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Anywhere.] 03:57 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:57 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@2601:586:4a00:b860:1834:cb58:2698:81ad] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:02 < laanwj> meshcollider: sure, what would you assign it to? we don't really have good experiences with hacktoberfest, often it's trivial low-effort things that just soak up review time 04:06 < laanwj> but i'm fine with creating the label if we have an idea for i 04:10 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:10 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:14 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:14 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:18 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:18 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:23 -!- c_arc 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has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:52 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:52 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:54 < yanmaani> In #10609, it says "getrawtransaction currently works with pruned nodes as long as the transaction has at least one unspent output. I believe this functionality is deprecated though." 20:54 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/10609 | Feature request: pruned chain and getrawtransaction · Issue #10609 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 20:54 < yanmaani> Is this still the case? 20:55 < yanmaani> Also, would it be OK to send in a PR that relied on this behaviour and, I suppose, un-deprecated it? Specifically for adding support for non-wallet inputs into fundrawtransaction, which is explicitly marked TODO. 20:56 < sipa> i don't see what those have to do with each other 20:56 < sipa> why does fundrawtransaction need to be able to look up a TX? 20:58 < yanmaani> sipa: Because it has to know the size needed to spend an input. 20:58 < yanmaani> If it's a wallet TX, this is fine. If it's a full TX, this is fine. But if it has just the vout, then it has to look up the full TX. 20:58 < sipa> i don't understand 20:58 < yanmaani> And the database will only have vout -> block. This means it wouldn't work on pruned. 20:59 < sipa> why does the size of the TX that created a UTXO matter? 20:59 < yanmaani> If I call FRT with a non-wallet input, it will currently error. 20:59 < yanmaani> sipa: not the size, but the size to spend it. 20:59 < sipa> that's the transaction you're constructing; nothing needs to be looked up... 21:00 < yanmaani> sipa: if it's a non-wallet input, I don't think I have that info? 21:00 < sipa> well maybe be a bit more concrete... what are you trying to do? 21:00 < sipa> how are you going to instruct fundrawtransaction to include a non-wallet TX? 21:00 < yanmaani> sipa: add support for non-wallet inputs in fundrawtransaction 21:00 < yanmaani> by passing in a transaction that contains a non-wallet input 21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:01 < yanmaani> something that I can do right now, but will unconditionally give "insufficient funds" error. 21:01 < sipa> i'm rather confused 21:01 < sipa> you can't pass in a transaction, you need to somehow make it find a UTXO to spend 21:01 < sipa> the simplest way would be giving txid:vout 21:01 < sipa> or giving it a UTXO directly, even 21:01 < yanmaani> sipa: fundrawtransaction takes a transaction passed in. 21:02 < sipa> oh, i see 21:02 < yanmaani> If some of these transactions are not ours, it should still be able to fund it. E.g. transaction with 1btc in (from non-wallet), 2btc out, it should be able to add 0.999 or whatever. 21:02 < meshcollider> yanmaani: you might be interested in #17211 21:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17211 | Allow fundrawtransaction and walletcreatefundedpsbt to take external inputs by achow101 · Pull Request #17211 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 21:02 < yanmaani> so see line 462 on src/wallet/spend.cpp 21:03 < sipa> i still don't see what this has to do with looking up transactions though 21:03 -!- saranshs_ [~saranshsh@202.142.81.250] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:03 < meshcollider> I think 17211 probably addresses what you're trying to do 21:04 < yanmaani> meshcollider: yeah, I think so too. Do you know if it works if I send in an already-signed input? 21:04 < yanmaani> e.g. 1btc external input, with signature, and then 2btc out. Or would I need to take the signture in and out? 21:04 -!