--- Log opened Mon Dec 20 00:00:06 2021 00:02 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:02 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8eeb4e997b06...70d6a09f5ccd 00:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ef7c822 Matt Corallo: Expose block filters over REST. 00:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2b64fa3 Matt Corallo: Update REST docs with new accessors 00:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 70d6a09 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#17631: Expose block filters over REST 00:02 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 00:03 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 00:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #17631: Expose block filters over REST (master...2019-11-filter-rest) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/17631 00:03 -!- bitcoin-git 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Dashjr: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available 03:03 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 20aea49 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23797: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU ... 03:03 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:03 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23797: ci: Use Cirrus "greedy" flag to use idle CPU time when available (master...cirrus_greedy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23797 03:03 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 03:08 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:12 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:13 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:13 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 03:15 -!- Yihen 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MarcoFalke merged pull request #23796: test: check that pruneblockchain RPC fails for future block or timestamp (master...202112-test-add_pruneblockchain_test_coverage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23796 04:34 -!- bitcoin-git [~bitcoin-g@x0f.org] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [] 04:34 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:36 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- sdfgsdfg [~sdfgsdfg@user/sdfgsdfg] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:37 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:39 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:39 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:40 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:41 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:43 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.117] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:45 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10:48 < jamesob> achow101: yeah congrats, meant to ACK 10:50 < laanwj> jamesob: you still can :) 10:50 < jamesob> good point! 10:50 < jamesob> posthumous ACKs are good ACKs 10:51 < laanwj> exactly, reviewing things that are merged is also important 10:54 < sipa> right! 11:07 -!- lucasdcf [~lucasdcf@177.197.65.214] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:14 -!- bomb-on [~bomb-on@194.144.47.113] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22 < jeremyrubin> dont' want to make github noisier, but the reason why i think that merging more features into a system that should be fully deprecated (IMO) is that if this is "the feature" that is currently blocking a user from relying on REST API then while it doesn't increase the mechanical work of deprecation, it does increase the future inconvenience/users 11:22 < jeremyrubin> arguing against deprecation. 11:23 < jeremyrubin> so that's why i don't feel the 'adding features to something that should go away' is separate from 'patch giving an alternative path for users to get same feature outside of core' 11:23 < jeremyrubin> because we should steer users in that direction anyways. 11:25 < sipa> If there were already agreement that the built-in REST interface should be deprecated, I might have agreed with that, but I don't feel that's the case (of course, I may be biased, because I personally don't feel it should be). 11:29 < jb55> didn't even know there was a rest interface 11:29 < earnestly> TIL 11:29 < jeremyrubin> definitely a larger question. I think we should remove almost everything that isn't required to keep a node operating in the 'standard' network, which is clearly a lot more aggressive than most, but the REST API seemed to be an easy punching bag of something that really clearly doesn't need to be in core 11:29 < jeremyrubin> and there are negative security risks of turning on the feature 11:29 < jeremyrubin> jb55 if this makes you start using it *shakes fist* 11:30 < jb55> all my scripts are built around the jsonrpc, I don't see why I would need it 11:30 < sipa> I don't think there are negative security risks of turning it on, given that there already is an RPC interface. 11:30 < jeremyrubin> not true 11:30 < jeremyrubin> if you expose REST on your system immediately any malicious website can DoS your nodes RPC interface 11:31 < sipa> They can DoS your RPC interface too. 11:31 < jb55> when graphql interface 11:32 < jeremyrubin> jb55 idk make a PR. but i really think these should be layers on top of RPC api as a proxy 11:32 < jeremyrubin> sipa not as badly since they won't pass auth 11:32 < sipa> There is no rate-limiting on the pre-auth aspect of RPC either. 11:33 < jeremyrubin> whereas the REST API i can troll to make my node output gigabytes of data pretty cheaply 11:33 < jb55> I have always dreamed of a custom query engine, might be overkill but would be neat 11:34 < sipa> You can send gigabytes to the RPC interface too, without authentication. 11:34 < jeremyrubin> send gigabytes from attacker is "backpressured" though by requiring the client to also push that amount of data through. 11:35 < jeremyrubin> Receive gigabytes is an amplification attack 11:35 < jeremyrubin> if I can send O(1) data and get O(N) back that's bad 11:35 < jeremyrubin> send and recv are not symmetric in costs to our node 11:36 < sipa> Hmm, I think they are. Both have a processing cost to bitcoind. The constant factors may differ a bit, but there is no qualitative difference I'd say. 11:36 < jamesob> does the REST server use a separate HTTP/auth mechanism than the RPC server? Because if so running it almost definitionally increases attack surface, just a matter of how marginally it does so 11:36 < jeremyrubin> it uses exaclty the same HTTP server 11:36 < sipa> REST is unauthenticated. 