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00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/93999a5fbe31...cd230f3281fb
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9f9339c Hennadii Stepanov: msvc: Drop `_SILENCE_CXX17_OLD_ALLOCATOR_MEMBERS_DEPRECATION_WARNING`
00:11 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cd230f3 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25816: msvc: Drop `_SILENCE_CXX17_OLD_ALLOCATOR_MEMB...
00:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25816: msvc: Drop `_SILENCE_CXX17_OLD_ALLOCATOR_MEMBERS_DEPRECATION_WARNING` (master...220810-msvc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25816
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02:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cd230f3281fb...0094ff3947be
02:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 70a55c0 Andrew Chow: psbt: Avoid unsigned int overflow in PSBT_IN_TAP_BIP32_DERIVATION
02:12 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0094ff3 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25812: psbt: Avoid unsigned int overflow in PSBT_IN_...
02:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25812: psbt: Avoid unsigned int overflow in PSBT_IN_TAP_BIP32_DERIVATION (master...psbt-hd-path-int-overflow) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25812
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04:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow opened pull request #25820: [test] make tx6 child of tx5, not tx3, in rbf_tests (master...2022-08-rbf-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25820
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06:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0094ff3947be...dd62721ba9c1
06:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 49db42c glozow: [test] make tx6 child of tx5, not tx3, in rbf_tests
06:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dd62721 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25820: [test] make tx6 child of tx5, not tx3, in rbf...
06:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25820: [test] make tx6 child of tx5, not tx3, in rbf_tests (master...2022-08-rbf-test-fix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25820
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07:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #25822: build: use package_cc for linux qt build (master...test_22184) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25822
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08:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dd62721ba9c1...243d7bde7859
08:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5474f5c fanquake: build: fix cleanup of test logs
08:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 243d7bd Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25798: build: fix cleanup of test logs
08:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25798: build: fix cleanup of test logs (master...fix_make_clean_and_distcheck) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25798
09:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/243d7bde7859...29c195cf6a2c
09:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8b3d2bb w0xlt: test: add tests for `datacarrier` and `datacarriersize` options
09:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 29c195c MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25792: test: add tests for `datacarrier` and `dataca...
09:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25792: test: add tests for `datacarrier` and `datacarriersize` options (master...test_data_carrier) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25792
09:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow opened pull request #25825: wallet: consolidate CoinSelectionParams::m_change_target and m_min_change_target (master...2022-08-change-targets) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25825
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10:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/29c195cf6a2c...e078ee9d9d0a
10:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c232ef2 Antoine Poinsot: outputtype: remove redundant check for uncompressed keys in AddAndGetDesti...
10:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b16f93c Antoine Poinsot: script/sign: remove needless IsSolvable() utility
10:42 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e078ee9 Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25664: refactor: Redefine `IsSolvable()` using descr...
10:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25664: refactor: Redefine `IsSolvable()` using descriptors (master...redefine_issolvable) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25664
10:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e078ee9d9d0a...e5d8b6542397
10:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2e79fb6 Carl Dong: validation tests: Use existing {Chainstate,Block}Man
10:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e5d8b65 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25815: test: Use existing {Chainstate,Block}Man
10:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25815: test: Use existing {Chainstate,Block}Man (master...2208-test-cherry-🥕) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25815
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12:01 < laanwj> #startmeeting
12:01 <@core-meetingbot> Meeting started Thu Aug 11 19:01:18 2022 UTC.  The chair is laanwj. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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12:01 < fanquake> Hi
12:01 < hebasto> hi
12:01 < josie[m]> hi
12:01 < sipsorcery> hi
12:01 < laanwj> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard b10c BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo
12:01 < laanwj> moneyball morcos nehan NicolasDorier paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar sipa vasild
12:01 < kanzure> hi
12:01 < achow101> hi
12:01 < sipa> hi
12:01 < cfields> hi
12:02 < stickies-v> hi
12:02 < kvaciral> hi
12:02 < laanwj> first a personal announcement: as you might have heard rumors, i'm stepping down as maintainer of bitcoin core
12:03 < laanwj> it's been quite an adventure the last, 10 years or so! but it's time for me to do something else
12:03 < kanzure> sorry to hear that; do you plan to continue writing bitcoin software?