- saranshsharma [~saranshsh@202.142.81.250] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:05 < sipa> if you add extra inputs or outputs (which is what FRT does), it'll invalidate any signatures that are already there 21:05 < achow101> yanmaani: including non-wallet inputs in fundrawtransaction needs more than just being able to look up the transcation. In fact, looking up the transaction is completely unnecessary - the UTXO set is enough. The problem with non-wallet inputs is that data specific to the owning wallet is missing. This data is things like scripts and pubkeys. These cannot be retrieved from previous transactions. 17211 solves that by allowing users to provide 21:05 < achow101> that data. 21:06 < yanmaani> sipa: yes, but still hopefully use them for calc? 21:07 < achow101> yanmaani: you can't pass in scriptSigs or scriptWitnesses 21:07 < achow101> they will be clobbered 21:08 < yanmaani> achow101: Oh, so it can't use them for fee calc? 21:08 < yanmaani> like, if I give it a half-signed tx, you'd think it could figure out that "hmm, it uses 89 bytes to spend it here, maybe it costs 89 bytes to spend??" 21:08 < yanmaani> (and then discard that siggy anyway, but still use the information in it) 21:08 < achow101> they will be ignored 21:08 < achow101> entirely 21:09 < yanmaani> mmm, even in 17211? 21:09 < achow101> yes 21:09 < yanmaani> still works tho, i suppose, just have to pass in separately. 21:09 < achow101> with variable signatures sizes, there is no guarantee that any signatures will have the same size afterwards 21:09 < yanmaani> variable signature sizes? 21:09 < achow101> the signature size can vary 21:10 < achow101> DER allows signatures to have a variable size. This size will be dependent on all inputs to the signature algorithm, so if any of those change (e.g. the tx changes), then the size will not be known until the signatures is computed 21:11 < achow101> (taproot fixes that problem, but at the same time, if all solving data is present, then it will be possible to predict the same size anyways) 21:11 < yanmaani> achow101: but what about SIGHASH_SINGLE etc? 21:11 < yanmaani> then the inputs will be known in advance 21:11 < sipa> SIGHASH_ANYONECANPAY signature in theory stay valid when adding inputs 21:12 < achow101> fundrawtransaction may still add a change output 21:12 < yanmaani> if I have a tx, 1btc in, 2btc out, and I sign "this goes in and 2btc to here" with key A, then add 0.999btc and sign with multiple 21:12 < sipa> and SIGHASH_SINGLE/NONE signature stay valid when adding outputs 21:12 < yanmaani> achow101: yeah, but that won't have any bearing on the existing sigs. 21:12 -!- darosior0 [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:12 < achow101> yanmaani: depending on your sighash, outputs will have an effect on the message that is signed 21:12 < sipa> but fundrawtransaction will also insert change output in a random place if needed, which would break SIGHASH_SINGLE too 21:13 < yanmaani> sipa: couldn't it just insert the extra input in the same place? 21:13 < achow101> (when I said inputs, I meant "signed messsage", not tx inputs) 21:13 -!- tinova4 [~tinova@lemoncat.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:13 < sipa> yanmaani: it could do lots of things, but doesn't 21:13 < yanmaani> achow101: yeah, but if it's a sighash where adding new outputs won't affect anything? 21:13 -!- gnaf_ [~gnaf@86-91-224-60.opennet.kpn.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:14 < yanmaani> sipa: right, but a poor man's (smaller) version of 17211 that only works with already signed inputs with the correct sighash, would not be of interest? 21:14 < achow101> non SIGHASH_ALL sighashes are not generally optimized for due to the extra complexity and the fact that few people use them 21:14 -!- real_or_random_ [~real_or_r@user/real-or-random/x-4440763] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:14 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@user/belcher] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:14 < achow101> yanmaani: I would nack it 21:15 -!- midnight_ [~midnight@user/midnight] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:15 < yanmaani> achow101: because it's intrinsically bad or just because 17211 already does it better? 21:15 -!- ryanofsky_ [russ@jumpy.yanofsky.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- michaelfolkson2 [~michaelfo@138.68.143.20] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- saranshs_ [~saranshsh@202.142.81.250] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- Keele_ [~keele@88-115-110-85.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- face_ [~face@207.154.206.50] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- da2ce7 [~da2ce7@user/da2ce7] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 -!- cfields [~cfields@user/cfields] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:16 < achow101> both 21:17 -!- Henry151_ [~bishop@user/henry151] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:17 -!