11:36 < jeremyrubin> REST is 100% unauthenticated 11:36 < jamesob> oh gotcha 11:36 < jeremyrubin> jamesob not even a separate instance of the same server, the same one 11:36 < sipa> I'm obviously assuming no bugs in the REST handling code itself. 11:37 < sipa> Additional code obviously increases attack surface - but that's true for literally every feature we want. It's also true for having it in a wrapper, as the wrapper needs RPC auth access, which means a bug in the wrapper could also expose more issues. 11:38 < jamesob> right, I think that's what jeremyrubin was getting at, eh? 11:38 < jamesob> but the actual risk is probably not big if REST is disabled by default... 11:38 < jb55> does anyone know anyone actually using the rest interface in production apps? a bit sketch that we are maintaining two separate rpc interfaces. 11:39 < jamesob> jb55 good question; I sure don't 11:39 < jeremyrubin> There absolutely is a difference between receiving a GB and sending a GB. there are inherent backpressures driven by OS scheduling and similar and similar that make sending dampened. 11:39 < jamesob> everyone I know backs up to the JSON-RPC interface 11:40 < jeremyrubin> sipa the nice thing about the wrapper is that a wrapper can live on e.g. a separate user, separate process, separate server, can also load balance across nodes if desireable, and can use RPC Whitelist credentials so that it being broken mitigates what can happen 11:40 < sipa> jeremyrubin: I think that's true for network interfaces, because aplification can be used to overload the network link before exhausting CPU on either attacker of victim system. 11:41 < jeremyrubin> well so here the 'call is coming inside the house' as the issue is you visit a webpage and they ping your localhost server 11:41 < sipa> But if you assume a local attacker, they can do whatever causes max CPU usage in bitcoind, whether that's done through sending or receiving. 11:42 < jeremyrubin> i guess it's worth testing. i'd assume browsers protect you from your webpages hosing your network. 11:42 < jeremyrubin> (network interfaces) 11:42 < sipa> Unless the website itself is running on http://localhost, I don't think you can make connections to localhost? same origin policy etc. 11:42 < jeremyrubin> you can atually 11:48 < jeremyrubin> https://frankli.ece.gatech.edu/papers/li-imc2021-weblocal.pdf 11:52 < sipa> Interesting. 11:55 -!- gnaf [~pi@86-91-224-60.opennet.kpn.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 11:55 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:55 -!- BlueMatt [~BlueMatt@ircb.bluematt.me] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:55 -!- jetpack [~jetpack@2605:2700:1:100e:ddb4:196e:c17a:3b92] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.2+deb3 - https://znc.in] 11:56 -!- ghost43_ [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:58 < jeremyrubin> also bad would be being able to detect a user is running bitcoin software while web browsing, even if no request is fired. but that applies to jsonrpc too 11:59 -!- mandeezy [~mandeezy@94.140.8.222] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 11:59 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:02 < jeremyrubin> overall i think it'd just be good if we only exposed Unix Sockets and had everything else be done via proxy. We can get all the local services working as we want them do (e/g bitcoin-cli) and industrial users should already be proxying. it's just attack surface with little benefit 12:04 -!- jetpack [~jetpack@2605:2700:1:100e:ddb4:196e:c17a:3b92] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:04 < sipa> I'd very much like to see at least a UNIX domain socket added, but it seems earlier attempts to do that were complicated by lack of unix support on the client-side of libevent, which is used in bitcoin-cli. 12:04 < sipa> There have been discussions about alternative approaches, but so far nobody who has investigated/worked on it further. 12:04 -!- geyaeb [~geyaeb@gateway/tor-sasl/geyaeb] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 12:06 -!- geyaeb [~geyaeb@gateway/tor-sasl/geyaeb] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:07 < jamesob> > see at least a UNIX domain socket added 12:07 < jamesob> sounds like a great first project for an enterprising new contributor... 12:07 < jeremyrubin> i agree that'd be a good first step 12:09 < jb55> we use unix sockets on the clightning side and people mostly complain about it and want web rpcs 12:09 -!- mandeezy [~mandeezy@94.140.8.222] has quit [Quit: Client closed] 12:10 -!- mandeezy [~mandeezy@94.140.8.222] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 12:11 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 12:16 < earnestly> jb55: Can't they use web sockets? 12:17 < jb55> earnestly: no that is not the same thing other than having the same word in the name 12:17 < earnestly> Hmmm 12:18 < sipa> "sounds like a great first..." <- Given that laanwj tried and gave up, I'm not sure I'd classify it as "great first project". 12:19 < earnestly> jb55: Yeah I was thinking of something else, that doesn't exist, fever dream 12:19 < sipa> (by which I absolutely don't want to discourage anyone who wants to try either!) 12:19 < jamesob> sipa: oh I thought laanwj tried to allow p2p access via unix socket, but maybe he triedboth 12:20 < sipa> No, RPC. P2P doesn't use libevent. 12:20 < sipa> Unless we're talking about different things. 12:20 < jamesob> #9979 12:20 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/9979 | p2p: Bare minimum to support UNIX sockets by laanwj · Pull Request #9979 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub 12:21 < jamesob> ^ which, by the way, I think is very much worth pickingup 12:21 < sipa> Oh, I was talking about https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/9919. 12:21 < jamesob> Ahh yep, just found that. So I guess he tried both. 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