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Also, it reduces harrassment of people's inbox that left a comment on a thread more than two years ago. 05:59 < MarcoFalke> *threads 06:01 < jnewbery> MarcoFalke: ACK. Seems like a good policy. Please thank drahtbot for beings so active on issue/pr management :) 06:02 < MarcoFalke> Drahty will get some nice carrots for new years 06:03 -!- jamesob [~jamesob@pool-108-31-54-223.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:08 < sipa> MarcoFalke: sounds good to me 06:09 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/df6e961c417b...6b212cbbb9d7 06:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aeeccd9 Martin Zumsande: test: Fix intermittent issue in p2p_addr_relay.py 06:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 261dddb Martin Zumsande: test: Combine addr generation helper functions 06:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6b212cb MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23720: test: Refactor addr_relay.py addr generation,... 06:09 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 06:09 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23720: test: Refactor addr_relay.py addr generation, increase mocktime (master...202112_test_addrrelay) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23720 06:09 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 06:14 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6b212cbbb9d7...8c0bd871fcf6 06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa3d62c MarcoFalke: Move FindForkInGlobalIndex from BlockManager to CChainState 06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa47b5c MarcoFalke: Move AcceptBlockHeader to ChainstateManager 06:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master facd213 MarcoFalke: Move m_failed_blocks to ChainstateManager 06:14 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 06:15 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23785: refactor: Move stuff to ChainstateManager (master...2112-moveCMan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23785 06:15 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 06:15 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@user/sdfgsdfg] has quit [Quit: ZzzZ] 06:29 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:36 -!- bomb-on [~bomb-on@194.144.47.113] has quit [Quit: aллилѹіа!] 06:39 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:42 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:43 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:45 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:45 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has quit [Quit: 💙] 06:46 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:50 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:51 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has quit [Client Quit] 06:52 -!- jtrag [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:53 -!- jespada [~jespada@87.74.33.157] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 06:53 -!- jespada [~jespada@87.74.33.157] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:03 -!- jtrag is now known as Guest7615 07:03 -!- jtrag_ [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:05 -!- jtrag_ is now known as jtrag 07:06 -!- Guest7615 [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:07 -!- mikehu44 [~quassel@gateway/vpn/pia/mikehu44-jc] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:17 < laanwj> MarcoFalke: ACK, assuming you mean closed issues and PRs 07:17 < MarcoFalke> jup, closed ones 07:22 < laanwj> great! 07:24 -!- b10c [uid500648@id-500648.ilkley.irccloud.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:24 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #23795: refactor: Remove implicit-integer-sign-change suppressions in validation (master...2112-refValSup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23795 07:24 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 07:25 -!- b10c 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Meeting started Thu Dec 16 19:00:02 2021 UTC. The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings. 11:00 < core-meetingbot> Available commands: action commands idea info link nick 11:00 < achow101> hi 11:00 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball 11:00 < hebasto> hi 11:00 < laanwj> morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild 11:00 < kvaciral[m]> hi 11:00 < jb55> hi 11:00 < jamesob> hi 11:00 < jamesob> wow, thursday already 11:00 < laanwj> welcome to what i guess is the last general IRC meeting of 2021 11:00 < michaelfolkson> hi 11:00 < luke-jr> hi 11:00 < ariard> hi 11:00 < sipa> hi 11:01 < fjahr> hi 11:01 < b10c> hi 11:01 < lightlike> hi 11:01 < laanwj> there haven't been any pre-proposed meeting topics (use #proposedmeetingtopic during any time of the week) 11:01 < laanwj> any last minute one? 11:02 < achow101> suggested topic: wallet maintainer 11:02 < jonatack> hi 11:02 < luke-jr> achow101: are you volunteering? :P 11:02 < achow101> yes 11:02 < laanwj> jamesob: yeah time flies when you're having-- well, time flies anyway 11:02 < cfields_> hi 11:03 < jamesob> laanwj: haha 11:03 < jb55> achow101 it is then, that was easy 11:03 < luke-jr> laanwj: lol 11:03 -!