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00:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to 22.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12b315484d1a...56156a1f08b0
00:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x e959b46 fanquake: build: explicitly disable libsecp256k1 openssl based tests
00:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x 56156a1 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23315: [22.x] build: explicitly disable libsecp256k1...
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00:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23315: [22.x] build: explicitly disable libsecp256k1 openssl based tests (22.x...22_x_disable_libsecp256k1_openssl_tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23315
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01:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c53e95f22cc2...3e3f53c77e73
01:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa44406 MarcoFalke: ci: Disable syscall sandbox in valgrind functional tests
01:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3e3f53c MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23328: ci: Disable syscall sandbox in valgrind funct...
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01:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23328: ci: Disable syscall sandbox in valgrind functional tests (master...2110-ciValSan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23328
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01:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3e3f53c77e73...9aa4ddb410b2
01:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 130ee48 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: get and decode tx with a single `gettransaction` RPC call
01:08 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9aa4ddb MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23287: test: get and decode tx with a single `gettra...
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01:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23287: test: get and decode tx with a single `gettransaction` RPC call (master...202110-test-fetch_and_decode_tx_with_single_RPC_call) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23287
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01:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/9aa4ddb410b2...548ad5ef7f60
01:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4ac8c89 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: check that bumpfee RPC fails for txs with descendants in mempool
01:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 548ad5e MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23281: test: check that bumpfee RPC fails for txs wi...
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01:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23281: test: check that bumpfee RPC fails for txs with descendants in mempool (master...202110-test-bumpfee_test_descendant_in_mempool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23281
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01:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/548ad5ef7f60...88fc7950f8db
01:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b7884dd brunoerg: test: bip125-replaceable in listsinceblock
01:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 88fc795 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23267: test: bip125-replaceable in listsinceblock
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01:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23267: test: bip125-replaceable in listsinceblock (master...2021-10-test-bip125-listsinceblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23267
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02:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23331: test: Replace log with assert_equal in wallet_abandonconflict (master...2110-testAssert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23331
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06:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23332: doc: Fix CWalletTx::Confirmation doc (master...2110-docWalletConfirm) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23332
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07:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #23333: wallet: fix segfault by avoiding invalid default-ctored `external_spk_managers` entry (master...202110-wallet-fix_getwalletinfo_segfault_after_importing_descriptor) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23333
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08:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/88fc7950f8db...ee1294f155a4
08:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96f469f Jon Atack: netinfo: print peer counts for all reachable networks
08:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ee1294f W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23324: Print peer counts for all reachable networks ...
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08:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23324: Print peer counts for all reachable networks in -netinfo (master...netinfo-print-peer-counts-for-all-reachable-networks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23324
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10:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ee1294f155a4...f41aa81c996f
10:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master be7f413 =: Fix K1/K2 use in the comments in ChaCha20-Poly1305 AEAD
10:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f41aa81 W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23271: crypto: Fix K1/K2 use in the comments in ChaC...
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10:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23271: crypto: Fix K1/K2 use in the comments in ChaCha20-Poly1305 AEAD (master...fix-k1-k2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23271
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10:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f41aa81c996f...8a083bc5b57f
10:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fadf118 MarcoFalke: p2p: Use mocktime for ping timeout
10:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8a083bc W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23218: p2p: Use mocktime for ping timeout
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10:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23218: p2p: Use mocktime for ping timeout (master...2110-mockPingTime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23218
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10:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8a083bc5b57f...179ce098333b
10:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1946af2 Kennan Mell: Add comment to COIN constant.
10:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 179ce09 W. J. van der Laan: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23293: doc: Add comment to COIN constant.
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10:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #23293: doc: Add comment to COIN constant (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23293
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12:01 < hebasto> meeting?
12:02 < josibake> +1
12:02 < michaelfolkson> Don't think my proposed meeting topics have been picked up on https://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt
12:02 < michaelfolkson> Ah I think gnusha was down, that may be it
12:03 < michaelfolkson> You here laanwj?
