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01:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0d080a183bfc...1ad5d5088d69
01:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a4fd440 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Pass missed `strip` tool via `config.site`
01:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 80cd993 Hennadii Stepanov: scripted-diff: Rename INSTALLNAMETOOL -> INSTALL_NAME_TOOL
01:37 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f87594d Hennadii Stepanov: build: No need to provide defaults for darwin-specific tools
01:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24866: build: No longer need to hack the `PATH` variable in `config.site` (master...220415-tools) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24866
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03:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jonatack opened pull request #25067: validation, refactor: make MainSignalsInstance() a class, move to h (master...make-MainSignalsInstance-a-class-and-move-to-header-file) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25067
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06:59 < dongcarl> sipa: https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/013/306/2dd.jpg
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07:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1ad5d5088d69...7cc1860b12a5
07:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a0e2a31 Hennadii Stepanov: build: Drop redundant checks for ranlib and strip tools
07:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7cc1860 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24566: build: Drop redundant checks for ranlib and s...
07:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24566: build: Drop redundant checks for ranlib and strip tools (master...220314-conf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24566
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07:35 < instagibbs> sipa, I was too afraid to ask
07:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #25068: Wrap boost::replace_all (master...2205-util-string-📉) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25068
07:40 < achow101> Can someone block uvhw on github?
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07:43 < sipa> Done.
07:48 < fanquake> I think I did earlier this morning 
07:48 < fanquake> cleaned up all the spam PRs and other crap
07:49 < achow101> fanquake: I noticed some wiki vandalism from that user
07:49 < sipa> They were already blocked on the bitcoin org; I also blocked them from the bitcoin-core org.
07:49 < achow101> bips wiki specifically
07:50 < fanquake> I haven't seen anything in the wiki other than spam as of late. Mostly randoms/spammers creating pages. It'd be good to try and lock that down in some way?
07:50 < fanquake> *bips wiki
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07:51 < lightlike> could also cleanup after Miminlaili (24410)
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08:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7cc1860b12a5...c367736f85ac
08:10 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bd6ceb4 whiteh0rse: test: port 'lint-shell.sh' to python
08:10 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c367736 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#24840: test: port 'lint-shell.sh' to python
08:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #24840: test: port 'lint-shell.sh' to python (master...24783-port-lint-shell-to-python) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24840
08:11 < fanquake> lightlike: is that the right PR number?
08:11 < sipa> #24410
08:11 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24410 | [kernel 2a/n] Split hashing/index `GetUTXOStats` codepaths, decouple from `coinstatsindex` by dongcarl · Pull Request #24410 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
08:11 < fanquake> oh right I see
08:12 < fanquake> I have blocked them, and minimized the comments
08:12 < fanquake> but we can't delete reviews unfortunately
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08:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hunglun opened pull request #25069: test: Add a new unit test for chain.cpp (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25069
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08:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c367736f85ac...e4478d312f90
08:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dcad5f7 fanquake: guix: consolidate kernel headers to 5.15
08:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eb02713 fanquake: doc: add minimum required kernel version to dependencies.md
08:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e4478d3 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25006: guix: consolidate kernel headers to 5.15, spe...
08:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25006: guix: consolidate kernel headers to 5.15, specify 3.2.0 as minimum supported (master...specify_minimum_kernel) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25006
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09:19 < fanquake> Looks like #24993 has broken the linter ?
09:19 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24993 | test, contrib, refactor: use `with` when opening a file by brunoerg · Pull Request #24993 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:19 < fanquake> i.e: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/runs/6309423255
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09:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] brunoerg opened pull request #25070: contrib: fix dirname on `verify-commits` (master...2022-05-ci-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25070
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09:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e4478d312f90...460450836304
09:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ded915e brunoerg: contrib: fix dirname on `verify-commits`
09:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4604508 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25070: contrib: fix dirname on `verify-commits`
09:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25070: contrib: fix dirname on `verify-commits` (master...2022-05-ci-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25070
09:46 < fanquake> thanks
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11:49 < theStack> are there currently any alternative concepts availabe or for discussion for BIP322? i'd like to focus more on generic signing support and wonder if there's a reason why the BIP322 PR (#24058) didn't get more traction yet
11:49 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24058 | BIP-322 basic support by kallewoof · Pull Request #24058 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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12:01 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:01 < core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu May  5 19:01:17 2022 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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12:01 < josibake> hi
12:01 < glozow> hi
12:01 < jonatack> hi
12:01 < dongcarl> hi
12:01 < achow101> hi
12:01 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball
12:01 < laanwj> morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
12:02 < instagibbs> :wave:
12:02 < theStack> hi
12:02 < laanwj> there's been one pre-proposed meeting topic for today: package relay updates (glozow)
12:02 < laanwj> any last minute topics?
