--- Log opened Thu Nov 18 00:00:36 2021
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00:18 < jonasschnelli> Our (Bitcoin Core Code Signing Association) Apple Developer Programm (ability to code sign) will expire in 11days. I just extended the program for another year.
00:18 < jonasschnelli> I'll hand over the credentials to fanquake (maybe he has already access)
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00:19 < fanquake> Yes I’m already a member of that Apple Developer account
00:20 < jonasschnelli> Perfect. Maybe dbl-check if you can login (2FA) and if you have admin rights
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00:25 < fanquake> Just checked that I can login. Currently have the admin role
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00:31 < jonasschnelli> fanquake: perfect.
00:31 < jonasschnelli> I keep my user as a backup
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00:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wu-emma opened pull request #23541: Tx fee burn prototype (master...prototype/burn-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23541
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00:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] wu-emma closed pull request #23541: Tx fee burn prototype (master...prototype/burn-fee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23541
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02:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #23542: net: open p2p connections to nodes that listen on non-default ports (master...connect_to_any_port) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23542
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05:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] anouarkappitou opened pull request #23543: script: preventing non-compatible sed binary. (master...improve-scripted-diff-check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23543
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08:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #23544: rpc, wallet: addhdseed, infer seed when importing descriptor with xpub  (master...2021/11/no_descriptors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23544
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11:00 < laanwj> #startmeeting
11:00 < core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Nov 18 19:00:14 2021 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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11:00 < achow101> hi
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11:00 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball
11:00 < laanwj> morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
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11:01 < michaelfolkson> hi
11:01 < jeremyrubin> Hi
11:01 < kanzure> hi
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11:01 < laanwj> no pre-proposed meeting topics for this week
11:01 < laanwj> any last minute ones?
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11:01 < larryruane> hi
11:03 < sipa> hi
11:03 < provoostenator> hi
11:03 < jb55> hi
11:03 < jeremyrubin> I can't stick around but maybe burying by height or Genesis with one block exception for taproot is a good topic 
11:04 < sipa> also, maybe #23542 is interesting
11:04 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23542 | net: open p2p connections to nodes that listen on non-default ports by vasild · Pull Request #23542 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:04 < provoostenator> (insert pun about burrying roots)
11:04 < laanwj> burying taproot deployment would definitely be a sensible topic
11:05 < jeremyrubin> (leaving now, but I like the exception version but would change my mind if there's something compelling)
11:06 < michaelfolkson> Relevant PR: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23505
11:06 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
11:06 < core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
11:07 < laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8   -- at the moment, 11 blockers, 1 chasing concept ACK
11:07 < laanwj> anything to add, remove, or that is almost ready for merge?
11:08 < sipa> i'm working on reviewing #16807
11:08 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16807 | Let validateaddress locate error in Bech32 address by meshcollider · Pull Request #16807 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:09 < michaelfolkson> Maybe add #16807 to the wallet meeting discussion topics tomorrow
11:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/16807 | Let validateaddress locate error in Bech32 address by meshcollider · Pull Request #16807 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:09 < laanwj> i intend to look at that PR too
11:10 < michaelfolkson> Seems like a no brainer
11:10 < sipa> concept, sure, but i'd still like to review the code :)
11:11 < laanwj> 8 files changed, of which 2 tests
11:11 < michaelfolkson> Yeah surprised it hasn't got in earlier
11:12 < laanwj> it has quite a lot of not yet addressed comments
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11:13 < laanwj> nothing else for high prio?
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11:14 < laanwj> #topic Burying taproot (jeremyrubin)
11:14 < core-meetingbot> topic: Burying taproot (jeremyrubin)
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11:15  * gene shuffles in quietly
11:15 < laanwj> (if anyone wants to discuss this, it's a bit weird to propose topics then leave)
11:15 < b10c> hi
11:15 < sipa> concept ack on burying taproot, especially given the depth of its activation already
11:16 < sipa> there are two PRs with vaguely related changes about this; i think the details can be discussed there
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11:16 < michaelfolkson> The discussion is whether it should be genesis minus a single block versus from the block directly aftewards that single block?
11:17 < sipa> that's the discussion on one of the PRs
11:17 < michaelfolkson> What's the other relevant PR number?
11:17 < michaelfolkson> #23505 and...
11:17 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23505 | Bury taproot deployment by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #23505 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:17 < sipa> #23536
11:17 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23536 | Enforce Taproot script flags whenever WITNESS is set by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #23536 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:18 < michaelfolkson> Thanks
11:18 < michaelfolkson> Excluding a single block seems intuitively a bit strange to me
11:18 < michaelfolkson> But need to read the discussion
11:18 < luke-jr> we already have exceptions
11:19 < michaelfolkson> For a single block with blocks either side treated differently?
11:19 < luke-jr> yes
11:19 < michaelfolkson> Hmm interesting. Example?
