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00:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cf63d635b168...d0923098c692
00:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8f60e MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: Move minisketchwrapper to src/node
00:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faba1ab MarcoFalke: Sort file list after rename
00:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d092309 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23491: scripted-diff: Move minisketchwrapper to src/...
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00:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23491: scripted-diff: Move minisketchwrapper to src/node (master...2111-libNode) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23491
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00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d0923098c692...ad09c287cb70
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fafa66e MarcoFalke: ci: Replace soon EOL hirsute with jammy
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ad09c28 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23504: ci: Replace soon EOL hirsute with jammy
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00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #23504: ci: Replace soon EOL hirsute with jammy (master...2111-ciJammy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23504
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00:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23524: doc: Fix typos in endif header comments (master...2111-libNode) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23524
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03:41 < b10c> lightlike: theStack: RE peer_id = 0 and message size = 1
03:42 < b10c> I'm using bpftrace v0.12.1 and peer_id and message size seem to be correct (at least not 0 and 1)
03:43 < b10c> that said, there have been at least one or two reports of problems with older bpftrace versions
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04:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23525: doc: Pick better named args for MutableTransactionSignatureCreator (master...2111-docMutableTransactionSignatureCreator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23525
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05:05 < theStack> b10c: okay thanks, will try with a newer version later (apparently a lot of bugs have been fixed from v0.11.3 to v0.12: https://github.com/iovisor/bpftrace/releases/tag/v0.12.0)
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09:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23528: doc: Move internal dev docs to doc/devel/ (master...2111-docDevel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23528
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12:10 < michaelfolkson> MarcoFalke: Why did you change the file name of developer-notes.md to dev-notes.md? Seems unnecessary. Just introduce a directory, no need to do unnecessary file name changes?
12:11 < shiza> hold developer-notes, is what people is expecting
12:12 < michaelfolkson> Right, I'm really trying not to nit but it is hard lol 
12:12 < michaelfolkson> That seems a no brainer though. Keep the file names intact
12:12 < shiza> at least for several months
12:13 < michaelfolkson> I don't think there's any upside to rename files unless they are terribly named
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12:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Mr-Leshiy opened pull request #23530: New regtest GB (master...new-regtest-gb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23530
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12:15 < shiza> Best maintain the full length "developers" or remove it completely if it is under "developer/"
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12:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Mr-Leshiy closed pull request #23530: New regtest GB (master...new-regtest-gb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23530
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12:21 < michaelfolkson> shiza: Feel free to add your nits to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23529 like I've done. Marco is free to ignore there if he wants
12:22 < michaelfolkson> Not a criticism of Marco, there are always going to be nits for something like this whoever does it
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12:38 < shiza> lol
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12:48 < shiza> no time for nits :D
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12:51 < Eigengrau> hi everyone, does anyone know where i can find the discussions and how to approval de BIP´s?
12:52 < sipa> read BIP2
12:52 < sipa> (and its predecessor BIP1)
12:52 < Eigengrau> ah ok thanks
12:53 < sipa> in short: BIPs are just documents people publish; they aren't approved - people choose to implement them, or not
12:54 < Eigengrau> but how its finally published by btc core?
12:54 < sipa> bitcoin core is just one implementation
12:55 < sipa> its developers and maintainers choose what to implement
12:55 < sipa> not all BIPs are implemented by bitcoin core, and not all are intended to
12:56 < Eigengrau> and where i can find the others?
12:56 < sipa> here is the list of the ones implemented in Bitcoin Core: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/bips.md
12:58 < sipa> the BIP repo itself is https://github.com/bitcoin/bips
12:59 < sipa> (they are under the same organizations for historical reasons only; there are separate maintainers/editors etc(
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13:02 < Eigengrau> ok, and how i can participate in the organization? or its a close one?
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13:03 < sipa> BIPs are usually discussed on the bitcoin-dev mailinglist, https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev
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13:04 < sipa> but again, BIPs are just ways for people to publish ideas; the procedure for creating one is in BIP2
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13:04 < Eigengrau> ok
13:04 < sipa> the procedure does not in any way guarantee that every BIP is a good idea
13:05 < sipa> they're literally just ideas that have followed the BIP procedure, and otherwise the author decides whatever is in it
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13:06 < Eigengrau> so its posible that a BIP is a bad idea and stil gets approved?