- arythmetic [~arythmeti@2607:fea8:85c1:db00:91ca:42ff:4987:327] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:03 < michaelfolkson> That was too easy. NACK to achow101 11:03 < laanwj> #topic Wallet maintainer 11:03 < core-meetingbot> topic: Wallet maintainer 11:03 < MarcoFalke> jamesob is having a rebase party (fun) 11:03 < michaelfolkson> jokez 11:03 < luke-jr> x.x 11:04 < jamesob> MarcoFalke: how did you know?? ;) 11:04 -!- arythmetic [~arythmeti@2607:fea8:85c1:db00:91ca:42ff:4987:327] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:04 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:04 < luke-jr> I need to have a rebase party too soon :x 11:04 < MarcoFalke> jamesob: I can hear your keyboard 11:04 < jamesob> lol 11:04 < laanwj> hahaha 11:05 < jamesob> nope, that's just PTSD from _actually_ hearing my keyboard two years ago 11:05 < luke-jr> ._. 11:05 < jb55> rebase party sounds fun but I might have too many conflicts 11:05 < cfields_> lol 11:06 < MarcoFalke> achow101: Looks like there are no objections. Just promise to merge no bugs, ok? 11:06 < laanwj> ok, on topic, ack to achow101 wallet maintainer 11:06 < cfields_> ack 11:06 < jb55> ack 11:06 < michaelfolkson> ACK 11:06 < ariard> ack 11:06 < fjahr> ack 11:06 < luke-jr> should probably post to ML first, but SGTM 11:06 < jamesob> ack achow 11:06 < laanwj> no, this is a project decision, not a ML decision 11:06 < luke-jr> (or not since it's just a Core internal thing idk) 11:06 < b10c> ach ackow101 11:06 < laanwj> luke-jr: right 11:06 < sipa> ack 11:06 < jonatack> ACK modulo no bugs :p 11:06 < luke-jr> laanwj: right, but some people might not be here 11:06 < jamesob> b10c: god bless you 11:06 < achow101> MarcoFalke: those aren't bugs, they're features :p 11:07 < MarcoFalke> jup bitcoin-core-dev is only for releases 11:07 < laanwj> luke-jr: we'll not immediately assign it so other people have time to comment 11:07 < kvaciral[m]> ack 11:07 < MarcoFalke> There will also be a pull request, which people can comment on 11:07 < laanwj> it's not an actual decision in the meeting just an oppertunity to bring up objections 11:07 < laanwj> right 11:08 < luke-jr> MarcoFalke: good point 11:08 < MarcoFalke> I expect that pull to be open for a week at least, maybe longer because holidays? 11:08 < laanwj> yeah 11:09 < achow101> i'll open it after the meeting then 11:10 < sipa> sgtm 11:10 < laanwj> oh github has something new, if you click projects you get "projects (beta)" which doesn't actually have the projects... was afraid for a moment they were all gone 11:10 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review 11:10 < core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review 11:11 < MarcoFalke> can I haz ACK/NACK on #23411 ? 11:11 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23411 | refactor: Avoid integer overflow in ApplyStats when activating snapshot by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #23411 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:11 < jamesob> will look 11:11 < achow101> #22558 for me 11:11 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22558 | psbt: Taproot fields for PSBT by achow101 · Pull Request #22558 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:11 < laanwj> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8 7 blockers, 1 chasing concept ACK 11:12 < jonatack> review beg for #22932, up since 3 months, has (drum roll...) one concept ack (thanks promag!) 11:12 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22932 | Guard CBlockIndex::nStatus by cs_main, require GetBlockPos/GetUndoPos to hold cs_main by jonatack · Pull Request #22932 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:12 < laanwj> MarcoFalke: achow101: added 11:13 < jamesob> jonatack: will look 11:13 < jonatack> jamesob: thank you 11:13 < laanwj> jonatack: some people seem to be confused why it's necessary, was my conclusion from the comments 11:13 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:13 < fjahr> I would like to re-add #21726 but I am still working on a rebase, so I can ask again but it should be ready later tonight 11:13 < jonatack> laanwj: good point. I rewrote the OP to state the issue, the fixes, and how to review/test it 11:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21726 | Improve Indices on pruned nodes via prune blockers by fjahr · Pull Request #21726 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:13 < MarcoFalke> I've removed #21702 from hi-prio 11:14 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21702 | Implement BIP-119 Validation (CheckTemplateVerify) by JeremyRubin · Pull Request #21702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:14 < laanwj> jonatack: thanks! 11:14 < michaelfolkson> #22674 will be reverted? If it is that will need to go back into high prio 11:14 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22674 | validation: mempool validation and submission for packages of 1 child + parents by glozow · Pull Request #22674 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:15 < laanwj> fjahr: added 11:15 < jamesob> MarcoFalke: just on the basis that you think e.g. ML discussion, "consensus gathering" is needed first? 11:15 < fjahr> laanwj: thanks! 