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04:11 < bodom> Hi there! I am trying to understand an hex scriptpubkey: "6a04665678a0" bitcoin core API decodes it into ASM as "OP_RETURN -544757350" but, to my understanding, it should be "OP_RETURN -1602726298". Where i am wrong? This is driving me crazy.
04:13 < bodom> -544757350 is 9aa987df to my understanding and i can't get where it is coming from
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04:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23408: fuzz: Rework ConsumeScript (master...2111-fuzzScript) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23408
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04:41 < bodom> finally realized it, thanks
04:41 < bodom> i was swapping one bit :D
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05:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23409: refactor: Take Span in SetSeed (master...2111-refKey) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23409
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06:03 < Guest9861> Hi, I'm wondering if anyone would be ready for a block size increase to 10mb?
06:04 < sturles> No
06:04 < sturles> (Why?)
06:04 < Guest9861> Okay, care to explain why?
06:04 < sturles> Why increase the block size?
06:04 < Guest9861> Well I figure that would allow everyone on earth roughly 1 transaction per year.
06:05 < sturles> Not if they want to run their own node..
06:06 < Guest9861> Could you elaborate? I don't see what effect running ones own node would have on transaction throughput.
06:07 < sturles> Because it would be too expensive to run a node.  The need for blockchain transactions is going down.  Most people on earth would use LN instead.
06:07 < Guest9861> Can I safely store bitcoin on LN long term?
06:08 < Guest9861> It just seems like during the next wave of adoption transaction fees are going to spike back up to $50
06:08 < sturles> Long enough.  Only a small fraction of earthlings would realistically be able to store a non-dust amount of BTC for the long term.
06:09 < Guest9861> Are you aware of the fact that the average earthling has a net worth of around $70k?
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06:10 < sturles> Are you aware of how this wealth is distributed?
06:11 < Guest9861> Checking one sec
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06:11 < Guest9861> okay so median is still about $7500
06:11 < sipa> off topic here
06:12 < sturles> Yep.
06:12 < Guest9861> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_wealth_per_adult
06:12 < Guest9861> Sorry sipa
06:12 < sipa> this channel is about development of the bitcoin core implementation
06:12 < Guest9861> I'm advocating for bigger blocks at some point
06:13 < Guest9861> Not necessarily now
06:13 < sipa> if you want to propose consensus changes, please get community consensus on it first, e.g. by discussing on the bitcoin-dev mailinglist
06:13 < sturles> The blocksize is currently not a bottleneck IMHO, and improvements are already beeing done with taproot and Schnorr signatures.
06:14 < sipa> please, take this elsewhere
06:14 < Guest9861> Okay thanks! I let you get back on topic now!
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06:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3fc3641043be...5adc5c02800f
06:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7986faf Hennadii Stepanov: test: Fix segfault in the psbt_wallet_tests/psbt_updater_test
06:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 68018e4 Hennadii Stepanov: test: Avoid excessive locking of `cs_wallet`
06:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5adc5c0 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23403: test: Fix segfault in the psbt_wallet_tests/p...
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06:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23403: test: Fix segfault in the psbt_wallet_tests/psbt_updater_test (master...210331-psbt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23403
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06:28 < josibake> is there a way to re-trigger a failed ci task? i am so far unable to reproduce a ci failure locally, so was hoping in the meanwhile to also retry the failed task on cirrus as a sanity check
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06:30 < josibake> ah, nvm, figured it out! just needed to be signed into cirrus-labs to see the re-run option
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06:41 < sipa> achow101: thoughts on what needs to be done to merge the LEGACY and P2SH_SEGWIT OutputType into a BASE58 OutputType?
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06:42 < sipa> for descriptor wallets, if it has an active descriptor for both, i'd say it can preferably pick the P2SH_SEGWIT one, and fall back to the LEGACY one, and turn that into the new BASE58 one
06:42 < sipa> not sure what's needed for legacy wallets
06:43 < sipa> can it just silently treat BASE58 as P2SH_SEGWIT was treated before?
06:46 < sipa> i'm kind of assuming it's leading to misconceptions like https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/459
06:48 < hebasto> sipa: is it a time to mention BIPs 380..386 in the https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/bips.md ?
06:49 < sipa> hebasto: i guess they should be
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07:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #23410: doc: Add output script descriptors BIPs 380..386 (master...211101-bips) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23410
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07:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23411: refactor: Avoid integer overflow in ApplyStats when activating snapshot (master...2111-fuzzIntAmt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23411
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08:57 < achow101> sipa: I think some legacy wallet users will still want to be able to get legacy addresses
08:58 < sipa> i don't see the point of maintaining that feature
09:01 < sipa> though, my issue is mostly with descriptor wallets
09:01 < sipa> in legacy wallets, the outputtype directly picks the derivation
09:02 < sipa> in descriptor wallets, i don't think there is a need for more than one active descriptor per addresstype (base58/bech32/bech32m), as the choice of which derivation is corresponds to is just wallet config
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09:04 < achow101> why not have BASE58 be a new output type entirely which will have its own active descriptor? If a wallet doesn't have a BASE58, then we can silently upgrade it by making p2sh-segwit the base58 one, with the fallback to legacy
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09:06 < sipa> that's probably easier
09:06 < achow101> for new wallets, we can not set active descriptors for p2sh-segwit and legacy, and for old wallets, not remove those records so they can be downgraded
09:09 < achow101> it might be even easier to just rename P2SH_SEGWIT as BASE58? and add that the active LEGACY descriptor can be BASE58 if there is not already one.
09:09 < achow101> that would even maintain partial downgradability
09:11 < sipa> you'd need some special rules about inferring outputtype from descriptors, where now both legacy and p2sh-segwit become valid for base58
09:12 < achow101> if (type == LEGACY) return BASE58
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09:16 < sipa> renaming p2sh-segwit to base58 also has this problem: what if you invoke `getnewaddress` with p2sh-segwit"
09:16 < sipa> as address type?
09:17 < achow101> perhaps alias then?
09:17 < sipa> if that still gets mapped to OutputType::BASE58, you get the following issue:
09:17 < sipa> in a descriptor wallet configured to have pkh() descriptor for base58, it'd return a P2PKH address, despite p2sh-segwit being requested
09:20 < achow101> are you planning on having getnewaddress still support legacy and p2sh-segwit output types?
09:21 < sipa> for descriptor wallets, there wouldn't be a need (especially not newly created ones)
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09:21 < sipa> i'm just pointing out that renaming P2SH_SEGWIT to BASE58 (but then still mapping the "p2sh-segwit" string to BASE58) can lead to unexpected behavior
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09:23 < achow101> ah
09:24 < achow101> I think it would be possible to limit the acceptable strings by wallet type
09:24 < achow101> e.g. p2sh-segwit and legacy are disallowed values for descriptor wallets
09:25 < sipa> yeah; but i think that's easier if BASE58 is a separate output type from P2SH_SEGWIT and LEGACY
09:26 < achow101> ok
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13:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #23413: Replace MakeSpan helper with Span deduction guide (master...202111_span_deduct) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23413
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18:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] zealsham opened pull request #23414: wallet: Fixed Grammatical error in bdb.h (master...wallet-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23414
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22:43 < fanquake> wumpus / sipa: can you block philetran
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