12:04 < achow101> laanwj: sorry to hear that, thank you for all of the work you've done over the years
12:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e5d8b6542397...5d294bccbae5
12:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master acda7e8 glozow: [coin selection] consolidate m_change_target and m_min_change_target
12:04 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5d294bc Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25825: wallet: consolidate CoinSelectionParams::m_ch...
12:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25825: wallet: consolidate CoinSelectionParams::m_change_target and m_min_change_target (master...2022-08-change-targets) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25825
12:05 < laanwj> kanzure: i'm not sure yet; to start, i'll not merge anything anymore and not do the releases anymore
12:05 < sipa> laanwj: It's not a surprise, and I very much understand where you're coming from - but I'm still sad to see you go. Thank you so much for carrying the project all this time; it certainly wasn't easy. Good luck, with whatever comes next.
12:05 < laanwj> i'm not planning to completely disappear
12:05 < cfields> laanwj: thanks for those 10 years. what an amazing legacy!
12:05 < kanzure> glad you're not disappearing, and thank you for all the hard work
12:05 < stickies-v> thank you for all those years of dedication and great work, sad I wasn't part of it for longer but very much appreciated!
12:06 < josie[m]> laanwj: feels a bit trite to just say thanks for 10 years of work, but seriously, thank you. not only for your contributions but for also being welcoming to new contributors (like myself)
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12:07 < laanwj> it makes me sad too, but, i'm having burnout and health issues, i just cannot do this anymore
12:07 < laanwj> thank you!
12:07 < cold> thank you for being excellent.
12:08 < laanwj> we have some great and enthousiastic maintainers who are already doing most of the work right now, so i'm confident the project will carry on being great
12:08 < achow101> that does bring up a few logistical questions though. like management of the github orgs and the bitcoincore.org website
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12:08 < kanzure> are you planning to attend the october meeting
12:09 < laanwj> kanzure: probably
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12:09 < instagibbs> retirement party, with cake
12:09 < instagibbs> jk
12:09 < kanzure> yes
12:09 < cfields> :)
12:09 < laanwj> achow101: yes
12:10 < laanwj> instagibbs: lol!
12:10 < laanwj> ok, that was my announcement, we don't need to figure out every single detail in the meeting
12:10 < cold> (with a person inside who bursts out and distributes high-quality sbc that use ecc and have lots of ram on them for everyone)
12:10 < cold> (sorry)
12:11 < laanwj> cold: lol
12:11 < laanwj> i don't think there were any pre-proposed meetings this week (you can propose them with #proposedmeetingtopic)
12:11 < laanwj> any last minute ones?
12:12 < jarolrod> a note of appreciation for people like fanquake and MacroFake who do so much, and will surely do a great job on high level project organization in laanwj absence 
12:13 < sipa> Indeed, jarolrod!
12:13 < laanwj> jarolrod: +1!
12:14 < laanwj> they have already been doing that, i have been less involved over time
12:14 < laanwj> #topic High priority for review
12:14 <@core-meetingbot> topic: High priority for review
12:15 < instagibbs> 4 days from feature freeze, yes?
12:15 < glozow> thank you for everything you’ve done laanwj 🙏
12:15 < instagibbs> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/24987
12:15 < achow101> feature freeze is monday
12:15 < laanwj> achow101: correct
12:16 < laanwj> so maybe better to discuss what features still have to make it
12:16 < laanwj> or at least ,ideally should
12:16 < sipa> I'd very much like to see 25717 in, though perhaps it can be seen as a bug fix?
12:17 < achow101> I'd really like #19602 but it might be too late for that
12:17 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19602 | wallet: Migrate legacy wallets to descriptor wallets by achow101 · Pull Request #19602 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:18 < instagibbs> #25717
12:18 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25717 | p2p: Implement anti-DoS headers sync by sdaftuar · Pull Request #25717 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:19 < MacroFake> laanwj: Sad to see you go (and the reason for your departure), but I can relate. Thank you for all your work and all the best for your health and whatever is ahead.