12:02 < lightlike> hi
12:02 < laanwj> (you can propose meeting topics with #proposedmeetingtopic <topic> during any time of the week)
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12:03 < kanzure> hi
12:03 < kvaciral> hi
12:03 < MarcoFalke> #proposedmeetingtopic LIFETIMEBOUND
12:04 < laanwj> ack
12:04 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
12:04 < core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
12:05 < laanwj> there's 12 blockers and 1 labaled chasing concept ACK in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/projects/8
12:05 < laanwj> anything to add/remove?
12:05 < sipa> hi
12:06 < ajonas> hi
12:06 < theStack> may i ask for #23662 to add (should be easy to review and fixes a significant slowdown of RPC calls that some users were reporting)
12:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23662 | rpc: improve `getreceivedby{address,label}` performance by theStack · Pull Request #23662 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:06 < b10c> hi
12:08 < laanwj> theStack: added!
12:09 < theStack> thanks
12:09 < laanwj> anything else? anything on that list that is (almost) ready for merge?
12:11 < laanwj> seems not, time for next topic then
12:11 < laanwj> #topic Package relay updates (glozow)
12:11 < core-meetingbot> topic: Package relay updates (glozow)
12:11 < glozow> Hi! I originally planned to propose a proposal + roadmap, but I haven't had as much time to prepare for expected questions as I hoped, so I'll defer that to another week. 
12:11 < glozow> I can give updates on what I’m working on, but no proposal this week. So my apologies for the disappointment if anybody came specifically expecting to see a proposal.
12:12 < glozow> I’ve split the project into two groups: mempool logic and p2p relay stuff. Since all the mempool logic apart from package RBF is done, I’m working on a p2p package relay BIP + implementation.
12:13 < laanwj> no problem, we can bring back the topic next week if you prefer that
12:13 < glozow> that would be lovely, thanks so much
12:13 < glozow> #24836 is the PR open for review if anybody wants to help out.  #25038 is also open for browsing as well. Unfortunately there is a pinning attack that it doesn’t fix, so I am working out what to do about it. That’s why it’s a draft.
12:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24836 | add RPC (-regtest only) for testing package policy by glozow · Pull Request #24836 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25038 | BIP125-based Package RBF by glozow · Pull Request #25038 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:14 < glozow> that's all I wanted to share for today, thanks!
12:15 < instagibbs> if I may glozow, which pinning are you referring to? there are so many to choose from
12:15 < instagibbs> or just discuss on thread, nevermind!
12:16 < glozow> instagibbs: yeah good question. it's Rule #3 https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/CoG1SqvV/image.png
12:16 < laanwj> thanks for the quick update, i'll take a look at #24836 some time this week
12:16 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/3 | Encrypt wallet · Issue #3 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:16 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24836 | add RPC (-regtest only) for testing package policy by glozow · Pull Request #24836 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:16 < glozow> yeah we can discuss offline 👍
12:16 < instagibbs> ok on same page :+1:
12:16 < laanwj> #topic LIFETIMEBOUND (MarcoFalke)
12:16 < core-meetingbot> topic: LIFETIMEBOUND (MarcoFalke)
12:17 < MarcoFalke> hi, so the attribute is used in some places
12:17 < MarcoFalke> Though, while it does catch some errors (temporaries), it doesn't catch most other issues
12:17 < MarcoFalke> (lifetime-related issues)
12:17 < jonatack> link for info: https://releases.llvm.org/12.0.0/tools/clang/docs/AttributeReference.html#lifetimebound
12:18 < MarcoFalke> And #20493 
12:18 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20493 | lifetimebound compile attribute · Issue #20493 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:18 < laanwj> is there anything better?
12:18 < sipa> I'd expect cases where temporaries are accidentally passed to be the ones that are most likely to be missed through code review.
12:18 < MarcoFalke> Only at run time: valgrind, msan, asan, etc
12:18 < laanwj> (besides switching to another programming language)
12:18 < laanwj> so i'd say this is the "Better than nothing" category then
12:18 < laanwj> combine it with run-time approaches
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12:18 < sipa> And even if the analysis isn't all that strong, they're still useful as developer documentation.
12:19 < laanwj> and don't add functions that are clearly dangerous like return string views *ducks*
12:19 < MarcoFalke> I think it can be applied pretty broadly, basically everywhere where a pointer/reference is passed and the pointer/reference lifes on after the functions returns
12:20 < laanwj> yes
12:20 < MarcoFalke> So I think if we start applying them, the code will become a bit more verbose
12:20 < MarcoFalke> Just wanted to see if anyone would want to object that
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12:21 < sipa> Just in function/constructor declarations, rights?
