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02:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea67232cdb80...604015ac7955
02:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2aae5 MacroFake: test: Fix intermittent issue in p2p_leak.py
02:09 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 604015a fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25914: test: Fix intermittent issue in p2p_leak.py
02:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25914: test: Fix intermittent issue in p2p_leak.py (master...2208-test-p2p-leak-int-🥇) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25914
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02:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26002: build: sync ax_boost_base from upstream (master...sync_boost_base) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26002
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10:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #26003: build: fix configuring with `--without-experimental-kernel-lib` (master...fix_chainstate_bin_configure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26003
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10:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/604015ac7955...df31e468b9ad
10:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56e79fe fanquake: guix: use --build={arch}-guix-linux-gnu in cross toolchain
10:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master df31e46 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25861: guix: use --build={arch}-guix-linux-gnu in cr...
10:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25861: guix: use --build={arch}-guix-linux-gnu in cross toolchain (master...guix_cross_toolchain_explicit_cross) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25861
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10:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #25854: Update tracing.md (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25854
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12:31 < luke-jr> achow101: // keyids is now all non-HD keys. Each key will have its own combo descriptor
12:32 < luke-jr> achow101: isn't this going to be very excessive? having a descriptor SPKM for every key? :x
12:35 < achow101> luke-jr: only for non-HD wallets. there isn't really a way around that
12:36 < luke-jr> also, where do new keys/descriptors get created when the keypool needs topping up? (non-HD still)
12:36 < luke-jr> achow101: seems like this is a major shortcoming of descriptor wallets
12:38 < luke-jr> it's easy to say "only HD is supported" for them, but that doesn't work if you want to drop legacy wallet support..
12:39 < achow101> descriptor wallets are HD only
12:40 < luke-jr> then we need to keep legacy wallet support indefinitely.. :/
12:41 < achow101> why?
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12:42 < luke-jr> achow101: because there's no way to migrate a non-HD wallet?
12:46 < achow101> are there any users (other than yourself) who insist on using non-HD?
12:47 < luke-jr> I would assume so
12:49 < Earnestly> It's a fair assumption for such important software
12:49 < achow101> every other wallet software is HD only, and we haven't had the ability to create non-HD wallets in years. afaik, no one has really asked for that functionality back
12:50 < Earnestly> (I always consider the stories of people remembering forgotten wallets and how they might be able to recover them)
12:50 < luke-jr> I don't know why people would ask for it back when you can just create one with 0.15 and copy it over
12:51 < achow101> Earnestly: migrating a non-HD wallet means that wallet will be HD after migration, any existing coins will be retained and can still be spent by the migrated wallet.
12:52 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> while people are here, what is a good way to present scripts that would make reviewing a pr easier for the reviewer?
12:52 < Earnestly> Yeah, it seems a bit of a stretch to think people will purposefully downgrade bitcoin core just to create a new non-hd wallet; but I can see plenty of people still having non-hd wallets
12:52 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm putting the scripts in a seperate repo.
12:52 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> separate*
12:53 < achow101> luke-jr: yes, but I would expect users who don't know that to ask about it/ask for it back, and then they are instructed to use 0.15
12:53 < luke-jr> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: if they're short enough, I've seen them inlined in ``` blocks
12:54 < achow101> I can't recall any instance of anyone asking to create a non-HD wallet, whereas I have seen many about creating a HD wallet or converting a non-HD wallet to a HD one.
12:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Okay awesome! mine might be pushing it. But I think it is still possible. Thanks.
12:54 < Earnestly> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: If I ever have to dump a large log, I use a <details> element.  So <details><summary>name of log</summary> *newline* ``` ... ``` *newline* </details> -> blank lines are important for ```
12:55 < Earnestly> That means they can click to expand it or collapse it, without needing any special javascript
12:55 < luke-jr> achow101: certainly HD are more popular at this point, that was never in question
12:56 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Earnestly: Thanks
12:56 < luke-jr> Earnestly: without JS? :o
12:58 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> For test runner to run my functional test, do I have to add it to BASE_SCRIPTS ? It is looking like yes.
12:58 < Earnestly> luke-jr: Yep, pure html
13:09 < achow101> luke-jr: I just don't think there's enough demand to warrant the effort required to implement non-HD descriptor wallets
13:10 < achow101> (or at least, for me to implement it)
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13:11 < achow101> if someone else wanted to implement it, I could give a brief outline of how I think it could be done
13:19 < luke-jr> can descriptor wallets keep the SPKM around?
