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00:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ishaanam opened pull request #25562: test: add tests for negative waste during coin selection (master...negative_waste_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25562
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04:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aeab1b42e67c...67c6b61f96de
04:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eac1099 Ayush Sharma: test: remove wallet dependency  from mempool_updatefromblock.py
04:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67c6b61 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25525: test: remove wallet dependency  from mempool_...
04:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25525: test: remove wallet dependency  from mempool_updatefromblock.py (master...updatefromblock_no_wallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25525
04:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #24183: test: use MiniWallet for mempool_updatefromblock.py (master...mempool-updatefromblock-miniwallet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24183
05:00 < willcl_ark> hebasto and ryanofsky did one of you have a gist/issue describing the threads of Bitcoin Core in some detail (sorry if I'm misremembering)?
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05:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/67c6b61f96de...bac52a1cfe99
05:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6eb0909 chinggg: fuzz: add low-level target for txorphanage
05:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bac52a1 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25447: fuzz: add low-level target for txorphanage
05:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25447: fuzz: add low-level target for txorphanage (master...fuzz-txorphan) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25447
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05:16 < jonatack> willcl_ark: (maybe) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/doc/developer-notes.md#threads
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05:38 < willcl_ark> thanks jonatack, I'm sure I've seen another document too though...
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05:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #25564: Move DEFAULT_MAX_ORPHAN_TRANSACTIONS to node/txorphanage.h (master...2207-txorphan-move-🚐) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25564
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06:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #25565: doc: improve developer-notes about threads (master...doc_threads) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25565
06:27 < vasild> willcl_ark: jonatack: ^
06:27 < willcl_ark> Aha!
06:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bac52a1cfe99...5ab6a942764b
06:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8d869a7 glozow: add glozow builder key
06:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5ab6a94 laanwj: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25552: add glozow builder key
06:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj merged pull request #25552: add glozow builder key (master...glozow-builder-key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25552
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07:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5ab6a942764b...8ef096d4f8e0
07:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2222842 MacroFake: test: Allow absolute fee in MiniWallet create_self_transfer
07:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fac3800 MacroFake: test: Allow amount_per_output in MiniWallet create_self_transfer_multi
07:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa29245 MacroFake: test: Allow setting sequence per input in MiniWallet create_self_transfer_...
07:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25522: test: Remove -acceptnonstdtxn=1 from feature_rbf.py (master...2207-test-rbf-acceptnonstdtxn-🐁) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25522
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08:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8ef096d4f8e0...c49b0405fbb7
08:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5bff18b Andrew Chow: guix: patch gcc 10 with pthreads to remap guix store paths
08:36 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c49b040 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25558: guix: Make windows cross architecture reprodu...
08:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25558: guix: Make windows cross architecture reproducible (master...guix-win-cross-arch-repro) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25558
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08:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c49b0405fbb7...a658a02c79eb
08:50 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ebe106a glozow: add glozow to trusted-keys
08:50 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a658a02 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25524: add glozow to trusted-keys
08:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25524: add glozow to trusted-keys (master...glozow-key) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25524
08:51 < darosior> Congrats glozow :)
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08:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25373: Support ignoring "opt-in" flag for RBF (aka full RBF) (master...fullrbf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25373
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09:08 < sipa> #proposedmeetingtopic two short announcements
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09:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/a658a02c79eb...d571cf2d2421
09:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 42aa5d5 dergoegge: [net] Add NoBan status to NodeEvictionCandidate
09:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a3c2707 dergoegge: [net] Add connection type to NodeEvictionCandidate
09:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c741d74 Cory Fields: [net] Move ConnectionType to its own file
09:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25500: refactor: Move inbound eviction logic to its own translation unit (master...2022-06-evictionman-1ofN) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25500
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09:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d571cf2d2421...5abbc9afec18
09:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0a53d5 Patrick Strateman: Make sanity check in GCSFilter constructor optional
09:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 299023c Patrick Strateman: Add GCSFilterDecode and GCSBlockFilterGetHash benchmarks.
09:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master aee9a81 Patrick Strateman: Add GCSFilterDecodeSkipCheck benchmark
09:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #24832: index: Verify the block filter hash when reading the filter from disk. (master...2020-06-14-blockfilterindex-checksums) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/24832
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11:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] 1440000bytes opened pull request #25566: wallet: add `outputs` argument to bumpfee and psbtbumpfee RPC for replacing outputs (master...replace-outputs-rbf) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25566
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12:00 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:00 <@core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Jul  7 19:00:12 2022 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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12:00 < achow101> hi
12:00 < brunoerg> HI
12:00 < fanquake> hi
12:00 < furszy> hi
12:00 < hebasto> hi
12:00 < dunxen> hi
12:00 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo
12:00 < laanwj> moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
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12:00 < lightlike> hi
12:00 < sipa> hi
12:01 < ariard> hi
12:01 < jarolrod> hi
12:01 < laanwj> one proposed meeting topic this week: two short announcements (sipa)
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12:01 < glozow> hi
12:01 < jeremyrubin> hi
12:01 < b10c> hi
12:01 < instagibbs> hi
12:01 < laanwj> any last minute topics?
12:01 < Murch> hi
12:02 < kanzure> hi
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12:03 < jamesob> hi
12:03 < dongcarl> hi
12:03 < willcl_ark> Hi
12:03 < laanwj> hi
12:03 < laanwj> okay, let's start with the announcements
12:03 < laanwj> #topic Two short announcements
12:03 <@core-meetingbot> topic: Two short announcements
12:03 < sipa> ok
12:04 < sipa> the first is that i've come to realize it's time for me to step down as maintainer
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12:05 < sipa> i'm not intending to change anything about what i do or work on, but the reality is that i haven't used my maintainer privileged for almost two years, but also more in general my interests have shifted and i'm not as closely involved with the codebase anymore
12:06 < laanwj> sad to see you go
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12:06 < laanwj> but if you're hardly using commit access it definitely makes sense to drop it
12:06 < kanzure> will you still be a contributor even if periodic or incidentally?
12:06 < gleb745438685291> hi
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12:06 < sipa> and with the discussions the past week i realized there is no need to keep my privileges if i don't use them
12:07 < dunxen> Thanks, Pieter! glad to know you’ll continue working on what you do now!
12:07 < laanwj> yes!
12:07 < sipa> kanzure: Yes, definitely - nothing changes there. Though lately the projects I work on are more research-oriented, like miniscript, bip324, and various other things. I plan to keep writing code and reviewing.
12:07 < jeremyrubin> Thanks for all the hard work over the years sipa!
12:08 < jeremyrubin> Do you intend to stay a maintainer of libsecp256k1?
12:08 < brunoerg> thanks, pieter! 
12:08 < sipa> jeremyrubin: yes!
12:08 < josibake___> hi
12:08 < willcl_ark> Thanks for your noteworthy and numerous contributions Pieter!
12:08 < jeremyrubin> sipa: fantastic :)
12:08 < sipa> In fact that's the second short announcement: libsecp256k1 now has IRC meetings too, every two weeks, 15:00 UTC on mondays; the next one is the 18th.
12:09 < jarolrod> sipa: on this channel or another channel?
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12:09 < luke-jr> this one is quiet enough I'd almost suggest combining it in ;)
12:09 < sipa> I've had this lingering guilt about not being to spend as much time with the codebase and doing review... and I still plan to at some point get back to doing more of that, but I also have lots of other things going on.
