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00:02 < _aj_> provoostenator: matrix bridge is broken, or you're 12h out of sync? https://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/log-2023-01-12.html#l-314
00:05 < provoostenator> _aj_: odd, now I see the conversation, so it must have caught up.
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00:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f4ef856375c5...dcae3c19b82c
00:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9b158ae John Moffett: Update to mention restoring wallet via GUI
00:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dc9bad5 John Moffett: Change dots to an ellipsis and fix capitalization
00:45 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dcae3c1 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26867: doc: Mention restoring wallet via GUI
00:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26867: doc: Mention restoring wallet via GUI (master...2023_01_DocWalletRestoreGUI) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26867
00:57 < michaelfolkson> bytes1440000: Indeed. It appears we have a Brink problem. We've lost Core as an open source project
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00:58 < michaelfolkson> Not sure what is going on there. If anyone has any insight my DMs are open
00:59 < michaelfolkson> If I had to guess there is a small group of people including a founder of Brink, a couple of maintainers and maybe others who think they can make decisions as a small private group and not tell anyone else about the rationales for those decisions
01:00 < michaelfolkson> But just speculating, it is very strange
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01:04 < michaelfolkson> Longer term we might have to think about how we route around this small group. We can't continue like this if we want Bitcoin Core to stay open source
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01:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dcae3c19b82c...07c54de55003
01:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9d47e7b Pieter Wuille: Squashed 'src/secp256k1/' changes from 44c2452fd3..21ffe4b22a
01:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4462cb0 Pieter Wuille: Adapt to libsecp256k1 API changes
01:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3d8a6ae Pieter Wuille: Update secp256k1 subtree to upstream libsecp256k1 version 0.2.0
01:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26691: Update secp256k1 subtree to libsecp256k1 version 0.2.0 (master...secp256k1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26691
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03:16 < jnewbery> bytes1440000: I haven't been involved in day-to-day Bitcoin Core development for over a year. The only reason I commented on #25923 was that I was tagged by vasild with the comment "a bug is a bug, even if it was done on purpose.". My response was to correct several mistakes made by both vasild and jonatack in their comments on that PR.
03:16 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/25923 | p2p: always provide CNodeStateStats and getpeerinfo/netinfo/gui updates by jonatack · Pull Request #25923 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
03:17 < jnewbery> The PR description has been changed 15 times(!) by jonatack, so it's difficult to see what I'm responding to. Earlier descriptions referred to "regressions" and "API stability".
03:17 < jnewbery> I stand by my statement in that PR: "Both the PR description and @vasild's comment make it sound like this was some nefarious intentional API break, or some egregious bug. It's neither."
03:17 < jnewbery> It's not aggression to defend myself from an accusation that I'd introduced a bug, much less from one that I'd introduced a break intentionally. It's also not aggression to correct mistakes on a PR - that's literally what review is for.
03:17 < jnewbery> As for whether I think vasild should become a maintainer: I haven't commented on that PR because I no longer contribute regularly to the project, so my opinion carries little weight. I also haven't been keeping track of his more recent contributions to the project.
03:17 < jnewbery> michaelfolkson: I haven't been involved with Brink or Bitcoin Core for over a year, and yet I continue to get tagged in PRs and irc with accusations that I've deliberately broken code, been "aggressive" or am involved in some shady cabal that controls Bitcoin Core.
03:18 < jnewbery> It's striking that neither of the two people making the accusations or pushing for vasild to become maintainer have made *any* meaningful contributions to Bitcoin Core. And yet they make incessent demands on contributors' and maintainers' time and attention and then demand justification when they don't get that attention.
03:18 < jnewbery> Incidentally, I do agree with you that some of the processes around Bitcoin Core are broken at the moment. There are a small number of developers doing very important and very good work (including people that you regularly attack), but sadly that good work is often drowned out by interminable PRs and irc discussions about politics instead of code.
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03:21 < michaelfolkson> jnewbery: Indeed my friend. Some of us have to spend months on the stuff no one else wants to do. Like chasing maintainers for not doing their jobs and trying to get community consensus on soft fork activation mechanisms
03:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kouloumos opened pull request #26886: test: add `rescan utxos` inside MiniWallet's initialization (master...miniwallet-rescan_utxos) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26886
03:22 < michaelfolkson> Only to see people like you trash those efforts at the last minute with weird compromises
03:22 < jnewbery> michaelfolkson: you don't "have to" do anything. And I'd wager most people here would find this project a lot more pleasant if you chose not to.