13:07 < sipa> there is no "approval"
13:07 < sipa> BIPs are just published ideas
13:07 < sipa> what people do with them is up to them
13:07 < sipa> (there are editorial requirements for a BIP to be published, but that doesn't mean it's approved or accepted or anything)
13:08 < sipa> this is probably off-topic here, though
13:08 < sipa> this channel is about development of the Bitcoin Core software
13:09 < Eigengrau> i mean in bitocin core, like taproot, which is on in his official page, on bitcoin.org
13:09 < Eigengrau> bitcoin*
13:09 < sipa> bitcoin has no official anything
13:10 < sipa> taproot was a softfork idea that was published as a BIP, and later accepted for implementation into Bitcoin Core, when its maintainers and contributors found it likely enough that the ecosystem would adopt it
13:10 < sipa> (disclaimer, i'm biased, because i'm one of the co-authors of BIPs 340,341,342)
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13:12 < sipa> for generic info about bitcoin core's development policy around this: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/CONTRIBUTING.md#decision-making-process
13:12 < Eigengrau> how many users of the entire bitcoin network does bitcoin core use?
13:12 < sipa> i don't understand your question
13:12 < Eigengrau> sorry my english is very bad
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13:13 < Eigengrau> i mean, what is the % of bitocin core users, comparing with the whole network?
13:14 < Eigengrau> bitcoin*
13:15 < sipa> that's hard to say; there are many different kinds of nodes/wallets in the network
13:16 < sipa> among full nodes (ones that fully validate everything), bitcoin core is by far the most common one
13:16 < sipa> but there are many others, and in terms of wallet users, bitcoin core is probably only a minority
13:17 < sipa> (also, hard numbers are different, because there is no way of counting wallets, or their type)
13:17 < sipa> *difficult
13:17 < Eigengrau> is there any place where i can consult that information?
13:18 < sipa> there are sites that track statistics
13:18 < sipa> but this is getting really off-topic
13:18 < sipa> i suggest searching https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com or other sites like reddit/bitcointalk/...
13:19 < Eigengrau> ok, sorry for ask you this here, thanks for all the information
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16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa44237 MarcoFalke: doc: Fix typos in endif header comments
16:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4a7f6e0 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23524: doc: Fix typos in endif header comments
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16:07 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dbfca4a fanquake: build: require glibc 2.18+ for release builds
16:07 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5b93e65 fanquake: build: remove D__STDC_FORMAT_MACROS from CPPFLAGS
16:07 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6bde42e fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23511: release: require glibc 2.18+
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16:14 < hebasto> \o/
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16:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa45922 MarcoFalke: ci: Rework ci task names
16:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7be37ee fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23520: ci: Rework ci task names (take 3)
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17:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b575f1 Russell Yanofsky: Improve fs::PathToString documentation
17:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b869a78 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23522: Improve fs::PathToString documentation
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18:28 < kallewoof> Probably known already, but Ubuntu 18 currently breaks on compiling when building master because gcc/g++ is too old.  (As opposed to ./configure erroring with a 'compiler too old' message)
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18:50 < sipa> hmm
18:53 < fanquake> We could make the issue more obvious at configure time. kallewoof: I assume you're installing and using GCC 8, which is available on 18.04
18:54 < fanquake> clang on bionic will work too
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18:58 < kallewoof> fanquake: I did apt upgrade and re-tried and it failed, so now upgraded to 20
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19:08 < kallewoof> fwiw the error is when trying to include <charconv> which is too new apparently.
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20:59 < luke-jr> GCC 8 should work..?
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21:09 < fanquake> It does work
21:10 < fanquake> we use it in our CI along with Clang 7
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21:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #23534: wallet: Allow negtive effective value inputs when subtracting fee from outputs (master...no-change-fee-w-sffo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23534
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21:20 < kallewoof> GCC 8.1, to be precise.  I already upgraded to latest distro one and I think it was at 7.5.0. Either way, it works now that I upgraded to 20.
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22:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa74d45 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Add minisketch fuzz test
22:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cb2392c MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23496: fuzz: Add minisketch fuzz test
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22:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23496: fuzz: Add minisketch fuzz test (master...2111-fuzzMiniSketch) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23496
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23:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cb2392c5fbd8...398fd63356db
23:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa54a40 MarcoFalke: doc: Pick better named args for MutableTransactionSignatureCreator
23:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 398fd63 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23525: doc: Pick better named args for MutableTransa...
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23:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23525: doc: Pick better named args for MutableTransactionSignatureCreator (master...2111-docMutableTransactionSignatureCreator) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23525
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