12:04 < meshcollider>  <michaelfolkson> #proposedmeetingtopic Encouraging people to propose meeting topics for the weekly IRC Core dev meetings
12:04 < meshcollider> <michaelfolkson> #proposedmeetingtopic Attempting to transition to full RBF over multiple major versions
12:04 < laanwj> #startmetting
12:04 < jonasschnelli> hi
12:04 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:04 < meshcollider> hi
12:04 < sipa> hi
12:04 < cfields> hi
12:04 < hebasto> hi
12:04 < michaelfolkson> hi
12:04 < kvaciral[m]> hi
12:04 < ariard> hi
12:04 < jonatack> hi
12:04 < lightlike> hi
12:04 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos
12:05 < laanwj> nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
12:05 < achow101> hi
12:05 < jamesob> hi
12:05 < jonasschnelli> #proposedmeetingtopic some personal information from myside
12:05 < josibake> hi
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12:05 < sipa> #proposedmeetingtopic: 23306 proposes (and is a first step towards) getting rid of the prefer-port-8333 policy on the network
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12:06 < laanwj> other proposed meeting topics: tag 0.20.3-final (fanquake) Encouraging people to propose meeting topics for the weekly IRC Core dev meetings (michaelfolkson) Attempting to transition to full RBF over multiple major versions (michaelfolkson)
12:07 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
12:07 < fjahr> hi
12:07 < michaelfolkson> Mine aren't urgent and can be pushed to another week
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12:08 < laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 has 10 blockers, 1 chasing concept ACK
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12:08 < laanwj> anything to add/remove, that is ready for review, or that you'd like to give an update on?
12:09 < meshcollider> I'd quite like to have #16807 on there
12:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16807 | Let validateaddress locate error in Bech32 address by meshcollider · Pull Request #16807 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:10 < ariard> maybe either #22674 or #23121, i think the former is more ready
12:10 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22674 | validation: mempool validation and submission for packages of 1 child + parents by glozow · Pull Request #22674 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:10 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23121 | [policy] check ancestor feerate in RBF, remove BIP125 Rule2 by glozow · Pull Request #23121 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:10 < laanwj> meshcollider: added
12:10 < meshcollider> Thanks!
12:11 < laanwj> ariard: i don't have an opinion which one, maybe someone else has
12:11 < ariard> yeah if glozow is around :)
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12:12 < cfields> just a quick note: #23114 (minisketch integration, already listed as hi prio) is ~ready, but also requires review of minisketch itself. So... review beg for minisketch itself as well :)
12:12 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23114 | Add minisketch subtree and integrate into build/test by fanquake · Pull Request #23114 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:12 < sipa> ACK minisketch!
12:12  * sipa hdies
12:12 < sipa> *hides
12:12 < josibake> reading that as sip dies was much more dramatic
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12:13 < michaelfolkson> Definite ACK for Minisketch. You mean on the Core PR cfields?
12:13 < sipa> i meant mine as: i'm obviously ack on the minisketch code itself, but i doubt it counts for much
12:14 < michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23114
12:14 < cfields> michaelfolkson: I mean the minisketch impl itself also needs review, not just the concept of merging it into core.
12:14 < laanwj> ariard: ok, added #22674 as it is more clearly a blocker for further work
12:14 < michaelfolkson> So that is reviewing the Minisketch repo rather than a particular PR?
12:14 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22674 | validation: mempool validation and submission for packages of 1 child + parents by glozow · Pull Request #22674 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:14 < michaelfolkson> That's great that the Minisketch build stuff is ~ready
12:15 < laanwj> i'll have a look at the minisketch impl
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12:15 < michaelfolkson> Repo: https://github.com/sipa/minisketch
12:16 < sipa> FWIW, there have been two review clubs on the minisketch algorithm and code; https://bitcoincore.reviews/minisketch-26-2 and https://bitcoincore.reviews/minisketch
12:16 < laanwj> neat
12:17 < cfields> sipa: ah, thanks, good to know. I missed those.
12:17 < cfields> anyway, didn't mean to turn it into a topic, just a quick note.