03:23 < michaelfolkson> Well yeah pleasant is having two maintainers blocking whatever they like without a rationale and soft forks that are ready not get activated
03:23 < michaelfolkson> Or perhaps you'd like to venture that Luke and my efforts were pointless
03:24 < vasild> fwiw I mentioned you (jnewbery) on 25923 to double check whether my comment was correct. It turned out it was not and you corrected/clarified some things. Thanks for that. I think all is good. I did not mean to accuse or blame you in any way.
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03:24 < michaelfolkson> jnewbery as benevolent dictator could have chosen the weird compromise we ended up with and saved Luke and me a lot of hassle
03:25 < michaelfolkson> Or you could have NACKed Jeremy's CTV PR and saved me huge amounts of time in 2022
03:26 < michaelfolkson> People leave the rubbish for people like me and Luke to clear up and then abuse us
03:26 < michaelfolkson> Then they have the cheek to call us "unpleasant". Lol
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03:33 < jnewbery> I have no idea what you're talking about with a compromise or CTV. And I doubt anyone else in this channel is interested in this conversation.
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03:33 < michaelfolkson> No one ever is interested in the rubbish. That's why it is left to people like me and Luke to deal with it
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03:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ajtowns opened pull request #26887: RPC: make RPCResult::MatchesType return useful errors (master...202301-rpc-matchestype) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26887
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03:56 < _aj_> wow, CI is just having the best time. -- W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/bionic/InRelease  Could not connect to archive.ubuntu.com:80
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04:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/07c54de55003...32834034a3a6
04:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master eea73d4 fanquake: test: skip sqlite3 tests if it isn't available
04:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3283403 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26882: test: skip sqlite3 tests if it isn't available
04:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26882: test: skip sqlite3 tests if it isn't available (master...func_tests_check_import_sqlite) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26882
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05:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #26888: net: simplify the call to vProcessMsg.splice() (master...simplify_vProcessMsg_splice) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26888
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06:02 < bytes1440000> jnewbery: I agree, I reviewed and tested less PRs. Will do more in 2023. Not sure what you mean by demand. Asking the maintainers about dysfunction and PR being stalled? Maybe 4 months wasn't enough time
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06:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] furszy opened pull request #26889: wallet: set keypool size instead of access global args manager from spkm (master...2022_spkm_keypool_size) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26889
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06:55 < instagibbs> michaelfolkson, just leave if that's what you believe. You've made your views known, now move on.
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07:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto closed pull request #25037: build: Create `noinst_LTLIBRARIES` conditionally (master...220429-targets) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25037
07:11 < instagibbs> @theStack, ive always wondered if anyone has ever used hybrid pubkeys in bitcoin
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07:15 < _aj_> https://www.mail-archive.com/bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net/msg01181.html -- sipa did on testnet apparently?
07:18 < theStack> instagibbs: heh, that would indeed be very interesting. IIUC, we can still create P2PK outputs with hybrid pubkeys, but spending them is invalid (since SCRIPT_VERIFY_DERSIG)?!
07:19 < theStack> _aj_: thanks, that is a fun historic read
07:20 < instagibbs> you mean SCRIPT_VERIFY_STRICTENC?
07:20 < theStack> instagibbs: oh yeah indeed, sorry
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07:21 < instagibbs> kind of odd to allow creation and not redemption 
07:22 < _aj_> we allow that for unknown segwit versions
07:24 < instagibbs> for a consensus-defined output type*
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07:31 < _aj_> seems like sipa's txs got reorged out, if they were even ever broadcast (that was about a year before regtest was created)
07:33 < sipa> Oh wow, hybrid keys.
07:33 < sipa> I had almost forgotten about those.
07:33 < instagibbs> 1-of-3 bare multisig with the same public key in compressed, uncompressed, and hybrid 
07:33 < instagibbs> Just In Case
07:33 < sipa> haha
07:45 < michaelfolkson> instagibbs: Where do you suggest I leave to?
07:47 < instagibbs> somewhere you don't feel abused, life is too short
07:47 < michaelfolkson> Any alternative cryptocurrency you recommend?