11:15 < MarcoFalke> also removed #21160 11:15 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21160 | net/net processing: Move tx inventory into net_processing by jnewbery · Pull Request #21160 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:15 < ariard> michaelfolkson: i think that's good enough if past reviwers re-ack, will review back this evening 11:15 < MarcoFalke> jamesob: No, see my comment on the pull 11:15 < michaelfolkson> ariard: Ok 11:16 < MarcoFalke> hi-prio for review doesn't make a lot of sense when the pull can't be reviewed due to needing rebase 11:16 < laanwj> MarcoFalke: i guess jnewbery isn't going to get around to it for the forseeable future? should we mark it up for grabs? 11:17 < sipa> Let's perhaps leave that question up to him. 11:17 < jonatack> (correction, the pull i mentioned has two concept acks by promag and MarcoFalke) 11:17 < laanwj> sipa: yes, good point 11:18 < laanwj> any other PRs? any other topics? 11:18 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: the idea is to revert one of the commits, not the entire PR 11:18 < luke-jr> achow101: please don't drop BDB support any time soon tho :P 11:19 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: see #23793 11:19 < jamesob> death to BDB 11:19 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23793 | validation: Revert "de-duplicate package transactions already in mempool" by laanwj · Pull Request #23793 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:19 < sipa> i wish BDB a painful, but very slow, death 11:19 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: but according to achow101 it's unreachable anyway 11:20 < luke-jr> XD 11:20 < laanwj> in any case reverting the entire seems unnecessary, most of the commits did have extensive review, it was only that one that didn't 11:20 -!- jtrag__ is now known as jtrag 11:20 < ariard> yeah it's not used currently, submitpackage rpc hasn't been yet introduced afaik, though critical path for future package relay support 11:21 < achow101> if it were reachable, i would recommend revert because there's a crashing bug, but it's not reachable, so meh 11:21 < michaelfolkson> laanwj: Gotcha, thanks. Have you ever thought of giving advance warning that you're intending to merge something? I've always wondered that 11:21 < michaelfolkson> Something like "I think this is ready for merge. Intending to merge in say 3 days" 11:21 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: i do that sometimes 11:21 < michaelfolkson> Ah ok 11:22 < luke-jr> these issues are rare enough that reverting when there's a problem is probably a better approach IMO 11:22 < laanwj> i made mistake here 11:23 < michaelfolkson> It has secondary effect of being like "last orders" or "last chance to review before merging" 11:23 < MarcoFalke> laanwj: I think mistakes are impossible to avoid in general 11:23 < laanwj> luke-jr: it only makes sense for extensive or somewhat controversial PRs, not for run of the mill ones 11:23 < MarcoFalke> I've merged silent merge conflicts twice in the last week or so 11:23 < michaelfolkson> But maybe it has downsides, I don't know. I guess the author would generally prefer immediate merging to avoid need for more rebases 11:23 < luke-jr> laanwj: right 11:24 < MarcoFalke> They are just too hard to catch while merging 11:24 < jamesob> merge-freezes and plenty of testing before releases are the only saving graces afaict 11:24 < laanwj> MarcoFalke: yes that happens often enough to me too, usually my local build catches them but it's impossible to run for every platform combo 11:25 < MarcoFalke> I'll experiment with DrahtBot re-running the CI on weekends 11:25 < MarcoFalke> There is less "real" traffic on weekends 11:25 < laanwj> that would be useful 11:25 < luke-jr> btw, any reason not to set `greedy` in Cirrus CI stuff? 11:26 < sipa> greedy? 11:26 < luke-jr> and bump up the -j 11:26 < MarcoFalke> luke-jr: Sure, go for it 11:26 < luke-jr> sipa: lets the VM use more CPU if it's idle 11:26 < sipa> oh, cool 11:26 < luke-jr> MarcoFalke: k 11:26 < MarcoFalke> sipa: If there is idle CPU on the host it will consume it, even if less CPU was requested 11:26 < laanwj> thanks to ariard for doing another review round and catching it anyhow 11:27 < MarcoFalke> https://medium.com/cirruslabs/introducing-greedy-container-instances-29aad06dc2b4 11:27 < sipa> got it... the only reason you wouldn't want greedy is when you're doing benchmarks i assume... 11:27 < MarcoFalke> Oh, and we should be cautious about OOM 11:28 < luke-jr> hmm 11:28 < MarcoFalke> If there is too many CPUs running msan, it will crash the whole VM 11:28 < laanwj> benchmarks and too-tight timeouts 11:28 < MarcoFalke> memory isn't assigned in greedy 11:28 < sipa> right 11:28 < luke-jr> MarcoFalke: how about bumping that one job to 8 CPUs / 32 GB RAM? 11:29 < MarcoFalke> There is a pool of CPUs that can be used. If one task uses a lot, then other tasks will be scheduled later 11:29 < MarcoFalke> Most efficient scheduling (I think) is to use least amount of CPU per task, but many tasks in parallel 11:29 < hebasto> ^ agree 11:30 < MarcoFalke> Or, if someone has a credit card with unlimited money, we could use that 11:30 < MarcoFalke> Maybe 40k-110k per year or so 11:30 < luke-jr> could turn off greedy for that one task then I guess 11:30 < sipa> Well there is a constant cost (at least cloning repo / configure scripts) which don't run multithreaded. 