12:17 < michaelfolkson> And post those reviews of the repo generally on #23114
12:17 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23114 | Add minisketch subtree and integrate into build/test by fanquake · Pull Request #23114 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:18 < sipa> oh, there were three; https://bitcoincore.reviews/minisketch-26 too
12:18 < laanwj> haah
12:18 < jonatack> those were really interesting review clubs. i recall testing and reviewing minisketch, will return to it
12:19 < laanwj> so it's not exactly that it had a lack of review
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12:19 < ariard> yeah i read the paper a while back https://eprint.iacr.org/2003/235.pdf, it was fun
12:20 < sipa> regarding testing, there are exhaustive tests for various small fields (smaller than the one we'd use, but most code is shared across)
12:20 < cfields> heh, ok, review beg retracted. I was just responding to a few "reviewed the integration but not the impl" on that PR, but apparently review has been happening too :)
12:20 < michaelfolkson> cfields: A few months ago :)
12:21 < laanwj> cfields: it wasn't entirely clear to me either so it's good to have brought it up imo
12:21 < michaelfolkson> +1
12:21 < laanwj> #topic Some personal information from myside (jonasschnelli)
12:22 < jonasschnelli> As most of you have probably recognized, I was pretty inactive during the last months
12:22 < jonasschnelli> Today, I'd like to inform you that I will step down as maintainer and contributor
12:22 < sipa> jonasschnelli: sad to see you go
12:22 < cfields> :(
12:22 < jonasschnelli> I will remove my committer rights immediately 
12:22 < laanwj> hope you'll be back some day!
12:22 < jonasschnelli> The reasons are mostly a shift in interest as well as rising legal risks (it wasn't you :)
12:22 < laanwj> but i get it
12:23 < jonasschnelli> and who know,... i might come back later down the road.
12:23 < cfields> jonasschnelli: hope everything's ok. there will always room for you here :)
12:23 < jamesob> Sad to see you go jonasschnelli but enjoy what other things life has to offer
12:23 < jamesob> Come back anytime :)
12:23 < sipa> and of course, good luck on wherever your path may lead
12:23 < jonasschnelli> thanks all.
12:23 < jonasschnelli> As for the macOS signing keys, I think either achow or fanquake would be a good fit
12:23 < hebasto> come back soon :)
12:23 < luke-jr> aren't the signing keys held by a corporate entity?
12:24 < laanwj> yes,good luck in whatever else you're going to do
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12:24 < jonasschnelli> luke-jr: legaly yes,.. but technically someone needs to sign it
12:24 < jonasschnelli> I’ll remain the legal „president“ of the „Bitcoin Core Code Signing Association“ in Switzerland (the construct for getting code sign certificates, currently active for macOS but only a backup for the Delaware LLC that holds the win certificate)
12:24 < jonasschnelli> Off course, I’ll stick around here and can help where requested.
12:24 < jonatack> sad to hear that but understandable...i hope you'll be catching some waves and enjoying life
12:25 < cfields> jonasschnelli: also, thanks for being responsible and being willing to revoke your own access. much appreciated.
12:25 < laanwj> jonatack: that's good to hear
12:25 < jonasschnelli> sure things!
12:25 < laanwj> cfields: +1
12:26 < sipa> indeed
12:26 < jonasschnelli> If someone likes to continue bitcoinbuilds.org, please DM me (server costs are covered)
12:26 < meshcollider> Thanks for all your work over the years jonasschnelli! Best of luck for whatever comes next for you :)
12:26 < jonasschnelli> thanks meshcollider!
12:26 < achow101> sad to see you go, and good luck with whatever else you decide to do
12:27 < michaelfolkson> +1
12:27 < luke-jr> jonasschnelli: does it need much babysitting?
12:27 < jonasschnelli> luke-jr: yes... it need some tweaking (and some love)
12:27 < ariard> Yeah thanks for the numerous years of hard work, hope you'll be back
12:27 < achow101> in terms of the macOS code signing key, I can take that over if everyone feels that isn't too centralizing
12:27 < laanwj> jonasschnelli: re if no one else does it i'm ok with doing it
12:27 < achow101> I can also get one issued to the Delaware LLC
12:27 < laanwj> +bitcoinbuilds
12:28 < luke-jr> achow101: we shouldn't be putting trust in these keys either way *shrug*
12:28 < josibake> echoing everyone else, thank your for your contributions and best of luck in whatever you do next
12:28 < luke-jr> laanwj: thanks
12:28 < josibake> thank you*
12:28 < jonasschnelli> laanwj: great to hear. It's quite a mess and someone really loving shell scipts and virtualization should tackle it
12:28 < fjahr> jonasschnelli: thank you also from me for all the things already mentioned!