12:19 < fanquake> I think we could get both of those in. Even if it meant pushing feature freeze back slight. Both worthwhile. Would be good to help the wallet migration on.
12:19 < laanwj> added #25717 to milestone
12:19 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25717 | p2p: Implement anti-DoS headers sync by sdaftuar · Pull Request #25717 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:20 < laanwj> 19602 already has it, it seems
12:21 < achow101> yeah, just hasn't really gotten review
12:21 < laanwj> glozow: MacroFake: thank you
12:22 < laanwj> if everyone wants those two PRs to make it in i'm sure we can get some review
12:23 < MacroFake> Are there any non-bugfix features that would be good in 24.0? Maybe #19602 ? If it looks like they'll receive enough review in a week or so, we could postpone the feature freeze by that much?
12:23 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/19602 | wallet: Migrate legacy wallets to descriptor wallets by achow101 · Pull Request #19602 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
12:23 < laanwj> though wallet migration is kind of risky, maybe it could be added as experimental, not as something recommended
12:24 < instagibbs> or just longer seasoning in master post-split?
12:24 < achow101> it could be marked experimental
12:24 < laanwj> it's something that needs testing with a wide variety of wallets, probably best way to get that is to put it in a rc
12:25 < achow101> it's also rpc only, and no mention of it anywhere else, so the only people who would use it are those seeking it out
12:25 < laanwj> but as experimental, and easy to roll back if it doesn't work as expected
12:25 < laanwj> right
12:25 < luke-jr> -experimentalrpc= perhaps in the most extreme case
12:26 < achow101> I don't think that will be necessary
12:26 < laanwj> that would be more extreme, i think just not recommending it yet, and mentioining it in the help that it is experimental, is enough in practice
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12:27 < laanwj> MacroFake: right
12:29 < laanwj> ok, any other proposed features? any other topics?
12:31 < laanwj> if not, closing the meeting, see you next time, well i guess we'll need to find someone else to do the meeting too, though no hurry
12:32 < laanwj> #endmeeting
12:32 <@core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
12:32 <@core-meetingbot> Meeting ended Thu Aug 11 19:32:15 2022 UTC.  
12:32 <@core-meetingbot> Minutes:        https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings/logs/bitcoin-core-dev/2022/bitcoin-core-dev.2022-08-11-19.01.moin.txt
12:32 < hebasto> #proposedmeetingtopic CMake-based build system (pr25797)
12:32 < hebasto> ^ next week
12:32 < josie[m]> laanwj: dont have to lead the meetings , but hope to still see you around (as much as you can see people around on IRC)
12:33 < laanwj> hebasto: eh yeah, a little bit too late :P
12:33 < hebasto> laanwj: on time, for next week :D
12:34 < laanwj> josie[m]: sure yes i'll not just disappear from here, i'll also still review things now and then
12:46 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> is testnet replaced by signet?
12:47 < instagibbs> Kaizen_Kintsugi_, no
12:47 < laanwj> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: not replaced, but for most intents and purposes signet is way preferable
12:47 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ./bitcoind -chain=testnet is erroring for me
12:47 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> so is ./bitcoind -testnet
12:47 < sipa> "erroring" isn't very useful
12:47 < sipa> What error do you get? Where?
12:47 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Error: CreateBaseChainParams: Unknown chain testnet.
12:47 < sipa> wah
12:47 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> signet worked fine for me
12:47 < instagibbs> oO
12:48 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> let me see what branch i'm on, i think a recent pull of master
12:50 < laanwj> that definitely sounds like a bug
12:50 < sipa> What exact commit are you on?
12:51 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> is that git show?
12:51 < laanwj> git rev-parse HEAD
12:51 < instagibbs> yep
12:51 < sipa> yeah, for example
12:51 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> commit b1a2021f78099c17360dc2179cbcb948059b5969 (HEAD -> master, origin/master, origin/HEAD)
12:51 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm a bit of a noob obv
12:52 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I wonder if it something in my config settings
12:52 < sipa> Is it possible you made any code changes, and aren't actually running that commit?
12:52 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> is there away to prove that through a hash?
12:52 < sipa> Because that output really makes no sense.