12:10 < sipa> jarolrod: on the #secp256k1 channel
12:10 < jarolrod> sipa: don't think you have anything to apologize for :D
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12:10 < josibake___> sipa: thanks for your work as a maintainer and glad to hear you will still be coding/reviewing :) 
12:10 < cfields_> late hi
12:10 < jeremyrubin> luke-jr: personally I think separate channels are really great as they make logs much more easily searched 
12:11 < luke-jr> jeremyrubin: "almost" ;)
12:11 < sipa> That's it for me, unless people have more questions.
12:12 < cfields_> sipa: thanks for your time as maintainer, glad to hear that your contributions won't be changing much :)
12:12 < jeremyrubin> oh one other q
12:13 < jeremyrubin> do you intend to retain status as PoC for security issues?
12:13 < ariard> i think PoC for security issues can be dissociated from maintenance, at least we do that for LDK
12:13 < instagibbs> point of contact(tried for 5 seconeds to figure out what that was)
12:14 < jarolrod> ^^^ i guess on that note, there's also the question on elevated privileges, such as being able to ban spammers 
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12:14 < jeremyrubin> jarolrod: i think a lot of people have those github bits as a convenience, already separate from maintainership
12:15 < gleb1> from some brief interactions with those security communication channels, i remember sipa did good job at handling them
12:15 < achow101> iirc the security email has multiple non-maintainers on it
12:15 < instagibbs> banning is only done for egregious spamming afaik
12:15 < achow101> jeremyrubin: banning requires admin perms, which only a few of the maintainers have
12:15 < sipa> I'm in no rush to change anything, so if it's helpful to stay on as security PoC, or even keep privileges to ban people, I'm happy to do that.
12:16 < jeremyrubin> achow101: i don't send to the security email precisely because I don't know who is on it, prefer to communicate to a particular developer about an issue with encryption if there is a problem 
12:16 < jeremyrubin> gleb1: +1 :)
12:17 < luke-jr> jeremyrubin: encryption works in email too ;)
12:17 < jeremyrubin> sipa: thanks for clairfying, just wanted to be sure such communications were still welcome 
12:17 < sipa> But I also think over time those functions should move to others.
12:17 < real_or_random> jeremyrubin: see https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/SECURITY.md
12:17 < laanwj> tbh the security email mostly only gets spam and support requests anyway
12:17 < jeremyrubin> luke-jr: yes, but there's not a key for the security email so it's not clear who i should encrypt it to for that list
12:17 < kanzure> jeremy do you have something you're holding
12:18 < jeremyrubin> kanzure?
12:18 < luke-jr> jeremyrubin: see real_or_random's link
12:18 < jeremyrubin> yes im familiar with the link, sipa is listed there, that's all i'm asking about
12:18 < real_or_random> you could encrypt to any subset of those three people
12:19 < sipa> any non-empty subset
12:19 < achow101> encrypting to any of the keys listed for the security email is fine, I expect it get forwarded/put in contact with the appropriate people
12:19 < real_or_random> maybe this could be made clearer
12:19 < real_or_random> sipa: well, if you don't want to report the vulnerability...
12:20 < sipa> it's a bit strange to send a mail to the security list, not knowing who's on it, but then encrypt it to just specific people (for which it's not even explicit that they're on that list)
12:21 < jeremyrubin> sipa: yes, exactly. but it's an aside, someone can clean that up out of band of the meeting
12:21 < sipa> the security list does indeed mostly get spam ("the email on bitcoincore.org is not properly configured!")
12:22 < laanwj> yes, or 'i lost my wallet' or other vague requests like 'i want my spam article to be featured on the site'
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12:23 < real_or_random> yeah, most of the strangest emails I have received in my life were sent to secp256k1-security@bitcoincore.org
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12:24 < real_or_random> (for example, a link to a google doc containing nothing but the developer documentation of libjpeg)
12:24 < real_or_random> sorry, I don't want to disrupt the meeting here ^^ 
12:25 < luke-jr> real_or_random: perhaps malware intended to exploit a browser 0day ;)
12:26 < laanwj> another announcement: welcome glozow as mempool/relay policy maintainer!