11:31 < sipa> Which puts a limit on how much splitting things up makes sense. 11:32 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:32 < MarcoFalke> sipa: Jup, that's why the least amount of number of CPUs is the most efficient (highest total CPU usage) 11:33 < laanwj> multithreaded configure sounds pretty cursed 11:33 < luke-jr> laanwj: eh, in theory it sounds easy (in practice, tho..) 11:34 < laanwj> think of the dependency graph :-) 11:34 < sipa> Yes, and in theory, there is no difference between theory and practice; in practice however... 11:34 < luke-jr> XD 11:34 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #23797: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available (master...cirrus_greedy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23797 11:34 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:35 < MarcoFalke> Most of the time only one CPU is used: https://cirrus-ci.com/task/4949915049656320 11:35 < MarcoFalke> So I am not sure how much greedy helps us 11:35 < laanwj> hehe 11:35 < luke-jr> MarcoFalke: I guess we'll see when Cirrus does the PR's CI 11:36 < laanwj> right 11:36 < sipa> For the functional tests, I've found that (with enough RAM) running more tests in parallel than your number of CPU cores is beneficial. 11:36 < luke-jr> hmm, maybe -j60 or something for the tests would be more time-saving? 11:36 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:36 < sipa> Because the tests spend a lot of time waiting. 11:36 < MarcoFalke> another option would be to use self-hosted machines (#21652) 11:36 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21652 | [WIP NOMERGE DRAFT] ci: Switch more tasks to self-hosted by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #21652 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:37 < MarcoFalke> luke-jr: No, there is one unit test that takes a long time. It will block a single CPU 11:37 < luke-jr> I've found if I forget to specify -j64, builds take a looong time :x 11:37 < jonatack> -j 4 or 5 here :D 11:37 < MarcoFalke> sipa: Right, CI uses 2x or 4x the -j of the number of CPUs available 11:38 < b10c> where / who runs the self hosted CI runners? 11:38 < laanwj> jonatack: same 11:38 < MarcoFalke> b10c: Drahty right now 11:38 < hebasto> b10c: bitcoinbuilds.org 11:38 < MarcoFalke> sipa: For example https://cirrus-ci.com/task/4949915049656320 has two CPUs and "MAKEJOBS:-j4" env var 11:39 < MarcoFalke> hebasto: That is a separate CI system 11:39 < sipa> It has 2 CPUs, or 2 CPU threads? 11:39 < hebasto> MarcoFalke: right 11:39 < MarcoFalke> 2 CPU threads 11:39 < sipa> As in: how many entries would /proc/cpuinfo show? 11:39 < sipa> Ok. 11:39 < MarcoFalke> aka vCPU 11:40 < MarcoFalke> For example https://cirrus-ci.com/task/6075814956498944 is run by Drahty 11:40 < sipa> For make I wouldn't go above the actual thread count. But for the functional_test runner you can go significantly above it. 11:40 < MarcoFalke> env var: "worker:DrahtBot-small-cpx21-ci-bb-001" 11:40 < michaelfolkson> c-lightning has been having CI problems due to tests taking up a lot of memory https://btctranscripts.com/c-lightning/2021-11-29-developer-call/#ci-problems. Core tests generally use less memory and so haven't experienced same problems? 11:40 < laanwj> jonatack: i have way too many computers but not one with >8 cores or enough memory for -j64 :) 11:40 < jonatack> sipa: added the "-j60 tip for running the functional tests to https://jonatack.github.io/articles/how-to-compile-bitcoin-core-and-run-the-tests (near the end) but increased -j for this never worked well for me 11:41 < luke-jr> michaelfolkson: eh, Cirrus allows up to 32 GB RAM O.o 11:41 < jonatack> laanwj: yes, those purisms don't have many 11:41 < MarcoFalke> sipa: I think there is no downside using a higher -j (if you have enough memory) 11:41 < jonatack> sipa: (with 32go RAM) 11:41 < sipa> jonattack: well, benchmark on your own system which amount works best. I imagine it's a complex function of cpu / diskspeed etc. 11:41 < luke-jr> laanwj: mine is only 16 cores, but they're SMT4 11:42 < laanwj> jonatack: right, neither do ARM and RV boards for that matter 11:42 < b10c> MarcoFalke: thanks, so hetzner cloud (based on cpx21) 11:42 < MarcoFalke> b10c: heh, right 11:42 < _aj_> jonatack: test_runner.py -j 24 # works pretty well for me with 16GB; usually get one spurious failure though 11:42 < laanwj> luke-jr: ye that helps 11:43 < jonatack> i do have to use timeout-factor tho, otherwise a few tests time out frequently (rpc_misc mostly, then feature_blockfilterindex_prune and feature_assumevalid) 11:43 < sipa> I/O speed matters a lot too. 11:44 < laanwj> the way around that is to mount /tmp as tmpfs 11:44 < jonatack> maybe my disk encryption doesn't help matters 11:44 < jonatack> aj: nice 11:44 < laanwj> or at least, whatever temp directory you use for the functional tests 11:44 < _aj_> jonatack: (/tmp is on ssd) 11:45 < luke-jr> laanwj: I have a zram :p 11:45 < luke-jr> not sure I can recommend it though, as it seems Linux is buggy 11:45 < luke-jr> (the zram's