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01:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #24648: Revert "net: do not advertise address where nobody is listening" (master...220323-listen) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24648
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01:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] S3RK opened pull request #24649: wallet: do not count wallet utxos as external (master...wallet_correct_external_utxo) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24649
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02:59 < fanquake> I have invited https://github.com/0xB10C to the bitcoin/bitcoin org
02:59 < fanquake> so we can inundate them tracepoint and related review requests
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03:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24650: build: require libtool 2.4.6 (master...require_libtool_2_4_6) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24650
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03:11 < michaelfolkson> I noticed MarcoFalke is adding emojis to his Git branch names. How are these encoded?
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03:12 < michaelfolkson> Not interested in using them, just wondering if they could pose a problem if using bare Git and not browsers/GitHub etc :)
03:13 < michaelfolkson> There's a standardized encoding for all use of emojis?
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03:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d6f225f5c9f8...bc562b9ef81d
03:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 38a1b0b jessebarton: doc: remove unneeded documentation on basic package management on FreeBSD
03:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bc562b9 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24646: doc: remove unneeded documentation on basic p...
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03:24 < vasild> michaelfolkson: I assume it is just utf8 symbols, did not create problems for me - can copy paste it if necessary, or autocomplete through it, but it is hard to type it :) if it ends up in the filesystem as a directory or file name it could create problems for non-utf8 filesystems, I guess (I do not know which ones would that be)
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03:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24646: doc: remove unneeded documentation on basic package management on FreeBSD (master...freebsd_remove_basic_doc_info) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24646
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03:29 < michaelfolkson> vasild: Ok thanks. So just a minor typing irritant. The branch name shouldn't end up in the filesystem, just the Git history. So not a disaster for non-utf8 file systems?
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03:30 < michaelfolkson> Let's not include emoijs in directory or file names :)
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03:36 < bitcoin-git> [gui] vasild opened pull request #568: options: flip listenonion to false if not listening (master...fListen) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/568
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03:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #24648: Revert "net: do not advertise address where nobody is listening" (master...220323-listen) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24648
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04:32 < hebasto> begging to review https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/568 which fixes a bug/regression in the v23.0rc2 GUI
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06:13 < laanwj> i don't think we particularly need to support checking out the repo on non-unicode file systems
06:13 < laanwj> that said, i agree if there's no need to have utf-8 characters in filenames it's better not to
06:16 < laanwj> fanquake: ACK on inviting 0xb10c, i'm surprised they weren't yet! btw, please invite people to bitcoincore org as well if you invite them for bitcoin to keep the lists in sync
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06:35 < jonatack> a propos, I suggested S3RK some time ago on one of these membership PRs, and would re-recommend
06:36 < jonatack> (based on activity, I don't have any other affiliation or connection)
06:36 < jonatack> +1 wrt 0xb10c
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06:39 < michaelfolkson> #proposedmeetingtopic Current thinking on when to deprecate and the deprecation process when deprecation is considered appropriate
06:39 < michaelfolkson> (Please do other proposed topics first, this may be more for my personal benefit)
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07:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #24610: test, lint: check bash version before executing codespell (master...2022-03-bash-lint-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24610
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07:49 < josibake> is there a way to simulate a bumpfee when using miniwallet? if not, is this worth adding to miniwallet?
07:50 < josibake> context - i am trying to rewrite `test/functional/interface_zmq.py` to use MiniWallet and there are a few lines testing the RBF notifications, which use bumpfee
07:50 < MarcoFalke> josibake: I think you can just do tx.vout[0].nValue -= 1000 to bumpfee 
07:51 < josibake> MarcoFalke: thanks! does it make sense to add this as a method to MiniWallet?
07:52 < laanwj> jonasschnelli: thanks, invited S3RK to both orgs
07:52 < laanwj> oops jonatack ^
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09:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7f90dc2 Vasil Dimov: options: flip listenonion to false if not listening
09:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f9ed0ae Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui#568: options: flip listenonion to false if not list...
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09:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #22509: test: Use MiniWallet in mempool_accept.py (master...mini_memaccept) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/22509
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09:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #24652: doc: rewrite OpenBSD build docs for 7.0 (master...openbsd_wallet_doc_cleanupp) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24652
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09:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] josibake opened pull request #24653: test, refactor: use `MiniWallet` in `test/functional/interface_zmg` (master...josibake-make-interfaces-zmq-test-use-miniwallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24653
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09:44 < cocoon> 1: adding to org for a project on github can be decided by the owners but this project is different from others. It is used by most of the nodes in bitcoin network claimed to be decentralized network for money and bip repo belongs to same organization.
09:44 < cocoon> 2: there should be a process for adding people to org else it will lead to controversies
09:44 < cocoon> 3: github needs org, bitcoin doesn't so these things can be separated
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09:47 < bitcoin-git> [gui] hebasto merged pull request #568: options: flip listenonion to false if not listening (master...fListen) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/568
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09:53 < michaelfolkson> cocoon: This is adding to the GitHub org, there is no org other than the GitHub org and merge permissions (maintainers)
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10:03 < cocoon> michaelfolkson: adding to github org has a meaning in bitcoin/bitcoin and bitcoin-core/gui. if you think there is no other github org maintaining implementations for bitcoin then its either a misunderstanding or centralization. I understand this does not involve merge permissions.