12:30 < laanwj> #topic Getting rid of the prefer-port-8333 policy (sipa)
12:30 < sipa> just a very short topic
12:30 < laanwj> [#23306 proposes (and is a first step towards) getting rid of the prefer-port-8333 policy on the network]
12:30 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23306 | Make AddrMan support multiple ports per IP by sipa · Pull Request #23306 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:31 < sipa> it's all in the PR, i just wanted to make sure people saw
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12:31 < laanwj> will check it out!
12:31 < sipa> as it's a potentially far-reaching policy change (the PR doesn't actually change the policy, but it's a preparation for it)
12:31 < jonatack> +1
12:32 < sipa> unless someone has questions/comments, that's it for my topic
12:32 < laanwj> concept ack anyhow
12:33 < michaelfolkson> I would guess there are some lazy habits where 8333 is etched into people's minds.
12:33 < michaelfolkson> But not a strong rationale for not changing that
12:33 < laanwj> i'll skip fanquake's topic as i think he meant 0.20.2, and that already happened Oct 18
12:34 < fanquake> yes I’ve made that tag already
12:34 < fanquake> we’ve had a few signed builders for 0.20.2 as well
12:34 < laanwj> i also built it but not uploaded sigs yet, will do
12:35 < laanwj> #topic Encouraging people to propose meeting topics for the weekly IRC Core dev meetings (michaelfolkson)
12:35 < fanquake> jonasschnelli: ! Hope you are doing ok, and maybe back to Core dev some day.
12:36 < josibake> are there any existing guidelines for what a "good" topic is?
12:36 < michaelfolkson> Ok very short one. Just to encourage people to propose meeting topics for this meeting. The number of topics have been pretty sparse in recent weeks/months and it is much better to have too many than next to none
12:36 < michaelfolkson> We can always push non-urgent to future weeks
12:37 < michaelfolkson> josibake: No but that sounds like a good idea
12:37 < michaelfolkson> It can be a PR though or a mini Core project though (imo)
12:37 < michaelfolkson> There is the Core PR review club too of course
12:38 < laanwj> josibake: dunno, you know you can always just ask in the channel
12:38 < michaelfolkson> And we are doing an online livestreamed session on AssumeUTXO
12:38 < laanwj> if it's relevant to current development in the repository and there's people willing to talk about it it's a good topic, that's pretty wide
12:38 < sipa> i like having short meetings tbh
12:39 < michaelfolkson> You can leave early though sipa :)
12:39 < sipa> i mean: we don't need to fill meetings because meetings should be filled
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12:39 < michaelfolkson> The P2P ones have effectively been cancelled
12:39 < sipa> sure, if there is a topic, let's discuss it
12:39 < josibake> laanwj: thanks
12:39 < ariard> michaelfolkson: some people are attending multiple meetings, lightning, etc, short meetings are good :)
12:39 < michaelfolkson> I guess but people can leave if they aren't interested in the topic
12:40 < laanwj> i like short meetings but also, it's good if the time available is used in a productive way
12:40 < laanwj> if it ends with "high priority for review" every time it's also a bit demotivating
12:40 < jamesob> yeah, agree
12:40 < michaelfolkson> Just a thought that there are avenues for getting more review on your PR if you are frustrated (which imo includes this meeting)
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12:41 < jamesob> I'm going to go on a tirade about nits at some point, so I'll queue that up for a future meeting :)
12:41 < laanwj> hehh
12:41 < michaelfolkson> PR review nits?
12:41 < jamesob> yes
12:41 < michaelfolkson> The TL;DR?
