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00:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6b8e4977b832...493b1156d843
00:03 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 64645fa Jeremy Rand: Release process: fix broken link to Guix building docs
00:03 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 493b115 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24345: doc: Release process: fix broken link to Guix...
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00:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24345: doc: Release process: fix broken link to Guix building docs (master...guix-link) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24345
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00:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/493b1156d843...444b6b342df6
00:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa45597 MarcoFalke: util: Add missing unlinkat to syscall sandbox
00:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 444b6b3 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24340: util: Add missing unlinkat to syscall sandbox...
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00:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24340: util: Add missing unlinkat to syscall sandbox (master...2202-gcc12) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24340
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00:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/444b6b342df6...566df80624b0
00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faef344 MarcoFalke: Print enable_fuzz_binary in configure
00:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 566df80 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24336: Print enable_fuzz_binary in configure
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00:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24336: Print enable_fuzz_binary in configure (master...2202-buildFuzz) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24336
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00:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/566df80624b0...7164e00e1bc4
00:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f11dad2 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: refactor: remove unneeded bytes<->hex conversions in `byte_to_base58...
00:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7164e00 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24324: test: refactor: remove unneeded bytes<->hex c...
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00:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24324: test: refactor: remove unneeded bytes<->hex conversions in `byte_to_base58` (master...202202-test-refactor_simplify-byte_to_base58) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24324
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01:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to 22.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a06915dece9f...eff97097239f
01:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x 4b92a6b fanquake: build: libXau 1.0.9
01:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x 685ac6a fanquake: build: fix depends zeromq dash compatibility
01:20 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/22.x b5d12ed MarcoFalke: ci: Bump CentOS 8 image
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01:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24256: [22.x] build: Bump depends packages (zmq, libXau) (22.x...backport_centos_8) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24256
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02:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24347: rpc: Fix implicit-integer-sign-change in verifychain (master...2202-rpcInt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24347
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02:56 < provoostenator> Was BIP 8 assigned later than BIP 9 with the idea of filling the single digit range in descending order with things that relate to upgrades?
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03:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #24348: build: Fix Guix build for Windows (attempt #2) (master...220215-guix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24348
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03:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #24349: fuzz: Split script formatting from script fuzz target (master...2202-fuzzFaster) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24349
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03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] TheCharlatan opened pull request #24350: Primitives: Correct CTransaction deserialization docstring (master...rmCTxWitness) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24350
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03:41 < michaelfolkson> provoostenator: Probably should be in #bitcoin-dev (and I think only luke-jr can answer it) but BIP 148, 149 weren't given single digits and allocated at similar time. But they were entitled to be SegWit specific rather than general activation mechanism
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03:47 < provoostenator> michaelfolkson: indeed the distinction I was assuming is that it's a generic mechanism.  Per soft fork deployment logic is also found in BIP 34, 66, 341
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03:49 < provoostenator> Can move to #bitcoin-dev if the answer is "complicated" :-)
04:01 < yanmaani> Why doesn't Bitcoin Core sync db after completing ibd?
04:02 < yanmaani> to reproduce: install bitcoin core, sync it until it's like a week behind, close it orderly
04:02 < yanmaani> start bitcoin again, wait for it to sync up, kill it with -9
04:02 < yanmaani> start it again, observe ibd isn't done
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04:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24300: guix: point to latest upstream master (master...reenable_win_guix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24300
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04:08 < laanwj> psa: the feature freeze is today
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04:10 < laanwj> yanmaani: because flushing is bad for performance (this may matter for mining etc), a one-time utxo cache flush after ibd has been proposed (pretty sure there's some issues and PRs about it if you search around) but it's not something people unconditionally want
04:11 < Kiminuo> Hey, if anyone has a moment. Could you express your concept ACK / NACK for https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24339
04:11 < Kiminuo> ?
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04:37 < provoostenator> yanmaani laanwj: #17487 would be the first step to allow writing to disk immedidately after sync without too much performance hit
04:37 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/17487 | coins: allow write to disk without cache drop by jamesob · Pull Request #17487 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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04:47 < laanwj> provoostenator: cool!
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04:49 < sipa> @provoostenator In normal circumstances that will still result in a performance hit; most of the benefit the cace provides is in preventing utxos that are created and quickly spent from ever hitting disk at all.
04:49 < sipa> Once you flush to disk, whether you wipe the cache or not, you must deal with writing all the spends of utxos that were flushed.
