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01:41 < bitroach> I have some questions regarding Bitcoin development
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01:41 < bitroach> does Bitcoin core developers get paid by Blockstream inc?
01:42 < bitroach> Blockstream Inc's payees merged segwit and now they merging taproot too into the Bitcoin core software
01:42 < bitroach> isn't Bitcoin supposed to be independent from corporations and governments?
01:44 < bitroach> I believe that Bitcoin is in danger, number 1, it is controlled by a very few people when there are way better engineers in the world, number 2, these so called "developers" working for various corporations not only to Blockstream Inc, example Amazon and Google
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02:19 < meshcollider> bitroach: you should move to #bitcoin, but most of the devs aren't employed by blockstream, no. There's a big variety in developer funding (volunteers, grants, sponsorship, patreon, employment, etc.)
02:19 < bitroach> that is a lie
02:20 < bitroach> segwit and taproot is merged to Bitcoin core because devs working for blockstream inc
02:21 < bitroach> #bitcoin is censored, in fact all bitcoin related channel, forums even github is censored
02:21 < bitroach> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsVR1o1Gi7U
02:22 < bitroach> I'm a bitcoiner since 2011 and I see what is going on
02:23 < bitroach> I have all right to be outraged about this blockstream crap and the propaganda on the Bitcoin repository on GitHub
02:24 < earnestly> A simple 'REEE' would have sufficed
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02:34 < bitroach> basically with segwit and now with taproot blockstream totally taken over the Bitcoin core repository on GitHub
02:34 < bitroach> nobody asked for either segwit nor taproot
02:34 < bitroach> both forced on us
02:35 < bitroach> they trolled Bitcoin Core
02:35 < bitroach> little bit of money here and there and all developers agree to merge crap and destroy Bitcoin
02:36 < bitroach> why segwit or taproot can't be a fork outside of Bitcoin Core? 
02:36 < bitroach> is blockstream unable to fork a github repository?
02:36 < bitroach> they not forked the repository, they paid out millions of dollars to merge they crap to Bitcoin core
02:37 < bitroach> but before that happened Gavin Andresen was kicked out from GitHub
02:37 < bitroach> Gavin Andresen's access to the GitHub repository revoked and all kinds of shit merged to Bitcoin Core without any vote whatsoever
02:47 < bitroach> I just compiled Bitcoin Core on another server I own with --disable-wallet and --without-gui yet when I go to the .bitcoin folder there is a folder called wallets
02:48 < bitroach> instead of sucking up to blockstream the software should be cleared from all the crap blockfuckers added
02:48 < michaelfolkson> bitroach: If you get kicked from #bitcoin you can move to another channel or set up your own channel. But this definitely isn't the right channel for general ranting.
02:49 < bitroach> I don't give a shit about IRC
02:49 < bitroach> I getting kicked from these channels because I own the bitcoin.forum domain if you link https://bitcoin.forum you will be immediately kicked from these channels
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02:50 < bitroach> you can't link a bitcoin forum without approval from the motherfuckers who think they own Bitcoin
02:51 < bitroach> let me absolutely clear, none of you welcome on the Bitcoin Forum and I find any of you (talking about the ops on these channels) will be immediately kicked banned from the Bitcoin Forum
02:52 < bitroach> if any ops trolling the forum I will publish a topic and will call Bitcoin Core developers terrorists
02:52 < bitroach> American anti-chinese anti-russian motherfuckers pushing for propaganda even on Bitcoin related IRC channels
02:53 < bitroach> you can clearly see that by linking my Bitcoin Forum
02:53 < michaelfolkson> Please leave now as otherwise you will be banned
02:53 < bitroach> the forum is not even open but already censored
02:53 < bitroach> who the fuck cares?
02:53 < bitroach> fucking American pigs
02:54 < earnestly> Oh it's Zoltan again
02:54 < bitroach> always Zoltan 
02:54 < bitroach> forever
02:54 < bitroach> ;)
02:56 < bitroach> well, turned out that Zoltan controls the Bitcoin Forum, keep bullshitting and each of you will be doxed in a nice topic
02:56 < bitroach> I'm definitely going to call Bitcoiners to abandon all Bitcoin related IRC channels because run by fucktards who censor it
02:57 < bitroach> why the https://bitcoin.forum domain is censored? Is not even open!
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02:58 < bitroach> I'm not theymos bud, I don't hide and certainly not scamming and stealing 11,000 Bitcoin
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02:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] n-thumann opened pull request #22768: script: Add commits signed with sipas expired key to allow-revsig-commits (master...add_sipa_expired_key_signed_commits) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22768
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03:03 < bitroach> I'm open for helping Bitcoin Core Developers by allowing them to join the Bitcoin Forum, Bitcoin Core Developers have exclusive right to post and moderate the Development category on the forum. At one point I considered to approve all signups with @bitcoincore.org emails and grant them developer badges, but after that my domain is censored on IRC I changed my mind pretty quickly. currently the only person I respect is luke-jr, 
03:03 < bitroach> he is the only mentally stable developer
03:06 < bitroach> I even offered over 20% donation to Bitcoin Core from all the forum related income, I talked with luke-jr and I would only pay to him nobody else, we didn't agree in the terms yet I just offered a cut
03:07 < bitroach> funny isn't? I offering thousands of dollars + working on a Bitcoin Forum and I get attacked, banned and censored on IRC
03:08 < bitroach> Just to make it clear, I allow Bitcoin Cash to be on the Bitcoin Forum, why would I censor Roger Ver and Kim DotCom? 