13:19 < luke-jr> legacy SPKM*
13:29 < achow101> luke-jr: no, the wallet enforces that if there is a legacy spkm, it must be the only spkm
13:30 < achow101> however you can have a legacy spkm with sqlite as the db
13:32 < luke-jr> hmm
13:34 < luke-jr> would it be so terrible to allow the legacy SPKM inside a descriptor wallet?
13:34 < luke-jr> thinking of the case where the user is fine with a HD going forward
13:34 < achow101> yes, it would be terrible
13:35 < luke-jr> >_<
13:35 < achow101> legacy spkm has all of the dumb ismine things, allows mixing watchonly, unwatched, and spendable scripts, and provides all address types as a single spkm
13:35 < achow101> it just generally does not fit the descriptor wallet model at all
13:36 < achow101> and doesn't allow us to make simplifying assumptions for descriptor wallets
13:42 < luke-jr> yes, it's pretty ugly
13:42 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> anyone use vscode to debug the python test runner?
13:42 < luke-jr> tbh I think the bigger issue is the inefficiency of thousands of SPKM when upgrading
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm new to functional tests and getting this assertion mismatch error but my strings look the same
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> AssertionError: [node 0] Expected message "Invalid combination of -regtest, -signet, -testnet and -chain. Can use at most one. Chain argument is being set in commandline with network argument." does not fully match stderr:
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> "************************
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> EXCEPTION: St13runtime_error       
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Invalid combination of -regtest, -signet, -testnet and -chain. Can use at most one. Chain argument is being set in commandline with network argument. 
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> shit
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> i should paste bin that
13:43 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> sry
13:43 < luke-jr> the main benefit of non-HD I'm aware of, could be done better by having a scheduled seed/descriptor rotation
13:44 < luke-jr> though arguably that might just be recreating a non-HD in practice
13:44 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> https://pastebin.com/0kGUEA76
13:45 < achow101> we could probably make a "a ton of keys" spkm for the non-hd migration
13:45 < achow101> or define a descriptor syntax to list out individual keys
13:45 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> is a runtime error the same as a "assert_start_raises_init_error"
13:45 < achow101> although such a descriptor would be insanely big for a migrated wallet, so not sure how much better it would actually be
13:49 < achow101> Kaizen_Kintsugi_: no, that's a node startup issue, it's crashing on start. the test framework puts regtest into the bitcoin.conf for each node, if you're passing the argument for a different chain for your test, then that would be the cause of the problem. also, using a non-regtest chain in a functional test is generally incorrect.
13:49 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> ahhhhh interesting, i always have to test as if this is regtest
13:49 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> okay okay, that makes sense
13:50 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> My test is litterally testing that if there are chain collisions, this is going to be way more tricky than I thought
13:51 < achow101> ah, actually that error looks like it's testing that specific parameter interation
13:51 < achow101> and it's a test framework AssertionError because the string doesn't match exactly
13:52 < achow101> The "EXCEPTION: St13runtime_error " is part of the message printed to stderr
13:53 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> i just discovered that aswell and it now works!
13:53 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> Thanks so much man
13:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> This is really surprising how much work it is to get something working with all the unit tests and framework tests
13:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> I'm learning so much
13:54 < Kaizen_Kintsugi_> this is awesome.
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14:01 < luke-jr> achow101: hmm, a descriptor function that just uses a list of [existing] db keys?
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14:06 < achow101> does having a few thousand spkm have a measurable performance impact?
14:06 < achow101> I would imagine that if it did, it would be in IsMine, and we could also do some caching in CWallet for non-ranged descriptor spkms to make that faster
14:08 < luke-jr> it has a measurable performance impact even with the current code
14:09 < luke-jr> (ie, Legacy SPKM)
14:11 < achow101> I suppose I should actually benchmark this
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14:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/df31e468b9ad...0ebd4db32b39
14:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 88e7807 Suhas Daftuar: test: fix non-determinism in p2p_headers_sync_with_minchainwork.py
14:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0ebd4db fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25978: test: fix non-determinism in p2p_headers_sync...
14:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25978: test: fix non-determinism in p2p_headers_sync_with_minchainwork.py (master...2022-09-fix-flaky-headers-sync-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25978
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14:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] luke-jr opened pull request #26005: Wallet: Fix error handling (copy_file failure in RestoreWallet, and in general via interfaces) (master...fix_wallet_copyfail_nullresult) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26005
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15:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #26007: [contrib] message-capture-parser: fix AssertionError on parsing `headers` message (master...202209-messagecapture-fix_assertionerror_on_parsing_headers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26007
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16:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #26008: wallet: cache IsMine scriptPubKeys to improve performance of wallets with a lot of non-ranged descriptors (master...improve-many-desc-ismine) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26008
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16:16 < luke-jr> achow101: while benchmarking, please observe memory usage too if not too difficult
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