07:49 < instagibbs> Not an invitation for more off topic convo, "move on"
07:49 < michaelfolkson> Oh it is a "move on and shut up". Ok gotcha, charming
07:50 < instagibbs> bye
07:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/32834034a3a6...8915e4d9f5b7
07:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0f883df fanquake: build: fix configuring with only bitcoin-util
07:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8915e4d fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26824: build: fix configuring with only bitcoin-util
07:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #26824: build: fix configuring with only bitcoin-util (master...fix_bitcoin_util_configure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26824
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08:27 < halosghost> I'm struggling to even find information on what a hybrid key is
08:28 < halosghost> anyone happen to have a handy link lying around? ☺ (I saw _aj_'s link to sipa's mail mentioning what the actual layout is, but I don't understand what it's for or what makes it hybrid)
08:28 < sipa> It's a public key encoding specified in SEC1 (the same series of documents that secp256k1 came from).
08:29 < sipa> It defines:
08:29 < sipa> 0x00 for infinity (not used, as infinity is not a valid public key)
08:30 < sipa> 0x02 or 0x03 + X coordinate, compressed key with the prefix indicating the Y sign
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08:30 < sipa> 0x04 + X coordinate + Y coordinate, the uncompressed encodin
08:31 < sipa> and 0x06 or 0x07 + X coordinate + Y coordinate, with the prefix repeating the Y sign, the hybrid encoding
08:31 < sipa> it's truly dumb
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08:33 < halosghost> oh, I see
08:34 < sipa> Actually, now that I look up the spec, it does not mention the hybrid encoding, only infinity, compressed, and uncompressed.
08:34 < instagibbs> OpenSSL supported it, so Bitcoin supports it
08:34 < halosghost> so, what you meant in the mailer (that you can just treat them as if they had the prefix 0x04) is that the sign preservation is redundant because the full Y coordinate is stored anyway
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08:34 < sipa> https://secg.org/sec1-v2.pdf, section 2.3.3, if anyone is interested
08:34 < instagibbs> was my sense
08:34 < sipa> It may just have been an OpenSSL invention.
08:34 < halosghost> that makes sense
08:35 < halosghost> and yeah… that sounds a bit like something OpenSSL might do ☺
08:35 < halosghost> sipa: thanks for the clarification!
08:35 < sipa> halosghost: Unfortunately, no, you cannot just treat them as having 0x04 instead, because if the parity in the prefix mismatches the actual Y coordinate that follows, the encoding is invalid.
08:35 < halosghost> mm, sure
08:36 < halosghost> additional failure cases!
08:36 < halosghost> fun ☺
08:37 < sipa> Oh, you were just repeating what decade-ago-sipa claimed. I guess he was being inaccurate.
08:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #26890: Introduce a Code of Conduct (master...add-code-of-conduct) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26890
08:37 < achow101> #proposedmeetingtopic code of conduct
08:37 < instagibbs> https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/57855/c-secp256k1-what-do-prefixes-0x06-and-0x07-in-an-uncompressed-public-key-signif
08:38 < instagibbs> 6 year ago sipa claims its in ANSI standard
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08:39 < sipa> Oh wow, 6-years-ago-sipa was a lot smarter than 10-year-ago-sipa or current-sipa.
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08:40 < instagibbs> sipa officially over the hill
08:41 < halosghost> hah
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08:43 < sipa> haha
08:45 < sipa> ANSI X9.62-1998 says: "NOTE— The hybrid form contains information of both compressed and uncompressed forms. It allows an implementation to
08:45 < sipa> convert to either compressed form or to uncompressed form."
08:45 < sipa> LOL
08:45 < halosghost> …
08:45 < halosghost> right… because neither the compressed nor uncompressed forms allow you to convert to the other…
08:45 < halosghost> I assume they meant “trivially convert” or something
08:46 < halosghost> but that's quite a choice
08:46 < sipa> At least going from compressed to uncompressed involves a square root.
08:46 < sipa> But going from uncompressed to compressed is just as hard as from hybrid to compressed.
08:47 < halosghost> I'm pretty comfortable saying that was a BadIdea™
08:47 < halosghost> but then, I'm not responsible for ANSI standards
08:47 < halosghost> ☺
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09:32 < sipa> Heh, it appears SEC1 does include some comstraints that curves need to satisfy... and some of them secp256k1 doesn't actually satisfy.
09:32 < sipa> No clue where these constraints come from, TBH.
09:32 < sipa> They seem unrelated to security.
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10:36 < ariard> achow101: clear NACK on my side on a CoC, just for all the legal implications to have a formal disciplinary authority around the project...