12:41 < laanwj> i mean some things you acn also bring up outside meeting, not everything needs to be in the meeting
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12:41 < laanwj> just depends
12:41 < jamesob> ugh I don't know. They can just be really demotivating and distracting, but I need to collect my thoughts and figure out if I have any actually-actionable things to say
12:42 < michaelfolkson> Ok
12:42 < laanwj> any cast this gets veeeery meta
12:42 < jamesob> it was 40% a joke
12:42 < michaelfolkson> Haha ok next topic (as we've got ariard here and he doesn't like meetings)
12:42 < michaelfolkson> Let's cover the full RBF topic
12:42 < laanwj> #topic Attempting to transition to full RBF over multiple major versions (michaelfolkson)
12:43 < laanwj> jamesob: 40% joke is the best approach to things
12:43 < jamesob> lol
12:43 < ariard> ahah
12:43 < michaelfolkson> Ok I'm happy to pass this over to ariard but he previously posted this to the mailing list https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-June/019074.html
12:44 < luke-jr> how about just stop trying to dictate to users what policies they can or can't use? <.<
12:44 < jonatack> jamesob: (i see nits ideally as suggested lightly, and up to the author and that's, that really)
12:44 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: Core has to pick a default
12:44 < laanwj> luke-jr: i understood that's the idea with full RBF, it drops a fair amount of policy restrictions
12:44 < ariard> luke-jr: if you mean simplifying our policy, this proposal is going in that sense ? but ultimately we *do* have to pickup defaults and they're free of implications
12:44 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: not really; and right now, Core is forcing its "default" on users
12:44 < sipa> my view is generally: come up with an actual workable and worked-out policy, and propose it - beyond that it seems like a ML discussion primarily
12:45 < laanwj> you can't really get rid of policy entirely because we need it for anti-DoS etc
12:46 < sipa> at a very high level, i'm concept ack - i think it's inevitable long term that the network will tend to more rational policies, and full RBF is a step towards that
12:46 < luke-jr> Knots has configurable RBF, and I'm happy to re-open the Core PR if people are willing to accept/review it
12:46 < michaelfolkson> sipa: It has been proposed by ariard. And I think he's right to attempt a roadmap for changing it
12:46 < sipa> but it all depends on the details
12:46 < ariard> michaelfolkson: do you have a link towards achow101 BerkeleyDB deprecation plan you were mentioning offline last week ?
12:46 < sipa> michaelfolkson: i don't see a concrete policy, but i may have missed it
12:46 < sipa> "full RBF" isn't a policy, it's an aspiration :)
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12:46 < achow101> ariard: #20160
12:46 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20160 | Proposed Timeline for Legacy Wallet and BDB removal · Issue #20160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:46 < michaelfolkson> Right ^
12:47 < michaelfolkson> I think a similar roadmap could be attempted for full RBF by default (though I hadn't considered configurable option)
12:47 < ariard> achow101: thanks, i'll look at it and see how to adapt for full-rbf, i'll open a PR soon with config knob full-rbf=false
12:47 < luke-jr> https://github.com/luke-jr/bitcoin/tree/fullrbf
12:47 < laanwj> ariard: +1
12:47 < michaelfolkson> There still has to be a default even with configurable option
12:47 < luke-jr> ariard: ^
12:48 < luke-jr> ariard: the code already exists, just a matter of people accepting/reviewing it for Core
12:48 < sipa> i have some thoughts, but i'll respond on the ML
12:48 < ariard> luke-jr: for now, i'll only to propose a config knob with full-rbf=false, i don't think you can configure that for now ?
12:48 < michaelfolkson> There will be some business opposition but if we think long term this is the right thing to do we should attempt to change it over multiple versions giving people plenty of advance warning
12:48 < luke-jr> ariard: yes, that's one of the 3 configurations in that branch/Knots
12:49 < laanwj> having a config know for it in core at all is a start
12:49 < laanwj> changing the default is much further away
12:49 < laanwj> and probably much more controversial
12:49 < luke-jr> mempoolreplacement=none / fee,optin / fee,-optin
12:49 < josibake> laanwj:+1 just adding it as a config option shouldn't be controversial, right?
12:49 < ariard> yes i'm still worried about the Dos against multi-party funding transactions but we have years ahead before i think it starts to be a real issue
12:49 < luke-jr> josibake: it was last time I tried
12:49 < laanwj> josibake: not to me at least, given how many people want this
12:50 < michaelfolkson> Right, there will be some opposition. I have tried speaking to some Lightning businesses to understand their use of Lightning zero conf channels
12:50 < laanwj> luke-jr: when was that? 2015?