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04:52 < laanwj> it's nice that all the boost dependencies are header-only now, no need to install boost packages anymore beyond boost-dev (for debian)
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05:03 < sipa> @laanwj Indeed. And with the musl build we'll even be able to create fully standalone binaries that aren't huge.
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05:30 < Kiminuo> Is the header-only Boost generated using some script? I mean do they have .h and .cpp files and somehow do some magic to generate .h files only?
05:30 < hebasto> only `*.h` files
05:31 < hebasto> in our depends they are just copied from source
05:32 < hebasto> to be precise --- `*.hpp` files
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05:34 < sipa> the boost test framework just supports both headers-only and library-linked modes
05:35 < sipa> this isn't true for all of boost; most of its modules only support one of the twi
05:35 < sipa> two
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05:47 < laanwj> yeah its just that generic algorithms and data structures tend to be header-only, and that's the part of boost remaining, there is no manipulation of boost itself
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06:10 < Kiminuo> Ah, thanks!
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06:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #24352: RFC: Add doc/design/libraries.md (master...pr/libs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24352
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08:05 < willcl_ark> I'm curious about which transactions could remain in `mapDeltas` after writing (and erasing) every transaction from `vinfo` as part of `DumpMempool` here: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/validation.cpp#L4590-L4597
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08:10 < sipa> @willcl_ark All deltas for transactions that aren't currently in the mempool.
08:14 < willcl_ark> Pieter: Ok, thanks, I think I see how it's working now :)
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08:53 < provoostenator> sipa: I see, so in that case it's a safety/performance trade-off,  because _if_ a freshly synced node with a huge db cache crashes, its's very bad
08:54 < provoostenator> But once it's synced, performance isn't as big a deal as during IBD.
08:54 < sipa> Sure, no objection to flushing after IBD, or more frequently, or using this flush-but-not-wipe in certain circumstances as implemented by that PR.
08:54 < sipa> Just as long as we're aware it's a trade-off.
08:54 < provoostenator> I don't know if the "don't wipe" part has any benefit, it's been a while since I read that PR
08:56 < sipa> The last time I benchmarked things (which may have been in 2015 or so...), flushing without wiping generally was barely better than just flushing and wiping, because it results in quickly afterwards still having the cache overflow, triggering a full flush anyway.
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10:41 < luke-jr> [12:01:42] <yanmaani> Why doesn't Bitcoin Core sync db after completing ibd? <-- that's #15218 (included in Knots)
10:41 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/15218 | validation: Flush state after initial sync by andrewtoth · Pull Request #15218 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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10:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7164e00e1bc4...1e8aa02ec5cc
10:58 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0243907 Martin Zumsande: index: Don't commit without valid m_best_block_index
10:58 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bfcd60f Martin Zumsande: test: activate all index types in feature_init.py
10:58 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1e8aa02 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24117: index: make indices robust against init abort...
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10:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24117: index: make indices robust against init aborts (master...202201_index_startup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24117
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12:23 < ronoaldo> I'm not sure if this is the proper place to ask but the bitcoin client qt displays "This is experimental software." when you go to about -> About Bitcoin Core. Is there a goal to consider the software no longer experimental? Like, it won't be experimental when a milestone/feature set is reached.
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12:34 < hebasto> ronoaldo: #21883
12:34 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21883 | doc: remove experimental word. by jaanauati · Pull Request #21883 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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14:44 < sipa> achow101: What do you think about making descriptor->ToPrivateString() just use all available private keys, and never fail, rather than failing if any private key is missing?
14:44 < sipa> In any nontrivial descriptor, you're not ever going to have all private keys.
14:45 < sipa> But exporting the ones you have is still useful.
14:45 < Earnestly> Hm, none of the issues which are linked from that 21883 explain anything besides one which states "we're going to leave this as is for now" (and one or two about it not being a complete contrib)
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14:46 < Earnestly> "I think we're still experimenting", well fair enough then
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15:52 < achow101> sipa: that seems reasonable
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16:44 < sipa> @achow101 Might this affect the wallet code? Does it even support importing a descriptor for which you only have a subset of the privkeys?
16:44 < achow101> sipa: it shouldn't. you can import a descriptor without all of the privkeys and it will just tell warn you of that fact
16:45 < achow101> and signing will just not sign for things it can't sign for
16:46 < achow101> the only prolem is the dummy signer
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16:48 < sipa> right, that's ok
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17:14 < ronoaldo> hebasto Earnestly: yeah ... saw that after a few issue hops... :-/  
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