11:19 < sipa> bip30 and bip34 have exceptions
11:19 < luke-jr> look up fEnforceBIP30
11:19 < sipa> michaelfolkson: you could read the code
11:20 < michaelfolkson> Ok
11:20 < achow101> the PR follows the existing BIP16Exception cde
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11:20 < luke-jr> I do think using heights is cleaner, but idk
11:20 < provoostenator> For anyone inspecting the code it's trivial to reason that no real taproot violation took place in that particular block, because it wasn't activated yet.
11:21 < provoostenator> For all the other blocks, the node checks.
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11:22 < provoostenator> To review the PR, just sync the chain, and maybe do it again without the block exception.
11:23 < luke-jr> could always do height && hash to make it even more trivial to review
11:27 < laanwj> next topic?
11:27 < sipa> sure
11:27 < laanwj> #topic P2P connections on non-default ports (sipa)
11:27 < core-meetingbot> topic: P2P connections on non-default ports (sipa)
11:28 < laanwj> #23542
11:28 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23542 | net: open p2p connections to nodes that listen on non-default ports by vasild · Pull Request #23542 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:29 < michaelfolkson> BIP 30 seems interesting, didn't know anything about it :)
11:29 < sipa> just wanted to briefly bring this up
11:29 < sipa> as it's a pretty significant change
11:29 < sipa> bitcoin core has traditionally (since satoshi times) shied away from connecting out to non-8333 ports, for a number of (preumwed) reasons
11:30 < sipa> but i'm of the opinion that those reasons aren't very relevant anymore, and there are potential privacy/censorship gains to permitting arbitrary ports
11:30 < sipa> plus, not much code changes are needed
11:30 < achow101> what were the presumed reasons?
11:31 < sipa> one is DoS resistance... e.g. a concern that someone could rumour a popular existing TCP/IP service on the network, and have the bitcoin nodes DoS it
11:31 < michaelfolkson> "The folklore justification (eventually actually added as a comment to the codebase in #20668) is that this is to prevent the Bitcoin P2P network from being leveraged to perform a DoS attack on other services, if their IP/port would get rumoured."
11:31 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20668 | doc: warn that incoming conns are unlikely when not using default ports by adamjonas · Pull Request #20668 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:32 < michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23306#issue-761048149
11:32 < sipa> michaelfolkson: thanks, exactly that
11:32 < sipa> the other reason is a concern about partition resistance (someone could pretend to be 100s of nodes by rumouring their IP with different ports, all listening on the same interface)
11:33 < sipa> this latter concern hasn't existed since addrman i think, which buckets per network group already, so limits the impact of many IP addresses in close ranges already
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11:33 < sipa> there are some open questions i think on how exactly to do that, e.g. which ports to allow, how it interacts with e.g. plans for hiding/encrypting traffic, ... but that can be discussed on the PR, which vasild seems to have opened
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11:36 < sipa> not sure there's much more to say about it without the PR author here :)
11:37 < michaelfolkson> practicalswift's suggestion just to copy browsers' bad ports seems reasonable
11:37 < michaelfolkson> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23306#issuecomment-947516736
11:37 < michaelfolkson> Anyone else decides on bad ports?
11:37 < michaelfolkson> But yeah can be discussed on the PR
11:39 < laanwj> ok, i think it was good to discuss this anyhow, so that people are more aware of this potential change to behavior
11:39 < sipa> right
11:40 < laanwj> #endmeeting
11:40 < core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
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11:40 < core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-11-18-19.00.moin.txt
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12:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23546: scripted-diff: Use clang-tidy syntax for C++ named arguments (tests only) (master...2111-testClangTidy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23546
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12:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #23547: Bugfix: RPC/mining: Fail properly in estimatesmartfee if smart fee data is unavailable (master...fix_rpc_estimatesmartfee_nodata) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23547
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13:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jamesob opened pull request #23549: Add scanblocks RPC call (attempt 2) (master...2021-11-scanblocks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23549
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17:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dhruv closed pull request #23550: #23432 CI (master...__bip324-ellsq) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23550
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18:34 < Guest4> Hi. Is there any valid I2P address to connect to ? I am getting the error "I2P: Error connecting to wwbw7nqr3ahkqv62cuqfwgtneekvvpnuc4i4f6yo7tpoqjswvcwa.b32.i2p:0: Unexpected reply to "NAMING LOOKUP NAME=wwbw7nqr3ahkqv62cuqfwgtneekvvpnuc4i4f6yo7tpoqjswvcwa.b32.i2p": "NAMING REPLY RESULT=INVALID_KEY
18:34 < Guest4> NAME=wwbw7nqr3ahkqv62cuqfwgtneekvvpnuc4i4f6yo7tpoqjswvcwa.b32.i2p" when trying to connect to any node in nodes_main.txt (https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/contrib/seeds/nodes_main.txt).
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