12:50 < luke-jr> laanwj: probably
12:50 < ariard> luke-jr: ah okay for the branch, gonna look
12:50 < michaelfolkson> Maybe last words but I think that was wrapped up in the block size drama. I am hoping a long(ish) term plan this time around will be less controversial
12:51 < michaelfolkson> But we'll see. I think we should attempt this long term (over multiple major versions) transition to full RBF
12:51 < laanwj> luke-jr: it does seem attitudes changed a bit since then
12:51 < michaelfolkson> It may fail
12:51 < luke-jr> ariard: just pushed the latest rebase (Oct 8th)
12:51 < luke-jr> laanwj: great
12:51 < ariard> michaelfolkson: though i've been reached out privately by a exchange operator disagreeing with full-rbf after posting on the ML
12:52 < cfields> ariard: suggest they respond publicly :)
12:52 < sipa> +1
12:52 < michaelfolkson> Right, I think the discussion should be out in the open
12:52 < michaelfolkson> If people really don't want it then the attempt may fail
12:53 < ariard> cfields: yeah will ping them back once PR is open!
12:53 < michaelfolkson> Or at least summarize their arguments ariard
12:53 < cfields> ariard: great, thanks!
12:53 < michaelfolkson> We don't need to know who it is if they want to stay anonymous
12:53 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: eh? it's not a consensus change
12:53 < luke-jr> anyone can run full RBF today if they want to. or block RBF entirely if they prefer that.
12:54 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: Right but we should still consult? If people really don't want it?
12:54 < michaelfolkson> At least collect those arguments
12:54 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: if people don't want it, they can just not enable it..
12:54 < laanwj> right, but it's good to give people time to adapt to it at least before changing the default
12:54 < sipa> luke-jr: i don't think that's a useful response
12:54 < sipa> luke-jr: in their mind - for good or bad reasons - the problem is others enabling it
12:54 < sipa> (presumably)
12:54 < luke-jr> sipa: but they have no say over what other people do
12:55 < michaelfolkson> I think generally if we expect opposition/controversy it is good to reach out
12:55 < michaelfolkson> Even if it isn't consensus change
12:55 < laanwj> no, they don't, but a default change would not be something done lightly
12:55 < sipa> luke-jr: which is much easier to address publicly :)
12:55 < luke-jr> laanwj: perhaps, but that's down the road past just an option ;)
12:56 < laanwj> clearly for your own nodes you can run with whatever policy you want
12:56 < michaelfolkson> Also whether we like it or not we are going to have to consider policy more seriously because of Lightning and higher levels
12:56 < laanwj> and i definitely expect miners to start acting rationally in this regard
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12:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23334: fuzz: Descriptor wallet (master...2110-fuzzWall) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23334
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12:56 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: anything that depends on policy for security, is broken by design
12:56 < sipa> laanwj: yeah, it may take a few halvings, though
12:57 < laanwj> i mean, it's not something you can just post a rant against on the mailing list then ignore
12:57 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: It isn't optimal sure. But I still think having Lightning ecosystem is better than ignoring it
12:57 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: Lightning shouldn't depend on policy
12:57 < michaelfolkson> But anyway, let's move it to GitHub issue an mailing list
12:57 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: But it does!
12:57 < luke-jr> last I heard, quite a few nodes and miners already use full RBF for years
12:58 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: they should fix it then, regardless of this discussion
12:58 < michaelfolkson> It is suboptimal but the best we can do currently for Lightning design
12:58 < sipa> i feel like this is a bit like the Linux mantra "don't break userspace"; userspace may be depending on un-guaranteed behavior for dumb/bad reasons, but that doesn't mean you can just go and break it
12:58 < ariard> luke-jr: can you make the expectation that the most economically-rational policy is going to be run in majority over the p2p network ?
12:58 < luke-jr> ariard: no
12:58 < laanwj> i'd prefer to leave it at adding an option for now as well
12:58 < laanwj> 1 minute to go
12:58 < michaelfolkson> Ok we should wrap up. Want to respect people's time
12:58 < michaelfolkson> Thanks
12:58 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: please leave time management to me
12:59 < michaelfolkson> Sorry :)
12:59 < laanwj> but you're right anyhow
12:59 < laanwj> #endmeeting
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13:00 < jonasschnelli> (and yes, happy to shared the tweaked code of the meeting irc bot)
13:01 < luke-jr> ariard: anyone can start mining (in theory), so to expect *some* miners to have such a policy may be reasonable
13:01 < laanwj> jonasschnelli: you run the meetings irc bot?