12:21 < laanwj> it depends on how much more verbose
12:21 < jonatack> I don't think it's too bad, see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25060/files for an example
12:22 < MarcoFalke> #20493  has a list, but it is not complete
12:22 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20493 | lifetimebound compile attribute · Issue #20493 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:22 < laanwj> i mean there's clearly some degree of verbosity where it just becomes silly make-work and isn't worth it compared that what is gained
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12:22 < MarcoFalke> I think it is missing any stuff that was recently added at least: m_params references, and potentially more CBlockIndex passing
12:23 < laanwj> jonatack: that doesn't look bad
12:23 < laanwj> sipa: seems so then?
12:24 < MarcoFalke> Right, it only attaches to functions or function parameters
12:24 < laanwj> also important is how difficult it is to maintain, e.g. can we expect a lot of false positives when people compile with a different compiler
12:24 < sipa> Yeah, I don't mind adding them. I don't think we go start hunting down every last place where such an attribute could be added, but there seem to be very little downsides to adding them where appropriate.
12:25 < laanwj> (remembers -Wshadow)
12:25 < sipa> it preprocesses to nothing on non-clang compilers
12:25 < laanwj> right
12:25 < MarcoFalke> When I added it in #22278 for CScript I actually ran into the bug before, but for other places, I am less sure if it will be equally useful
12:25 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/22278 | Add LIFETIMEBOUND to CScript where needed by MarcoFalke · Pull Request #22278 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:26 < laanwj> well i think it's fine to add them then
12:26 < sipa> which bug?
12:26 < MarcoFalke> I did some odd CScript{ stuff } in tests and broke valgrind
12:26 < josibake> if it's encouraged to add them where appropriate, can we add something to the developer docs? perhaps a brief explanation of why to use them?
12:27 < sipa> hmm
12:27 < josibake> s/them/it
12:27 < MarcoFalke> Probably was []{return CScript{} << 1;}()
12:29 < MarcoFalke> Ah no, []-> decltype(auto) {return CScript{} << 1;}()
12:29 < MarcoFalke> Pretty obscure
12:29 < sipa> Is that returning a `CScript` or a (const) `CScript&`?
12:30 < sipa> (the latter would actually be a lifetime issue)
12:30 < MarcoFalke> operator<< returns &
12:30 < MarcoFalke> sipa: Yeah, that was the reason I added LIFETIMEBOUND
12:30 < sipa> Yes, but doesn't `-> decltype(auto)` return a non-reference?
12:30 < MarcoFalke> no, IIRC
12:31 < sipa> ok
12:31 < sipa> Sounds like the lifetimebound is doing its job then.
12:32 < jonatack> josibake: good point. i'll propose a doc along with another (non-contentious) developer notes improvement i have in mind
12:32 < MarcoFalke> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/20495#issuecomment-734236027 
12:33 < sipa> decltype(auto) apparently can indeed deduce a reference type
12:34 < laanwj> that's quite a footgun in itself
12:36 < josibake> jonatack: ty!
12:36 < laanwj> any other topics?
12:38 < laanwj> seems like not; time to close the meeting, thanks for attending everyone
12:38 < laanwj> #endmeeting
12:38 < core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
12:38 < core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu May  5 19:38:19 2022 UTC.  
12:38 < core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-05-05-19.01.moin.txt
12:38 < jonatack> MarcoFalke: i've misplaced the url to your online  test coverage report by codebase area
12:39 < jonatack> can you please remind me of the link?
12:39 < MarcoFalke> https://marcofalke.github.io/btc_cov/total.coverage/index.html 
12:39 < jonatack> ty!
12:39 < MarcoFalke> https://marcofalke.github.io/btc_cov/fuzz.coverage/index.html
12:39 < MarcoFalke> heh, index: https://marcofalke.github.io/btc_cov/
12:40 < jonatack> purrfect
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13:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Crypt-iQ closed pull request #24901: mempool: reduce lookups, insertions to cache in UpdateForDescendants (master...mempool_desc_patch) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24901
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14:33 < jonatack> The "Safer Usage Of C++" document mentioned by MarcoFalke in https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20493#issuecomment-1113589139, and in particular the "Annotate Lifetimes" section, seems quite good.
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18:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Crypt-iQ opened pull request #25071: test: remove unused BasicTestingSetup from sock_tests (master...socktests_setup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25071
18:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Crypt-iQ closed pull request #25071: test: remove unused BasicTestingSetup from sock_tests (master...socktests_setup) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25071
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