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00:19 < laanwj> please keep the CSW shit out of here
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02:43 < bitcoin-git> [gui] w0xlt opened pull request #533: gui: add more detailed address error message (master...1_error_message_addr) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/533
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03:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #24121: wallet: treat P2TR address with invalid x-only pubkey as invalid (master...validate_P2TR_invalid_pk) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24121
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04:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #24122: refactor: replace RecursiveMutex `cs_vProcessMsg` with Mutex (and rename) (master...202201-refactor_replace_RecursiveMutex_cs_vProcess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24122
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05:11 < stick> sipa: what HW did you use for testing https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24115#issuecomment-1018001885 ?
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05:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24123: [POC] build: enable Pointer Authentication and Branch Target Identification for aarch64 (Linux) (master...mbranch_protection_aarch64_linux) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24123
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10:23 < jeremyrubin> hey cfields can you have a look at #21702 build failure?
10:23 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21702 | Implement BIP-119 Validation (CheckTemplateVerify) by JeremyRubin · Pull Request #21702 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
10:23 < jeremyrubin> https://stackoverflow.com/questions/34924083/mingw32-make-error-error-once-flag-in-namespace-std-does-not-name-a-type
10:23 < jeremyrubin> https://github.com/RavenProject/Ravencoin/issues/460
10:24 < jeremyrubin> sort of weird b/c we use once_flag and call_once in other places in the code, so it looks like we're somehow linking with the wrong options?
10:26 < jeremyrubin> looks like laanwj might know whats going on here based on https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/8653
10:27 < sipa> @stick: https://www.96boards.org/product/developerbox/
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10:30 < jeremyrubin> specific errors are here https://gist.github.com/JeremyRubin/b3fc2ba910a8e5b6b807df3746e949d9
10:30 < jeremyrubin> impl_pthread not getting linked
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11:09 < laanwj> jeremyrubin: that's a 5 year old issue, i'm sure it's no longer relevant? we've been using the posix variant since forever
11:10 < laanwj> jeremyrubin: IIRC libbitcoin_consensus isn't linked against pthread intentionally, it's not supposed to be threaded
11:11 < laanwj> because it could be used from non-threaded C code, or code using some completely different threading model
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11:25 < laanwj> i'd agree "using C++ synchronization primitives" isn't threading in itself, but apparently it does cause linking to one
11:26 < jeremyrubin> laanwj: ok that makes sense I guess, but it's problematic slightly since the scriptchecks generated are designed to be threadsafe so i wanted to ensure that i had a low cost way to do cache on first use... but it sounds like that's troublesome no matter what I do (mutex, atomic, etc)
11:28 < laanwj> right-even atomic isn't guaranteed, on some platforms it can be done with instructions, but on others it does need support from the OS through a threading library
11:29 < jeremyrubin> i thought c++ requires atomics OR proof no threads are used otherwise things like static init are broken?
11:29 < laanwj> any caching would have to be done at a higher level
11:29 < jeremyrubin> hmm that seems like a boundary violation
11:29 < jeremyrubin> this caching is required for validation to be correct
11:29 < laanwj> not in the consensus code itself, i think it makes sense from the perspective that libbitcoin_consensus is supposed to be stateless too
11:30 < laanwj> wait, no, consensus never should need caching between validations to be correct
11:30 < jeremyrubin> PrecomputedData is required for correctness
11:30 < jeremyrubin> where correctness includes runtime
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11:31 < jeremyrubin> you don't need caching between validations, but you do need caching of validation data to prevent quadratic hashing
11:31 < laanwj> in that case isn't there another way to manage the context 
11:31 < laanwj> like, cache it within a call somehow instead of between them
11:32 < jeremyrubin> no, because that reintroduces quadratic hashing
11:32 < jeremyrubin> N inputs having to do a N sized computation ==> N^2
11:33 < jeremyrubin> laanwj: the way to get rid of it is to just always pre-compute, rather than cache on first use, but that has an overhead if you don't use the cache at all
11:33 < jeremyrubin> which was feedback from jamesob to not do that
11:33 < sipa> libbitcoinconsensus right now doesn't even support taproot
11:33 < jeremyrubin> one thing we could do is make PrecomputedData an abstract base class
11:33 < sipa> see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/21158
11:33 < jeremyrubin> and have getter methods for the fields
11:34 < jeremyrubin> errr
11:34 < sipa> and the single-call per input model that libbitcoinconsensus has is inherently vulnerable to quadratic hashing
11:34 < jeremyrubin> make the BIP119LazyInit function defined by users of the abstract base
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11:36 < jeremyrubin> another option would be to make precomputeddata take a lambda for BIP119LazyInit
11:36 < jeremyrubin> that's the smallest code change impact I guess?
11:37 < jeremyrubin> and if no lambda provided, it should just compute the things eagerly
11:38 < jeremyrubin> that would force the sync responsibility up the stack.
11:38 < laanwj> agree, the libbitcoinconsensus API which is too low-level for most purposes, the libbitcoin_kernel model does allow for threading, caching etc, but we don't have it yet
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11:43 < jeremyrubin> i'm somewhat indifferent as to what the right path is, be it to just always cache for now (small performance impact), to do a lambda pass wrapping call_once, to enable linking pthread, or to do something more sophisticated. i'll go with the flow on it, care more about adressing jamesob feedback ultimately 
11:44 < jeremyrubin> also maybe possible to write a basic call_once alternative using just atomics (which might not have the same link error) and then wrap it based on platform?
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11:59 < laanwj> passing in a lambda could work i guess if it's optional (in the case of libbitcoin_consensus use it would be empty), i don't like platform specific workarounds
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12:41 < jamesob> jeremyrubin: I like the sound of the lambda pass, maybe that's worth trying
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14:46 < backes> hey, is 70016 the latest protocol version? 
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15:27 < jeremyrubin> so the approach ends up a little convoluted API wise, but I think it gives us everything we wanted:
15:27 < jeremyrubin> Lambda for caching, which can use call_once (used from CheckInputsScripts), force option just precomputes it always (threadsafe), and no lambda + no force gives you a default cache on first use which is not thread safe. You can make a PrecomputedData with a lambda, or pass to init, but if you do both we don't allow overriding (since it's probably a
15:27 < jeremyrubin> logic error)
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17:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #24125: p2p: Replace RecursiveMutex `cs_tx_inventory` with Mutex and rename it (master...cs_tx_inventory_mutex) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24125
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19:42 < margarita> regalo bono solo por registro sin inversion registro facil https://mobileworkshd.xyz/9285873753831
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22:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] uvhw opened pull request #24126: Create CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24126
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23:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24126: Create CODE_OF_CONDUCT.md (master...patch-2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24126
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