12:26 < sipa> \o/
12:26 < josibake___> glozow: congrats! 
12:26 < gleb1> great news
12:27 < cfields_> 🚀
12:27 < jarolrod> glozow: 🎉
12:28 < laanwj> congrats glozow 
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12:29 < laanwj> #topic high priority for review
12:29 <@core-meetingbot> topic: high priority for review
12:29 < laanwj> 10 blockers and 2 chasing concept ACK in https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/1
12:29 < laanwj> anything to add or remove?
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12:30 < laanwj> or that looks ready for merge?
12:30 < gleb1> #23443 got some new reviewers last week, thank you! I addressed all the comments, and it's ready again :)
12:30 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/23443 | p2p: Erlay support signaling by naumenkogs · Pull Request #23443 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:31 < laanwj> gleb1: great!
12:32 < josibake___> not really "high priority" but #24584 is freshly rebased and ready for review. feels close to ready
12:32 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24584 | wallet: avoid mixing different `OutputTypes` during coin selection by josibake · Pull Request #24584 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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12:32 < ariard> #25353 should be near-too, i'm thinking to address the open nits in a follow-up
12:33 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25353 | Add a `-mempoolfullrbf` node setting by ariard · Pull Request #25353 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:33 < laanwj> ariard: agree, that one's taking long enough for a straightforward change :)
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12:35 < ariard> if any substantive comments or issues, i'll address them quickly
12:35 < laanwj> josibake___: would you like that added?
12:36 < josibake___> laanwj: sure! if there are no objections 
12:38 < laanwj> josibake___: not from me at least, added
12:38 < josibake___> ty!
12:40 < laanwj> anything else to add/remove? any other topics?
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12:42 < laanwj> #endmeeting
12:42 <@core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
12:42 <@core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Jul  7 19:42:05 2022 UTC.  
12:42 <@core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-07-07-19.00.moin.txt
12:42 < ariard> thanks again sipa for the years of maintenance!
12:45 < laanwj> yes! thanks sipa
12:46 < instagibbs> hear hear
12:47 < sipa> :)
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12:56 < glozow> thank you sipa for everything you do!
12:57 < glozow> and thanks laanwj darosior josibake___ gleb1 jarolrod cfields_ and everyone :)
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13:11 < dongcarl> Hi all, I'm wondering how we commit to the RPC output, like if I wanted to change a field name in getmempoolinfo, is there a deprecation period or something?
13:13 < laanwj> dongcarl: depends really on a case by case basis, but i'd say at least one major release deprecation period
13:14 < MacroFake> sipa: Thanks for what you have done so far and good to hear that you keep doing what you do :)
13:14 < MacroFake> dongcarl: If the field was added in the master branch, then no period is needed
13:21 < dongcarl> Okay I see!
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13:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #25568: Remove my key from trusted-keys (master...202207_dropme) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25568
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14:48 < achow101> if I run verify-commits.py locally, it seems to be choking on MacroFake's commits
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14:48 < achow101> any idea why?
14:50 < sipsorcery> sipa: thanks!
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15:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] dimapv opened pull request #25569: Add initial support for jemalloc (23.x...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25569
15:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25569: Add initial support for jemalloc (23.x...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25569
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15:13 < achow101> oh I just forgot to refresh keys, no problems here
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21:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #25570: mempool: Add the `bypass_{csv,cltv}` option to `testmempoolaccept` (master...bypass-op-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25570
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22:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] LarryRuane opened pull request #25571: refactor: Make mapBlocksUnknownParent local, and rename it (master...2022-07-mapBlocksUnknownParent) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25571
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23:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5abbc9afec18...172823e4d5da
23:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8cbeab4 Pieter Wuille: Remove my key from trusted-keys
23:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 172823e MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25568: Remove my key from trusted-keys
23:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25568: Remove my key from trusted-keys (master...202207_dropme) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25568
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