03:08 < bitroach> Bitcoin Cash is still Bitcoin, possibly even more than the current Bitcoin Core
03:10 < bitroach> both Bitcoin Core discussions and Bitcoin Cash discussions are welcome to the Bitcoin Forum, I'm only going to censor those who in any way advocate for Blockstream
03:11 < bitroach> Artifical Intelligence also deployed on the Bitcoin Forum so trolls has no chance, they post will be hidden by the AI soon as they click the submit button
03:13 < bitroach> the current Bitcoin environment like r/Bitcoin the IRC channels like this one as well the GitHub repo and the theymos and cobrabitcoin run Bitcoin sites are brutally censored and extremely centralized in the hands of a few, I'm the person who going to change that and nobody can do absolutely nothing to stop what is coming
03:20 < bitroach> I open the forum soon as I published the Bitcoin paper in markdown (I did just had some issue with the database what I fixed) also by default all users has end-to-end encrypted PMs enabled which based on BIP-39, PMs can't be scanned by the AI as you imagine because of the strong encryption
03:20 < bitroach> the markdown files from the GitHub repo can be published pretty easily on the forum which is what going to happen
03:22 < bitroach> oh and youtube videos also supported (if you reach a specific user level) 
03:22 < bitroach> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jq57BjBVq7o ;)
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03:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #22769: fuzz: Use LIMITED_WHILE instead of limit_max_ops (master...2108-fuzzRefactor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22769
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03:28 < bitroach> I can add Github integration to the Bitcoin Forum pretty easily, lets see how you guys will like the forum first ;) 
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03:38 < muhblockchain> earnestly: LOL. anyway, dunno why you don't +b that permanent troll - Zoltan - on first sight
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04:26 < muhblockchain> imagine being bad at folder wallets/. after people asked for multiwallet for years. Thanks for coding that in, btw :)
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05:52 < laanwj> gah
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07:15 < TallTim> ...and people wonder why I loathe Roger Ver. He has disciples like that ranter.
07:16 < TallTim> btw, Umbrel OS is kinda neat. Running a node now.
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07:50 < laanwj> umbrel looks neat, haven't used it yet
07:52 < laanwj> i like the idea of a user friendly unified remote node ui, seems to fill a gap for people using nodes on single board computers like rpis
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08:04 < prayank> laanwj: Are these ever discussed before? 1. Bitcoin Core web console like i2p has a webpage at 127.0.0.1:7070. We could add lot of thing in it that are normally rejected for qt. Example: Mempool charts and other charts (basics) 2. Plugins for qt like Electrum
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08:53 < laanwj> take a look at umbrel, i'd say
08:54 < laanwj> but mempool charts "aren't rejected for qt", such plots are welcome in the debug window
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08:56 < prayank> I like Umbrel. It's good. Still when I opened that i2pd web console, my first feeling was wow we could do something similar for Core.
08:57 < laanwj> it's out of scope for core imo
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08:58 < prayank> Okay
08:58 < laanwj> also, programs like that already exist, no need to do our own clone which will likely be worsely maintained because we're already spread very thin
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08:59 < laanwj> sorry to so often be a naysayer for features, at this point it's very important to delimit scope of the project
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09:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #22772: refactor: hasher cleanup (follow-up to 19935) (master...202108_hasher_cleanup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22772
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09:02 < laanwj> i think what projects like umbrel do right is to treat core as a component, not as something that should absorb or include all the other functionality, they make it more user friendly by offering things like web guis and a way to install and manage everything bitcoin related as a suite
09:05 < prayank> I understand every feature requests can't be included. Just don't want to keep things in my mind and forget which might help the project. And I love contributing to Core. Sorry for some misunderstanding and my issues earlier with some PRs. Infact most of the devs are humble and help each other.
09:05 < laanwj> as for a mempool stats chart in the qt gui, there is an open PR for this see https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/108
09:06 < prayank> Yeah there are 2 more I guess and we had some NACKs there. I think it's sorted but nobody working right now
09:07 < laanwj> i'm not against including it in the GUI, i haven't seen the code and don't know how impactful it is to the rest of the code though
09:08 < laanwj> but lets move GUI discussion to #bitcoin-core-gui
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17:18 < robertspigler> I wouldn't use umbrel in production yet https://github.com/getumbrel/umbrel/blob/master/SECURITY.md
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19:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ben-kaufman opened pull request #22775: rpc: Add option to list transactions from oldest to newest in `listtransactions` RPC command (master...listtransactions-set-order) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22775
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20:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e9d6eb1b8071...a93e7a442250
20:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2f01903 Pieter Wuille: Avoid temporary vectors/uint256s in VerifyTaprootCommitment
20:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a93e7a4 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22748: refactor: Avoid temporary vectors/uint256s in...
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20:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22748: refactor: Avoid temporary vectors/uint256s in VerifyTaprootCommitment (master...202108_xonlyspan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22748
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21:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kallewoof opened pull request #22776: rpc/wallet: add optional transaction to getbalances (master...202108-getbalances-tx) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22776
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21:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a93e7a442250...e826b22da252
21:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master addb9b5 Pieter Wuille: Improve comments in taproot signing logic
21:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c7048aa Pieter Wuille: Simplify SignTransaction precomputation loop
21:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d8f4b97 Pieter Wuille: Remove default nHashTypeIn arguments to MutableTransactionSignatureCreator...
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21:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #22275: A few follow-ups for taproot signing (master...202106_taproot_sign_followup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22275
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