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01:29 < gleb7> jnewbery: #22910 can be undrafted now? It's unclear whether the pr is good for review :)
01:29 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22910 | [RFC] Encapsulate asmap in NetGroupManager by jnewbery · Pull Request #22910 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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02:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5b7210c8745d...1790a8ddacae
02:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b142f79 lsilva01: skip test_getaddressinfo() if wallet is disabled
02:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c2fbdca lsilva01: Add BECH32_INVALID_VERSION test
02:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1790a8d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#22794: test: Verify if wallet is compiled in rpc_inv...
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02:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #22794: test: Verify if wallet is compiled in rpc_invalid_address_message.py test (master...split_invalid_address_message_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22794
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03:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dougEfresh opened pull request #23249: util: ParseByteUnits - Parse a string with a suffix unit (master...util-parsebyteunit) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23249
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03:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] SatoshiBitcoin opened pull request #23250: test pull request (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23250
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03:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #23250: test pull request (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23250
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04:01 < jnewbery> gleb7: It's ready for review, but I'm not 100% sure that https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22910/commits/16cef1ba368302531672ffe81d19bf70e61bd127 doesn't change behaviour in some subtle way. I'd need to do a very careful review of it and possibly add more tests to make sure.
04:02 < jnewbery> Until I've reviewed my own code and I'm satisfied it's right, I don't want it to be mergeable
04:02 < jnewbery> I'll try to get to it in the next couple of weeks
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05:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23253:  bitcoin-tx: Reject non-integral and out of range sequence ids  (master...2110-utilTxSeqId) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23253
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05:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #20544: build: Do not repeat warning names in -Werror=... options (master...201202-werror) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20544
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05:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hieblmi opened pull request #23254: Fix typo and grammar (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23254
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05:42 < meshcollider> I accidentally offended drahtbot https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/16807#issuecomment-939993269
05:43 < fanquake> 🤖
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05:47 < meshcollider> Review beg for that PR #16807 btw ^ I just added a tonne of comments to assist review of the bech32 error detection code itself
05:47 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16807 | Let validateaddress locate error in Bech32 address by meshcollider · Pull Request #16807 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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07:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23255: util: Add mincore and clone3 to syscall sandbox (master...2110-syscall) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23255
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09:59 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> I'm studying crypto right now. What I've noticed is a lot of these algorithms have lookup tables in them.
09:59 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> I'm wondering how those lookup tables are generated and if they are constructed in a certain way for a reason
10:00 < sipa> Kaizen_Kintsugi: read the original publications about the cryptographic systems you're looking into
10:01 < sipa> sometimes the tables are just part of the specification, with a certain rationale
10:01 < sipa> sometimes they're an optimization
10:01 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> sipa: thanks for the pointers Ill do that
10:02 < sipa> i can give you better pointers if you say what specifically you're looking at
10:02 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> I'm starting at the beginning so DES
10:03 < sipa> heh, that would be offtopic here; DES isn't used in Bitcoin (and considered way too weak nowadays)
10:03 < stick> Kaizen_Kintsugi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-box
10:03 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> ah okay, i guess I could look at something more relevant, sha256 I think has the same thing
10:03 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> I'm trying to up my understanding to contrib to core
10:05 < sipa> for almost all things relates to Bitcoin Core developmemt, you can think of cryptographic algorithms as black boxes
10:05 < sipa> they provide certain guarantees, under certain conditions
10:06 < sipa> how and why they have these properties is somewhere between lots of deep theory, and just having lots of smart people having tried to break it
10:06 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> stick: thx, that scratched my curiosity perfectly, learned about bent functions
10:06 < sipa> i don't want to discourage you from learning cryptography, or implementations used; it's super fun
10:06 < sipa> but it's also almost irrelevant
10:07 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> sipa: yea I want to shore up my understanding, but this is the guidance I'm looking for, I dont really need to know how sha256, but btc uses in places x,y and z ect
10:07 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> is what I'm hearing
10:07 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> oof, that was a bad sentence.
10:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> What I'm hearing is, I dont need to know cryptographic details, I should learn where and when it is used in btc
10:09 < sipa> right; of course, if you'd want to propose the introduction of new cryptographic constructs or protocols, more understanding will be useful... but that's a rare thing
10:10 < sipa> beyond that... SHA256 is just a good cryptographic hash function
10:10 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> yea, I don't see myself doing that anytime soon haha.
10:10 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> right
10:10 < sipa> and of course, everyone who ever contributed to the cryptography had to start somewhere
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11:11 < yanmaani> Kaizen_Kintsugi: SHA256 has lookup tables of cube roots of first 256 primes
11:11 < sipa> s/lookup tables/IV/
11:11 < yanmaani> these are just chosen as "random" data
11:11 < yanmaani> yeah fair enough
11:12 < sipa> but yeah, such numbers are called NUMS (nothing up my sleeve)... they don't want them to have some very obvious structure (like all zeroes), but also don't want to actually put random numbers in the spec
11:12 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> yanmaani: I don't quite grasp that, I'm going to look it up
11:12 < sipa> so they use some simple formula that's unlikely to produce a specific structure that would weaken the system
11:13 < yanmaani> that, the first digits of pi, or "100,000 random numbers and their deviates" is the classic ;)
11:13 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> okay i see now
11:13 < sipa> in the case of SHA2, the IVs are indeed chosen as square roots and cube roots of primes
11:13 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> 2**(1/3)
11:13 < sipa> SHA3 actually doesn't have NUMS numbers
11:13 < sipa> which is pretty neat
11:14 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> its a way of generating irrational numbers
11:14 < Kaizen_Kintsugi> and is deterministic
11:15 < yanmaani> What is on-topic for the bitcoin-dev list, exactly?
11:15 < sipa> bitcoin development
11:15 < yanmaani> But it's not just patches for Bitcoin Core, right
11:15 < sipa> no, it's specifically not about bitcoin core (which is just an implementation)
11:16 < yanmaani> Is it about general technical ideas for cryptocurrency?
11:16 < yanmaani> Because I see some discussion about such topics
11:16 < sipa> anything you want to propose/discuss in the context of bitcoin
11:16 < sipa> not generic cryptocurrency discussion
11:19 < yanmaani> But something like p2pool would be on-topic, because it can be used with bitcoin?
11:19 < sipa> sure
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17:33 < BlueMatt> any update on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17631 ? Would be nice.
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17:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab4073 MarcoFalke: util: Add mincore and clone3 to syscall sandbox
17:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e418a8e fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23255: util: Add mincore and clone3 to syscall sandb...
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18:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider opened pull request #23258: doc: Fix outdated comments referring to ::ChainActive() (master...202110_outdated_chainstate_comments) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23258
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19:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fad55e7 MarcoFalke: doc: Fixup ToIntegral docs
19:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa03dec MarcoFalke: refactor: Use C++11 range based for loop in ParseScript
19:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa053c0 MarcoFalke: style: Fix whitespace in Parse* functions
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19:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] meshcollider merged pull request #23227: bitcoin-tx: Avoid treating integer overflow as OP_0 (master...2110-ToIntegral) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23227
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23:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fbbbc594ad2f...8df7eee5e1c8
23:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4d0aa MarcoFalke: test: * -> &
23:52 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8df7eee MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23132: test: Change background_cs from pointer to re...
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23:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23132: test: Change background_cs from pointer to reference in validation_chainstate_tests (master...2109-testStarToAmpersand) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23132
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