12:53 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> yea i thought it was weird
12:53 < sipa> `./bitcoind -version`
12:53 < achow101> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: what version does ./bitcoind -version say?
12:53 < achow101> it will have -dirty on the end if there are uncommitted changes
12:53 < fanquake> it's -chain=test for one
12:54 < instagibbs> -testnet v -chain=test ?
12:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> gah
12:54 < achow101> instagibbs: they should be the same thing
12:54 < sipa> `./bitcoind -testnet` works fine for me?
12:54 < stickies-v> can confirm it works with `-chain=test` but not with `-chain=testnet`, as fanquake indicates
12:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Bitcoin Core version v23.99.0-b1a2021f7809-dirty
12:55 < sipa> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: Does `bitcoind -testnet` not work?
12:55 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> yea that works
12:55 < instagibbs> -chain=testnet <--- this is the one that doesnt
12:55 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ookay I'm reading outdated info
12:55 < sipa> Ok, mystery solved then.
12:55 < achow101> shitty naming strikes again
12:55 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> but it seems like I should be using signet
12:56 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> https://github.com/BlockchainCommons/Learning-Bitcoin-from-the-Command-Line
12:56 < sipa> That depends. If you want testnet, use testnet. If you want signet, use signet :)
12:56 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm doing this
12:56 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm just going through all the commands and trying to get strong understanding of the software
13:00 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Thanks for the help everyone
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13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I think I found a bug that might be within my ability to fix
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ./bitcoind -regtest
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ************************
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> EXCEPTION: St13runtime_error       
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Invalid combination of -regtest, -signet, -testnet and -chain. Can use at most one.       
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> bitcoin in AppInit() 
13:08 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ./bitcoind -chain=regtest works
13:08 < sipa> Please don't copy-paste text in IRC, use a pastebin site.
13:09 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> oh, i was wondering what the proper procedure was
13:09 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'll make sure I do that next time
13:11 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> How is this https://pastebin.com/4K6uGCxr
13:11 < sipa> Do you have `chain=X` in your bitcoin.cinf?
13:11 < sipa> conf
13:11 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> i bet I do
13:12 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> yup
13:12 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I sure do
13:12 < sipa> It's combining the config entries from the file and the command line.
13:12 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Is this worthy of a bug or just my miss use of the software?
13:12 < sipa> It is functioning exactly as intended. You're giving it two distinct contradictory instructions.
13:13 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Cool
13:13 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Would the error message benefit from stating that a chain argument is coming from conf and the commandline?
13:14 < sipa> Maybe. I'm not sure if our config logic currently even tracks where things come from.
13:14 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Ah sounds a bit more complicated than I thought.
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15:32 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Is there any guidance or resources on debugging bitcoin, Ideally I would like to run it through vscode, run a command and go through each of the steps of the software
15:33 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I found this https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/110163/building-bitcoin-core-on-linux-ubuntu-with-visual-studio-code
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15:50 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Some odd differences between signet and main, I'm running two different bitcoind nodes(is this the way? or can one node operate across many chains?) getnewaddress is requesting an rpcwallet filename
15:51 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> https://pastebin.com/fUPxdX0n
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16:17 < sipa> @Kaizen_Kintsugi_ It may be better to take this to https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com; this isn't really a place for support.
16:18 < sipa> But in short, no, that's not how it works. You need a separate running bitcoind for every network you want to interact with.
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16:23 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I suspected, thanks, Ill head over to stack exchange
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18:07 < ariard> laanwj: many thanks for the ~10y of project maintenance and the standard set in terms of dedication and commitment in that space, I wish you the really best for your personal projects and I hope you'll keep contributing to the repo 
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22:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] w0xlt opened pull request #25827: descriptor: check if `rawtr` has only one key. (master...expr_rawtr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25827
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23:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5d294bccbae5...27724c23f72b
23:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9376a6d Aurèle Oulès: refactor: make active_chain_tip a reference
23:34 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 27724c2 MacroFake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25677: refactor: make active_chain_tip a reference
23:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #25677: refactor: make active_chain_tip a reference (master...2022-07-make-active-chain-ref) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25677
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