
12:04 < laanwj> anything to add/remove/replace or that is ready for merge?
12:05 < hebasto> hi
12:05 < gene> maybe a dumb question, what is blocking on the issues? just a need for more review/testing?
12:05 < laanwj> gene: yes
12:05 < gene> s/issues/prs
12:06 < gene> laanwj: ok, thanks
12:06 < laanwj> it's high priority for review, so it needs more review, though manual testing can also be useful if you can test specific things not covered by the test suite
12:07 < laanwj> it's blocking in the sense that it blocks further work by the author (or someone else)
12:08 < gene> is it helpful to ask for the specific areas in the PRs that the author would like more review?
12:08 < gene> the few I've reviewed so far seem to have a lot of discussion already
12:09 < laanwj> that depends, it is probably better to ask out of band (say, on IRC) than in the PR itself
12:09 < michaelfolkson> I haven't seen much direction from PR authors on parts of the PR that need particular focus. Sometimes there is guidance on what could be tested, suggestions for new reviewers
12:10 < michaelfolkson> Perhaps for good reason. You don't want everyone just doing the same thinig
12:10 < laanwj> in general the idea is to review the entire code change not only specific areas, but if there are say, consensus changes, then those are the most important (but also tests, in the sense that they really test what they're supposed to check)
12:11 < laanwj> but in general the entire change is important, what you are best able to review are the parts that you understand best (or want to learn about)
12:12 < laanwj> anyhow, apparently there are no proposed changes to high priority for review, and no other topics, so we should probably close the meeting
12:12 < michaelfolkson> I have a quick topic
12:13 < jonatack> gene: maybe helpful if you haven't seen it https://jonatack.github.io/articles/how-to-review-pull-requests-in-bitcoin-core
12:13 < kanzure> i don't mean to discuss particular locations or times, but the travel plans are still not finalized right?
12:13 < michaelfolkson> In process of attempting to arrange a IRC meeting or two to discuss the BIP process and possible improvements to it. Kalle and Luke seem up for it
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12:14 < michaelfolkson> It has been a while since the BIP process was reviewed and amended and a few people have suggestions for editing it
12:14 < laanwj> #topic proposed IRC meeting about BIP process
12:14 < core-meetingbot> topic: proposed IRC meeting about BIP process
12:14 < gene> jonatack: thanks, will read
12:14 < michaelfolkson> Aiming for September probably (IRC channel to be worked out)
12:15 < sipa> michaelfolkson: please discuss this on the ML, of you haven't already
12:15 < michaelfolkson> BIP process wishlist with some people's thoughts here https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/wiki/BIP-Process-wishlist
12:15 < michaelfolkson> sipa: Right
12:15 < laanwj> kanzure: i think so, not sure if ariard is here he'll know best
12:15 < jamesob> kanzure laanwj: not finalized yet; close?
12:16 < jamesob> it's down to two locations, at any rate
12:17 < michaelfolkson> Will send to the ML once details are sorted
12:17 < laanwj> ok
12:18 < laanwj> any other topics?
12:18 < larryruane> Just want to mention that I'm available for review, please ping me, I'm on IRC 24x7, but I'm only able to spend about 20% time (have an 80% "real" other job)
12:18 < larryruane> I'll keep an eye on high priority for review list
12:18 < laanwj> larryruane: any specific area you're interested in reviewing?
12:19 < larryruane> utils (logging), performance, want to learn about P2P especially mempool
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12:20 < laanwj> re: mempool you might want to look at #21800 that one should be pretty close
12:20 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21800 | mempool/validation: mempool ancestor/descendant limits for packages by glozow · Pull Request #21800 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:20 < ajonas> Also want to mention that josibake created a testing guide for 22.0 to go along with #22634 and it's now posted on the dev-wiki.
12:20 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22634 | v22.0 testing · Issue #22634 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:20 < larryruane> 👍
12:20 < laanwj> ajonas: will add the link to the issue, thanks!
12:22 < laanwj> #endmeeting
12:22 < core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
12:22 < core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Aug  5 19:22:28 2021 UTC.  
12:22 < core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-08-05-19.00.moin.txt
12:23 < gene> thanks for the meeting and review tips all
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12:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob closed pull request #21620: ChainstateManager locking improvements (master...2021-04-cs-lock-improvements) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21620
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13:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #22640: Improve speed, memory efficiency with alternate hashmap (#2) (master...2019-08-robinhood) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22640
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13:24 < _aj_> jamesob: would be good to have the PR description describe the change (since that goes in the commit log), and have the commentary on reopening in a followup comment (imho, etc)
13:26 < _aj_> jamesob: might be good to recombine the data and get a memory-usage-vs-height graph
13:32 < jamesob> _aj_: thanks for the look. if we get to the point where we're close to merge, I'll edit the description - but I think that's probably a ways off
13:32 < jamesob> hm actually you're right, I'll just do it now
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14:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Shubhankar-Gambhir opened pull request #22641: Test : Added test for disabled wallet (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22641
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15:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #22642: release: Release with separate SHA256SUMS and sig files (master...2021-08-distribute-separate-asc-and-SHASUM) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22642
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16:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dongcarl opened pull request #22643: guix-verify: Non-zero exit code when anything fails (master...2021-08-guix-verify-exit-code) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22643
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17:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22644: Deprecate UPnP support, require 2.1 or later (master...miniupnpc_pkg_config) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22644
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18:10 < ariard> kanzure: yes we're finalizing travel plans, sending an update mail next week!
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19:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22645: scripts: prevent GCC optimising test symbols in test-symbol-check (master...gcc_optimising_pow) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22645
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20:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #22646: [POC] Tighter Univalue integration, remove `--with-system-univalue` (master...tighter_univalue_integration) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22646
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20:34 < bitcoin-git> [gui] achow101 opened pull request #396: gui: ensure external signer option remains disabled without signers (master...ensure-no-extsigner) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/396
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