--- Log opened Sun Aug 14 00:00:49 2022
00:09 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:12 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
00:14 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:14 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:14 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:14 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:15 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:15 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:16 -!- yanmaani [~yanmaani@gateway/tor-sasl/yanmaani] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:25 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:30 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:32 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:37 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
00:40 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
00:42 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:47 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:58 -!- SpellChecker_ [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:58 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:58 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
00:58 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
00:58 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
01:00 -!- SpellChecker [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
01:44 -!- weez22 [~weez22@user/weez22] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
02:02 -!- Earnest [~earnest@user/earnestly] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:03 -!- Earnestly [~earnest@user/earnestly] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
02:05 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
02:33 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
02:37 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
02:50 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:50 -!- SpellChecker [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
02:50 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
02:50 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
02:51 -!- SpellChecker [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
02:54 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
03:00 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:02 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
03:02 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:25 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:26 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
03:30 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has quit [Quit: Connection closed]
03:34 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:35 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:36 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has quit [Client Quit]
03:40 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
03:56 -!- aleggg [~aleggg@177.204.247.234.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
04:03 -!- infernix [nix@spirit.infernix.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
04:19 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
04:31 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
04:33 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
04:38 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
04:47 -!- Guest1 [~Guest1@2001:861:50:4130:6217:c0a8:b723:836] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
04:49 -!- Guest1 [~Guest1@2001:861:50:4130:6217:c0a8:b723:836] has quit [Client Quit]
04:49 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@user/alina-malina] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
04:51 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@user/alina-malina] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
04:55 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:04 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
05:30 -!- Alina-ma- [~Alina-mal@37.252.80.195] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:30 -!- Alina-malina [~Alina-mal@user/alina-malina] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
05:37 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:41 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:41 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:44 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:51 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:51 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
05:51 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
05:51 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
06:16 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
06:29 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
06:33 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. Anywhere.]
06:34 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
06:35 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
06:35 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Client Quit]
06:37 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
06:39 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds]
06:51 < elichai2> The COutpoint.hash is already a cryptographic hash function, so can't `SaltedOutpointHasher` be just a `(id.hash + id.n) ^ salt`? instead of calling siphash? (referring to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/master/src/util/hasher.h#L51)
06:52 < sipa> That would depend on the purpose of that hash, but in general that sounds very unsafe to me.
06:53 < sipa> If an attacker can observe behavior that derives from the result of that "hash", they can learn the salt, and then grind hashes to achieve whatever effect you were preventing them to get by using a salted hash.
06:56 < elichai2> hmmm you're right, xor is too straight forward for that. Another thing is, does it give any advantage to feed siphash the full SHA256 digest instead of just the first 64bits considering that siphash is also 64bits? 
06:58 < elichai2> (I also see that `BlockHasher` just reads the first 64bits, but supposedly it's very expensive to DoS the hash of a block because of PoW)
06:59 < sipa> Yeah, blocks are subject to the world's best DoS resistance system already.
07:48 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
07:54 -!- andytoshi [~apoelstra@user/andytoshi] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
08:00 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
08:07 -!- aleggg [~aleggg@179.176.71.206.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
08:35 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
08:40 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds]
08:51 -!- sudoforge [~sudoforge@wireguard/tunneler/sudoforge] has quit [Quit: 404]
08:51 -!- sudoforge [~sudoforge@wireguard/tunneler/sudoforge] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
08:54 -!- Guyver2 [~Guyver@77-174-98-73.fixed.kpn.net] has left #bitcoin-core-dev [Closing Window]
10:00 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
10:00 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
10:36 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
10:38 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer]
10:41 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
10:43 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
10:55 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
11:02 < jeremyrubin> elichai2: note that we care quite a bit which 64 bits we read for block hasher
12:37 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
12:37 -!- murrayn [~murray@user/murrayn] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds]
12:41 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
12:54 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:55 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
12:57 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
12:57 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
12:58 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
12:58 -!- _apex2_ [~apex@dynamic-acs-24-144-190-15.zoominternet.net] has quit [Client Quit]
12:58 < laanwj> jeremyrubin: thank you!
13:04 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68289-cdif17-2-0-cust317.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
13:19 < bitcoin-git> [gui] achow101 opened pull request #653: gui: Show watchonly balance only for Legacy wallets (master...show-bal-send) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui/pull/653
13:19 -!- andrewtoth_ [~andrewtot@gateway/tor-sasl/andrewtoth] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
13:44 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!]
14:03 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
14:03 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
14:10 -!- sipsorcery [~sipsorcer@2a02:8084:6180:500::12b] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
14:11 -!- justache [~justache@user/justache] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
15:30 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
15:30 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
15:48 -!- furszy [~furszy@104.128.239.93] has quit [Changing host]
15:48 -!- furszy [~furszy@user/furszy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
15:51 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
15:51 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
16:47 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
17:36 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
17:47 -!- vasild [~vd@user/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
17:58 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
17:59 -!- evanlinj1 [~root@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
18:00 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
18:00 -!- ghost43 [~ghost43@gateway/tor-sasl/ghost43] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
19:52 -!- vysn [~vysn@user/vysn] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
20:26 -!- sudoforge [~sudoforge@wireguard/tunneler/sudoforge] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds]
20:53 -!- MacroFake [~none@72.5.34.65] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5+deb4 - https://znc.in]
21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
21:11 -!- MacroFake [~none@72.5.34.65] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
21:12 -!- aleggg [~aleggg@179.176.71.206.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds]
21:15 -!- justache [~justache@user/justache] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in]
21:36 -!- BUSY [~BUSY@user/busy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:38 -!- BUSY [~BUSY@user/busy] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
22:02 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: baakeydo1, RubenSomsen, kinlo, takinbo, josibake___, Neojack, edouard[m], josie[m], da2ce7, TheCharlatan
22:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: josibake___, edouard[m], RubenSomsen, TheCharlatan, kinlo
22:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: takinbo
22:02 -!- Guest73 [~Guest73@c-98-202-238-25.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
22:02 -!- Netsplit over, joins: baakeydo1, Neojack
22:03 -!- Netsplit over, joins: da2ce7
22:03 -!- josie[m] [~josiem]@2001:470:69fc:105::2:47a6] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
22:03 -!- Guest73 [~Guest73@c-98-202-238-25.hsd1.ut.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit]
22:17 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: MatrixBot1, cncr04s, warren, gwillen, pinheadmz, emzy, @core-meetingbot, stevenroose
22:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: emzy
22:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: MatrixBot1
22:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: stevenroose
22:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: cncr04s
22:17 -!- gwillen [gwillen@2600:3c01::f03c:92ff:fe31:d7fb] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
22:17 -!- gwillen [gwillen@2600:3c01::f03c:92ff:fe31:d7fb] has quit [Signing in (gwillen)]
22:17 -!- gwillen [gwillen@user/gwillen] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev
22:18 -!- Netsplit over, joins: warren
22:19 -!- Netsplit over, joins: core-meetingbot
22:20 -!- Netsplit over, joins: pinheadmz
22:20 -!- jarthur [~jarthur@user/jarthur] has quit [Quit: jarthur]
--- Log closed Mon Aug 15 00:00:50 2022