- _cold [~cold@user/cold] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:18 < achow101> as noted above, the size given existing signatures is not guaranteed after the transaction is modified. I think there is exactly one case where the signature would not change and it also requires fundrawtransaction to do a very specific modification 21:19 < achow101> because it needs a very specific set of circumstances, such a feature would not be particularly useful, and figuring the exact changes that were made that would allow for the signature to not change would be somewhat complex and difficult to review. 21:20 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: gnaf, da2ce7_, Henry151, midnight, face, real_or_random, michaelfolkson, belcher, cfields_, saranshsharma, (+6 more, use /NETSPLIT to show all of them) 21:20 -!- ryanofsky_ is now known as ryanofsky 21:20 -!- tinova4 is now known as tinova 21:20 -!- darosior0 is now known as darosior 21:21 -!- TallTim_ [~talltim@184-83-239-155-dynamic.midco.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:21 -!- ravish0007_ [~quassel@ec2-65-0-45-121.ap-south-1.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:22 -!- ravish0007 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What about allowing it to fund regardless, but accepting that users are obliged to manually specify change position etc if they use this feature? 21:39 -!- Henry151 [~bishop@user/henry151] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:39 < yanmaani> and then just saying that if users put in the wrong params, they break the signature 21:39 < achow101> there's more to it than just the change position 21:40 < achow101> inputs are shuffled too 21:40 < achow101> so if any inputs are added, they may be added in any position 21:40 < yanmaani> isn't there a param to regulate that? 21:41 < achow101> no 21:41 -!- meshcoll- [meshcollid@jujube.ircnow.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:41 < yanmaani> there is "don't add inputs". i mean you could use it like 21:41 -!- meshcollider [meshcollid@jujube.ircnow.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:41 < yanmaani> 1) fund 21:41 < yanmaani> 2) shuffle inputs back into the right order 21:41 < yanmaani> 3) fund again, select "Don't add inputs" 21:42 < yanmaani> from the PoV of a caller 21:44 < achow101> oh, actually fundtx preserves preset input positions 21:44 < yanmaani> so then all that's needed is making sure the change won't destroy anything, in theory? 21:44 < yanmaani> like putting it after the concerned outputs 21:45 < achow101> no, that's not necessarily safe 21:45 < achow101> a sighash_single input with no corresponding output could be clobbered by that, and there's no way around it if a change output must be added 21:46 < achow101> e.g. 3 inputs, 2 outputs, with the last being sighash single. if a change output must be added, the sighash will necessarily change because of the way sighash_single works 21:46 < achow101> regardless of the position of the change output 21:47 < achow101> yanmaani: what are you trying to do that this complexity makes sense to do? 21:47 < yanmaani> Wait, a "a sighash_single input with no corresponding output", how is that even valid? 21:47 < yanmaani> is it just signing ... nothing? 21:47 -!- saranshsharma [~saranshsh@202.142.81.250] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:47 < achow101> it signs the number "1" (expanded to 256 bits) 21:47 < yanmaani> oh, and is that valid? 21:48 -!- laanwj [~laanwj@user/laanwj] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 21:48 < yanmaani> if so, you would just have to not allow sighash_single 21:48 < achow101> yes, it's kind of a bug 21:48 -!- laanwj [~laanwj@user/laanwj] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:48 -!- saranshsharma [~saranshsh@202.142.81.250] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 21:49 < achow101> I don't think going through the effort to implement this is any less than just trying to get 17211 through 21:49 < yanmaani> or, you could, but error if you have to add new outputs. 21:49 < yanmaani> yeah, at that point you're not really dealing with a "smaller, easier" version really 21:49 < yanmaani> just a shittier one :P 21:50 < achow101> exactly 21:57 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:58 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:01 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@2601:586:4a00:b860:1834:cb58:2698:81ad] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 22:05 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:05 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:09 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:09 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:13 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:13 -!- c_arc [~c_arc@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 22:15 -!- murrayn [~murray@user/murrayn] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - 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