13:01 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: Thanks. All good here. No drama or so. Just time to move on.
13:01 < jonasschnelli> laanwj: yes. But looks like its down
13:01 < ariard> (btw if you have coredev travel reimbursements applications to submit, please send then on my mail antoine.riard@gmail.com)
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13:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/179ce098333b...12ff8993bcc7
13:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa6c62f MarcoFalke: test: Replace log with assert_equal in wallet_abandonconflict
13:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 12ff899 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23331: test: Replace log with assert_equal in wallet...
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13:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23331: test: Replace log with assert_equal in wallet_abandonconflict (master...2110-testAssert) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23331
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13:02 < cfields> sipa: sorry if I implied that minisketch was desperate for review btw. clearly just a case of me being out of the loop for a while.
13:03 < jonasschnelli> laanwj: it's a modified version of supybot.plugins.MeetBot from debian I think
13:04 < ariard> luke-jr: i got a point that users might be willingly to adopt a more privacy-preserving policy, and it might at odd with an economically-rational one (though hopefully not!)
13:05 < ariard> it has been discussed multiple times on the Lightning side to have LN nodes connecting directly to few miners, but i'm still meeeeh on the censorship-resistance of that
13:06 < laanwj> cfields: it can always use more review :)
13:07 < luke-jr> ariard: btw, should I open the fullrbf branch as a PR?
13:08 < laanwj> jonasschnelli: thanks; i know very little about existing IRC bot projects tbh, but it was kind of useful, and we should probably keep it going
13:09 < fanquake> Also, in regard to the macOS signing keys, fwiw I also currently have access to the Apple developer account that is associated with those keys
13:09 < luke-jr> (bleh, looks like it needs another rebase)
13:09 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: great. I think you should keep that. You can't download the private key from there (but create a new one AFAIK).
13:10 < jonasschnelli> happy to hand over the key to either you or achow101 (depending on how you all think how we should do it)
13:11 < achow101> it's a shared developer account?
13:11 < jonasschnelli> it can have multiple accounts/roles
13:14 < glozow> oh no i missed the meeting 😅 thanks ariard laanwj, #22674 is my top priority as well
13:14 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22674 | validation: mempool validation and submission for packages of 1 child + parents by glozow · Pull Request #22674 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:16 < sipa> cfields: no worries
13:16 < achow101> it'd definitely be easier if we had just one code signer
13:19 < ariard> luke-jr: i have time for doing it in the coming weeks, wanna observed first the deprecation plan from #20160 and explain at best the impact of opt-in RBF on upper layers
13:19 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20160 | Proposed Timeline for Legacy Wallet and BDB removal · Issue #20160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
13:19 < laanwj> glozow: thanks, glad we picked the right one :)
13:20 < glozow> :)
13:20 < sipa> i don't really see why deprecation of BDB has to do with a network policy change
13:21  * luke-jr either ☺
13:21 < achow101> I think it's just for the roadmap format
13:21 < cfields> heh, I was also wondering what I was missing.
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13:26 < laanwj> just the idea of a very long term roadmap i guess
13:27 < ariard> sipa: afaik we don't have that much guidelines to propose potentially-impactful network policy change, though see that conv https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-September/019400.html on sequence lock upgrades defect where it was raised what it could looks like
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14:51 < Guest39> hello friends
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14:57 < Guest39> is satoshi nakamoto alive
14:57 < Guest39> i want to know this
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15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] joankaradimov opened pull request #23335: Include a missing header (master...include-missing-header) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23335
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18:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/12ff8993bcc7...81cdbecd75ae
18:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b00646b Hennadii Stepanov: ci, refactor: Rename VCPKG_TAG variable and vcpkg_cache script
18:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e8692cf Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Improve vcpkg binary cache settings
18:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 81cdbec fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23329: ci: Define cases when invalidate vcpkg binary...
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18:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23329: ci: Define cases when invalidate vcpkg binary cache (master...211020-vcpkg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23329
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