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10:19 < cocoon> and I am not surprised by the last 2 people added or their employer or things they didn't want in bitcoin
10:21 < michaelfolkson> cocoon: #bitcoin please
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10:23 < cocoon> michaelfolkson: lmao this was shared in this channel and they were added in bitcoin core github org
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10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 77773b0 MarcoFalke: wallet: Pass FastRandomContext& to DiscourageFeeSniping
10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa7deaa MarcoFalke: wallet: Pass FastRandomContext& to coin selection
10:51 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3ab96f2 Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24560: wallet: Use single FastRandomContext when cre...
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10:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #24560: wallet: Use single FastRandomContext when creating a wallet tx (master...2203-RandWallet-🗾) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24560
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11:01 < luke-jr> I agree with cocoon that it was on-topic here, though I don't really understand his concerns
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11:11 < michaelfolkson> luke-jr: "I am not surprised" you think that (joke)
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11:15 < cocoon> luke-jr: thanks for understanding and I like the recent feature that you can improve privacy by rejecting address reuse in mempool.
11:16 < cocoon> my concerns: percentage of nodes run core for bitcoin? percentage of people that use core org for bip and read that they need post on a mailing list? do we have a process to add/remove people in this? can we improve this?
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11:26 < luke-jr> to be clear, BIPs are not part of Core. The bitcoin github org just has multiple groups and multiple projects.
11:26 < luke-jr> and only each person can decide which node implementation they run; feel free to encourage more use of others
11:28 < luke-jr> (also, while the topic of bitcoin/bitcoin group members would be on-topic here, things like "what impl people run" does indeed seem better suited for #bitcoin and broader community chats; let's stick to just dev-specific topics here, so non-devs can more readily participate in the other topics ☺)
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11:40 < cocoon> luke-jr: BIPs are not part of core. How do you explain this to whole world including laanwj who knows this exists: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/2021-April/018871.html. I have tried my best to share they use an implementation they like or fork but NETWORK EFFECT is a thing you cannot go against. If you every try to do
11:40 < cocoon> marketing for knots, more github activity, more tweets, more mailing list indirect involvement, r/bitcoin suggesting as an alternative etc. maybe it would work. I would encourage people for both: core and knots.
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11:53 < michaelfolkson> MarcoFalke: GitHub is saying you haven't yet uploaded your public key (unverified) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24635
11:54 < michaelfolkson> Might be a GitHub bug
11:55 < michaelfolkson> Vigilant mode (in beta) https://docs.github.com/en/authentication/managing-commit-signature-verification/displaying-verification-statuses-for-all-of-your-commits
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12:05 < michaelfolkson> I guess I should use this as an excuse to practise verifying signed commits
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12:16 < darosior> michaelfolkson: i think it's the aim :)
12:16 < darosior> git log --show-signature
12:17 < darosior> (Or the more complete https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/verify-commits)
12:24 < michaelfolkson> darosior: Thanks!
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13:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2d176 MarcoFalke: Move txoutproof RPCs to txoutproof.cpp
13:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3004126 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24582: Move txoutproof RPCs to txoutproof.cpp
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13:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24582: Move txoutproof RPCs to txoutproof.cpp (master...2203-txoutproof-move-🍤) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24582
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13:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa7a576 MarcoFalke: test: Run non-wallet tests only once
13:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ce05f83 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24635: test: Run non-wallet tests only once
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13:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24635: test: Run non-wallet tests only once (master...2203-noWalletOnce-🌘) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24635
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13:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fae5d06 MarcoFalke: Remove unused feebumper code
13:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cea230e fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24562: Remove unused feebumper code
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13:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24562: Remove unused feebumper code (master...2203-remFeeBumpCode-🐇) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24562
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13:15 < jonatack> laanwj: thanks!
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13:44 < cocoon> > "I am not surprised" you think that (joke)
13:44 < cocoon> michaelfolkson: you are ignoring lot of thoughts because of of your bias and opinions
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17:05 < webcash> andytoshi:ban me now cc: darosior jamesob stop me from writing things on internet about bitcoin
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18:50 < luke-jr> jamesob: FYI, fixed a number of issues in #23549 - feel free to squash my branch into your PR ☺
18:50 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23549 | Add scanblocks RPC call (attempt 2) by jamesob · Pull Request #23549 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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23:36 < laanwj> from now on, you need to be registered with nickssrv to post here
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23:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cea230eec400...98e9d8e8e2e3
23:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 39b1763 Kiminuo: Replace use of `ArgsManager` with `DatabaseOptions`
23:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 98e9d8e MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#23732: refactor: Remove `gArgs` from `bdb.h` and `sq...
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23:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #23732: refactor: Remove `gArgs` from `bdb.h` and `sqlite.h` (master...feature/2021-12-02-db-without-gArgs-base) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/23732
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23:48 < laanwj> adding frequent contributors to the organization is purely practical, so that they appear in the list and can be assigned issues / reviews, this is useful when they take part in collaborative development, it is not a judgement of people or their employer or whatever
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