ext4 fs gets corrupted sometimes) 11:46 < MarcoFalke> I also use tmpfs for /tmp 11:46 < laanwj> TIL about zram 11:46 < sipa> same 11:47 < laanwj> i guess that concludes the topic? let's see what #23797 does 11:47 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23797 | ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available by luke-jr · Pull Request #23797 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 11:48 < luke-jr> also handy for putting swap on 11:48 < luke-jr> (haven't noticed any swap-zram issues, so I'm guessing the mentioned bugs are probably ext4) 11:49 < laanwj> i don't think it makes sense to do a meeting next week (dec 23th) or after (dec 30th), so next one will be jan 6 11:49 < sipa> yeah, agree 11:50 < michaelfolkson> Cool. Next week's Core PR review club is on multiprocess if anyone wants to use that as an excuse to play around with the multiprocess stuff :) 11:50 < michaelfolkson> https://bitcoincore.reviews/10102 11:50 < laanwj> michaelfolkson: thanks for the heads up 11:51 < laanwj> #endmeeting 11:51 < core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt 11:51 < core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Dec 16 19:51:16 2021 UTC. 11:51 < core-meetingbot> Minutes: https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2021/bitcoin-core-dev.2021-12-16-19.00.moin.txt 11:51 < evbo> thank you 11:52 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:53 -!- evbo [~bosats@2601:47:4383:560:563:2655:147d:d700] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:54 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #23798: contrib: add achow101 to trusted keys (master...wallet-maintainer-key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23798 11:54 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 11:54 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:55 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:57 -!- lukedashjr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:59 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@user/luke-jr] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:59 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:07 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:07 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:08 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:13 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:22 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:25 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #23799: Let test_runner.py start multiple jobs per timeslot (master...202112_multitesturn) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23799 12:25 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 12:28 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:31 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:31 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:36 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:38 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:47 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:47 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:52 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 13:10 < jb55> I ran the functional test suite for the first time today, all is good except feature_dbcrash.py seems to hang, is this a known issue? 13:17 < sipa> On what kind of system? I don't see any problems. 13:19 < jb55> linux (nixos). hmm ok now I need to figure out how to debug this... 13:20 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@user/sdfgsdfg] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:23 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:25 -!- jtrag_ [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 13:27 -!- jtrag is now known as Guest6729 13:27 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:28 -!- jtrag_ is now known as jtrag 13:28 -!- Guest6729 [~jtrag@user/jtrag] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:52 -!- rex4539 [~rex4539@gateway/tor-sasl/rex4539] has quit [] 13:56 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:01 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 14:01 < jb55> sipa: ah it wasn't hanging, it looks like the test goes through 40 iterations and each iteration takes over a minute. 14:05 < sipa> Slow disk I/O? 14:05 < jb55> it's a new SSD, every other test ran quickly 14:07 < jb55> Iteration 16, generating 2500 transactions - looks like this is taking about a minute each iteration... 14:12 < jb55> will see if --perf helps here... 14:19 -!- rex4539 [~rex4539@gateway/tor-sasl/rex4539] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:19 -!- rex4539 [~rex4539@gateway/tor-sasl/rex4539] has quit [Client Quit] 14:22 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 14:29 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:56 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 15:01 -!- zonemix [~zonemix@216.16.35.204] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:01 < luke-jr> gitian builds please * [new tag] v21.2.knots20210629 -> v21.2.knots20210629 15:05 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@guyver2.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Going offline, see ya! 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