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03:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #23360: Revert "build: fix ASLR for bitcoin-cli on Windows" (master...211026-win-aslr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23360
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04:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #23362: util: Add "importfromcoldcard" command to bitcoin-wallet tool (master...211025-cc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23362
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05:49 < MarcoFalke> jnewbery: Done, updated comment
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05:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/22a90186496a...af4275e8dbde
05:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8fef6 MarcoFalke: doc: Fix CWalletTx::Confirmation doc
05:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master af4275e MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23332: doc: Fix CWalletTx::Confirmation doc
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06:23 < jnewbery> MarcoFalke. Thank you!
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07:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/af4275e8dbde...e77d9679fd0c
07:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d5f985e Russell Yanofsky: multiprocess: Add new bitcoin-gui, bitcoin-qt, bitcoin-wallet init impleme...
07:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e77d967 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23006: multiprocess: Add new bitcoin-gui, bitcoin-qt...
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07:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23006: multiprocess: Add new bitcoin-gui, bitcoin-qt, bitcoin-wallet init implementations (master...pr/ipc-init) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23006
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12:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dougEfresh closed pull request #23344: ci: Reuse pre-built docker builder image for rapid local CI iteration testing (master...ci_reuse_container) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23344
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12:22 < theStack> taproot question: i'm just trying to convert a simple P2WSH script (OP_TRUE, i.e. any-one-can-spend) to P2TR. what would one choose as internal key in this case, if key-path spending is not used? i guess it doesn't matter that much, as long as it's a valid x-only-pubkey?
12:24 < sipa> theStack: BIP341 has recommendations
12:28 < theStack> sipa: thanks, will take a look
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14:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] denis2342 opened pull request #23364: Add a test and optimize HexStr() by 27% (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23364
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15:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #23365: index: Fix backwards search for bestblock (master...202110_index_backtrack) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23365
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15:07 < _aj_> sipa: conditional code with ranges or a fallback? i was just meaning once we switched everything to c++20 in a few years, that's a cool thing we could use. if we were really excited, we could also include the ranges library backported to c++17, but meh. conditional code seems nuts?
15:08 < _aj_> sipa: once we switched to c++20 as the minimum standard, i mean
15:11 < sipa> _aj_: oh sure, once we switch to depending on c++20, using ranges goes from nuts to go nuts
15:12 < sipa> but that seems like a discussion for a reasonably far future that we don't need to care
15:16 < _aj_> sipa: yeah, that's how i took that entire issue. ah, i guess i see how you went from my "can't rely" to "just make it conditional then", my bad
15:20 < sipa> but say, something that lets us switch to a safer (stricter types e.g.) interface for Span in C++20, would perhaps be worth it
15:20 < sipa> even conditionally
15:21 < sipa> even if that adds conditional code, it may help catch bugs in caller code that's not C++20 specific
15:21 < _aj_> as long as it's not conditional at every call site, sure
15:22 < sipa> actually, we can probably modernize Span using some C++17 features already
15:23 < sipa> ah, no, it needs C++20
15:23 < sipa>     /** Construct a span from a begin and end pointer.
15:23 < sipa>      *
15:23 < sipa>      * This implements a subset of the iterator-based std::span constructor in C++20,
15:23 < sipa>      * which is hard to implement without std::address_of.
15:23 < _aj_> you've seen #23226 ?
15:23 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23226 | c++20: Opt-in to modeling view and borrowed_range for Span by theuni · Pull Request #23226 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
15:23 < sipa> yes, but that's for the range interface, which _would_ require conditional code on the caller side
15:23 < sipa> right?
15:25 < _aj_> maybe? i've been trying to avoid learning anything about c++20 so i don't feel sad that i can't use the features for years
15:25 < cfields> 23226 turns some range compilation failures into valid code. But it only has any meaning when the caller is c++20.
15:26 < sipa> i'm wrong about the code i quoted too
15:26 < sipa> the currently supported interface is a strict subset of what is allowed by the C++20 std::span constructor
15:26 < sipa> so enabling it in C++20 mode doesn't add anything for non-C++20 callers
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15:28 < cfields> for that PR, correct. It's only useful for playing with c++20.
15:29 < cfields> I guess you two are discussing conditionally adding the c++20 ctors and other functionality if in c++20 mode?
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15:30 < sipa> i think that was mostly a tangent i got on, thinking it would be an actual benefit to non-C++20-code, to add the full iterators-based Span constructor in C++20 mode
15:30 < sipa> but i was wrong
15:31 < sipa> adding concepts-based checks could be useful though
15:31 < sipa> in that it may give nicer compiler error messages
15:34 < _aj_> you'd only get nicer compiler error messages if you did your dev with c++20 enabled, which would then not give you errors at all when you use non-c++17 features?
15:35 < sipa> in theory, possibly
15:35 < sipa> but in practice, almost certainly yes, only an inscrutible wall of errors
15:36 < _aj_> well, it's still c++? :)
15:38 < sipa> if you're not familiar with concepts: e.g. you're instantiating an std::map with a type that doesn't have an operator<
15:38 < sipa> due to SFINAE, you don't get an error when instantiating the type, but in the call site where that actually is a problem (e.g. insertion), and then really the compiler error is just "i tried all of these things to make it work, but none work"
15:39 < sipa> with concepts, the type itself can get a compile-time constraint on properties its template parameters must have
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16:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] denis2342 closed pull request #23364: Add a test and optimize HexStr() by 27% (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23364
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16:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] denis2342 reopened pull request #23364: Add a test and optimize HexStr() by 27% (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23364
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20:03 < yanmaani> who moderates the bitcoin core list?
20:08 < sipa> the announcements list?
20:08 < yanmaani> no, the bitcoin-dev mailing list
20:08 < sipa> ah, that's not bitcoin core
20:08 < sipa> i don't actually know
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21:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #23360: Revert "build: fix ASLR for bitcoin-cli on Windows" (master...211026-win-aslr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23360
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23:26 < darosior> yanmaani: iirc it's RubenSomsen and kanzure, but probably not the right channel to discuss that
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