--- Log opened Fri Mar 18 00:00:29 2022
00:01 < luke-jr> in the meantime, a direct link for bdb 4.8 is http://download.oracle.com/berkeley-db/db-4.8.30.tar.gz
00:02 < luke-jr> IIRC our 'depends' system will also do the download+build for you; and if you prefer, I have a Ubuntu PPA with it here: https://launchpad.net/~luke-jr/+archive/ubuntu/db48
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00:56 < vasild> stickies-v: wrt to testing the default-port-preference removal: a coarse way would be to get a ratio of default/non-default ports in all known peers and then get the default/non-default ratio for currently connected peers (outbound)
00:56 < vasild> both ratios should be about the same, meaning we neither prefer nor avoid non-default ports
00:57 < vasild> commands to do that:
00:57 < vasild> (get all known peers): bitcoin-cli getnodeaddresses 0 > /tmp/getnodeaddresses0
00:58 < vasild> (count peers with default port): cat /tmp/getnodeaddresses0 |jq 'map(select(.port == 8333)) |length'
00:58 < vasild> (count peers with non-default port): cat /tmp/getnodeaddresses0 |jq 'map(select(.port != 8333)) |length'
01:01 < vasild> (count connected, outbound peers with default port): bitcoin-cli getpeerinfo |jq 'map(select(.inbound == false)) |map(select(.addr |endswith(":8333"))) |length'
01:02 < vasild> (count connected, outbound peers with non-default port): bitcoin-cli getpeerinfo |jq 'map(select(.inbound == false)) |map(select(.addr |endswith(":8333") |not)) |length'
01:04 < _aj_> vasild: that assumes there's equal reliability for default and non-default ports; checking debug.log for attempted outbound connections whether they succeed or not seems better?
01:04 < vasild> hmm, but given that non-default/default ratio is so low in all known peers and that usually we have ~10 outbound connected peers, it means that connected to non-default is going to be zero anyway...
01:05 < vasild> _aj_: yeah, this is why I said "coarse", there are other variables that influence this, like reliability - maybe 8333 peers are more reliable...
01:06 < vasild> in my case non-default/default in addrman is 0.07
01:08 < vasild> so, if there are 15 outbound peers with port 8333, there should be 1 with !=8333 port
01:10 < vasild> stickies-v, _aj_: maybe a successful test would be to get just one auto outbound connection to a !=8333 peer
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01:15 < _aj_> vasild: hmm, looking at my "New outbound .* block-relay-only" log lines (successful connections only), I see 1/434 on a non-default port. I get the same 7% from addrdb
01:21 < _aj_> vasild: with net debug logging on (on a different node), if i look at the "trying connection" lines, i do get 7%
01:21 < _aj_> vasild: (172 out of 2234)
01:21 < vasild> aha!
01:22 < vasild> yeah, "trying connection" from the log is better than querying the currently connected peers, gives a bigger sample
01:23 < _aj_> vasild: same log lines, i get 1 of 271 "New outbound" connections being non-default port
01:23 < vasild> so !=8333 are less "reliable"
01:23 < _aj_> vasild: (1 of 233 as block-relay-only)
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01:38 < laanwj> please have the minimum decency to set a name when you comment here (you don't necessarily need to register with NickServ, at the moment), it's easier to keep track of the channel that way
01:41 < _aj_> vasild: 15% of lines matching 'connect().*failed after wait' have non-default ports; seems to be most of the discrepency
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01:53 < vasild> _aj_: this explains
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02:48 < KillerWasp> mmmm, ok, i finally download the source codes of berkeley db and boost-libs, compiling it and use it for bitcoin-core in the configure step.
02:49 < KillerWasp> but late in 'make' give error again with berkeley, why? i already configure it. I need send the library directory in the 'make' command? how?
02:49 < sipa> please, not here; ask in #bitcoin or look on https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com
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02:51 < KillerWasp> sipa: ok...
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02:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e09cf64c4828...a17df4e876f9
02:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 979271a fanquake: macdeploy: remove unused detached-sig-apply
02:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a17df4e fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24603: macdeploy: remove unused detached-sig-apply.s...
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02:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24603: macdeploy: remove unused detached-sig-apply.sh (master...unused_detached_sig_apply) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24603
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03:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] josibake closed pull request #24570: test, refactor: fund tx deterministically in `feature_coinstatindex` (master...josibake-make-coinstatindex-test-deterministic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24570
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03:19 < jonatack> laanwj: ty, +1 on people setting a name when commenting on this channel
03:19 < MarcoFalke> KillerWasp: You can use (1) The pre-built release binaries from the website (2) a system bdb, but this is on you to figure out how to (3) our ./depends system
03:19 < MarcoFalke> KillerWasp: There is also no need for bdb, if you don't have a pre-existing wallet.dat. You can create a new sqlite wallet, without bdb.
03:21 < MarcoFalke> This should be documented in the ./doc/build-*.md files (make sure to use the docs of the release you are using)
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03:22 < KillerWasp> MarcoFalke: i'm reading the documentation. Say that i need berkeley db for use wallet commands.
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03:24 < KillerWasp> also already read the Makefile, BDB_LIBS have the correct directory.
03:25 < KillerWasp> MarcoFalke: https://0x0.st/oNPK.txt
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03:28 < KillerWasp> pffff time to use install_db4.sh ...
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03:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24608: doc: clarify that BDB is only required for the legacy wallet in build-unix.md (master...build_unix_correct_bdb_note) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24608
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04:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #24609: Clarify -maxtimeadjustment that only outbound peers influence timedata (master...maxtimeadjustment-outbound-peers-only) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24609
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04:54 < jonatack13> Question, do people using some platforms (macOS?) need to wrap bitcoin-cli string arguments in quotes? i.e. getnodeaddresses 0 "onion" ... or is it fine without quotes for everyone
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05:12 < stick> jonatack13: not seeing a reason why you would need to quote these
05:13 < stick> macos uses standard shell (zsh or bash 3.x)
05:17 < jonatack13> stick: thanks. i received review feedback on a doc change some time ago that the quotes were needed for macOS. i'll leave  off the quotes and see if anyone complains.
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05:19 < stick> it would be interesting to see a particular example that does not behave like it should
05:19 < jonatack13> yes, maybe they were using an older or different shell
05:19 < stick> maybe there is some difference in quoting between zsh and bash, but I can't think of any
05:20 < stick> also fish is quite popular among macos users
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05:28 < jonatack13> CI currently seems to have an issue with this task: [previous releases, uses qt5 dev package and some depends packages, DEBUG] [unsigned char] [buster]
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05:28 < jonatack13> "Error creating command-line script: failed to create temp file"
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05:49 < willcl_ark> On the subject of fish shell, would there be any interest in adding fish autocompletions alongside the bash ones?  I have made them for myself already, but didn't know if the project would want them or not. They are dynamically generated from the help pages (like the bash ones) so should be just as low maintenence in theory.
05:53 < laanwj> willcl_ark: sure, why not, as long as someone is willing to maintain them
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05:55 < laanwj> jonatack13: i think that comment was mistaken (though i don't know the entire context), no POSIX compliant shell requires quotes around arguments without special characters in them
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05:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #24610: test, lint: check bash version before executing codespell (master...2022-03-bash-lint-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24610
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05:56 < laanwj> (it's different if you want to pass, say, a space, a glob character like "*" "?", etc)
05:59 < laanwj> i tried to use fish for a while it's quite neat as a shell it feels really modern though i couldn't really get used to it after so many years of bash
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06:05 < jonatack13> laanwj: thanks!
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06:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a17df4e876f9...a7b3123feadb
06:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1bba72d Jon Atack: Clarify in -maxtimeadjustment that only outbound peers influence time data
06:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a7b3123 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24609: Clarify -maxtimeadjustment that only outbound...
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06:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24609: Clarify -maxtimeadjustment that only outbound peers influence timedata (master...maxtimeadjustment-outbound-peers-only) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24609
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06:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a7b3123feadb...66e2d21ef203
06:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d6b24e1 DrahtBot: test: Fix intermittent failure in feature_segwit
06:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 66e2d21 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24578: test: Fix intermittent failure in feature_seg...
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06:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24578: test: Fix intermittent failure in feature_segwit (master...2203-testInt-💮) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24578
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06:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark opened pull request #24611: Add fish completions (master...fish_completions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24611
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07:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24613: build: remove unused QMAKE_* VARs (master...qt_unused_install_name_tool) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24613
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09:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] atuta opened pull request #24614: Readme update (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24614
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09:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24614: Readme update (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24614
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09:42 < luke-jr> hebasto: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/555 should just be github-merge.py'd into the 23.x branch
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11:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 307215b fanquake: doc: clarify that BDB is only required for the legacy wallet
11:19 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2320d31 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24608: doc: clarify that BDB is only required for th...
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11:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24608: doc: clarify that BDB is only required for the legacy wallet in build-unix.md (master...build_unix_correct_bdb_note) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24608
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12:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #24615: guix: Map guix store prefixes to /usr for cross-architecture reproducibility (master...guix-cross-arch-repro) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24615
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13:20 < cornfeedhobo> does anyone know where the mempool.space folks hang out?
13:23 < stick> cornfeedhobo: twitter?
13:24 < cornfeedhobo> ooof. looks like you are correct. thanks.
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13:33 < cornfeedhobo> it's interesting that fulcrum electrum server chose to use Qt for it's networking classes
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13:44 < laanwj> qt has a decent cross-platform networking library, that said, choosing it for a non GUI related project is somewhat curious
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13:47 < laanwj> especially nowadays now that threading, filesystem, and such is part of C++, there was of course a time when it was not and even std::string was crappy, and frameworks such as qt provding half a OS and standard library was very useful
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13:53 < laanwj> it also provides http, json handling and such in one place, without having to specifially pick out libraries for everything, i guess once you're used to qt's way of doing things it's easy to stick with it
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14:22 < cornfeedhobo> indeed
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16:08 < KillerWasp> hello, anyone here know where i must go to modify for make a new altcoin? please.
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16:10 < sipa> @KillerWasp: not here
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16:10 < KillerWasp> sipa: then where? :(
16:11 < sipa> No idea.
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19:07 < hebasto> luke-jr: my merge permissions are limited to the main branch and the gui repo pulls, so leaving https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/555 merging/backporting to 23.x up to other fellow maintainers
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20:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan closed pull request #24143: WIP: net/p2p:rename command*/Command/* to message*/Message*  (master...1643068742-rename-COMMAND_SIZE-to-MESSAGE_SIZE) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24143
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20:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] RandyMcMillan closed pull request #24090: net/p2p: change nScore and nBestScore data types to int64_t (master...1642450390-issue-24049) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24090
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