10:36 < ariard> but we can discuss it more during next meeting
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10:41 < ariard> sghost> that makes sense
10:41 < ariard> mistake
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10:43 < achow101> ariard: what sort of legal implications? if there are any, would they not apply to the ad-hoc way we do disciplinary actions now? (when they are occasionally done)
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10:59 < provoostenator> The current document uses phrases like "leaders" and "officially representing the community in public spaces" which seems a bit off for this project, but that wording could be tweaked.
11:00 < Murch1> Hi
11:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
11:00 <@core-meetingbot> Meeting started Fri Jan 13 19:00:21 2023 UTC.  The chair is achow101. Information about MeetBot at https://bitcoin.jonasschnelli.ch/ircmeetings.
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11:00 < provoostenator> hi
11:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Wallet Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard BlueMatt cfields Chris_Stewart_5 darosior digi_james dongcarl elichai2 emilengler fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow gmaxwell gwillen hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jb55 jeremyrubin jl2012 jnewbery jonasschnelli jonatack josibake jtimon kallewoof kanzure kvaciral laanwj larryruane lightlike luke-jr maaku marcofalke meshcollider michagogo moneyball morcos Murch nehan NicolasDorier 
11:00 < achow101> paveljanik petertodd phantomcircuit promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK sipa vasild
11:00 < achow101> Welcome to the bi-weekly wallet meeting
11:00 < sipa> hi
11:01 < achow101> There are no pre-proposed wallet meeting topics
11:01 < achow101> does anyone have anything to discuss?
11:01 < furszy> hi
11:01 < Murch1> furszy is doing great work, nothing else :p
11:01 < furszy> <3
11:02 < Murch1> Kinda curious how we are getting non-zero waste scores for coin selection algorithms when the feerate, LTFRE, and cost-of-change are 0
11:02 < Murch1> May be a bug
11:02 < Murch1> but I guess furszy and I will be looking a bit more into that
11:02 < achow101> Murch1: in a test?
11:03 < Murch1> Aye
11:03 < achow101> excess
11:03 < furszy> yeah
11:03 < Murch1> #26720
11:03 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26720 | wallet: coin selection, dont return results that exceed the max allowed weight by furszy · Pull Request #26720 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:03 < achow101> that's the only other term in that equation
11:03 < Murch1> Excess only appears in transactions without change
11:04 < achow101> I'll put that on my todo list
11:04 < furszy> as there is no change, the waste is merely calculated by waste = selected_effective_value - target;
11:04 < Murch1> it's 0 for transactions with change
11:04 < Murch1> See GetSelectionWaste(…)
11:04 < Murch1> Clarification, there is a change output, but the cost_of_change is set to 0 for the test.
11:05 < Murch1> furszy: If that were so, that would be a bug
11:05 < furszy> the test is only running the selection process, it's not creating a tx
11:05 < furszy> not sure what you think that there is a change output
11:05 < achow101> Murch1: it's probably excess. IIRC we assume cost_of_change == 0 means changeless solution which means include excess
11:06 < Murch1> Nuh uh
11:06 < furszy> *why you think
11:06 < furszy> achow101: yep
11:07 < Murch1> It's running Knapsack and SRD
11:07 < Murch1> They produce change
11:07 < Murch1> waste = input_weight × (feerate - LTFRE) + cost_of_change + excess
11:07 < Murch1> feerate = LTFRE = 0
11:07 < Murch1> cost_of_change = 0
11:07 < Murch1> excess is zero for solutions with change
11:07 < Murch1> so both Knapsack and SRD should have a waste score of 0 throughout the test
11:07 < achow101> Murch1: ignoring the fact of whether or not change is produced, we determine whether to use excess depending on the value of cost_of_change. If it happens to be 0, then we include excess
11:07 < Murch1> but furszy reports they do not
11:07 < Murch1> ergo Bug
11:07 < Murch1> achow101: ooooooooh.
11:07 < Murch1> Gah.
11:08 < Murch1> That is TERRIBLE
11:08 < Murch1> but okay, I see why I'm wrong
11:08 < Murch1> thanks
11:08 < achow101> well it works in normal usage :)
11:08 < Murch1> IMO, the issue here is that we are setting a bunch of values that are never 0 to 0 in a test that is supposed to test how the function works when everything is not 0
11:08 < achow101> but yes, it might make sense to change that
11:09 < Murch1> Yes, let's please not set everything to zero when that is completely unnatural and never occurs in operation
11:10 < Murch1> Sure, we might have tests to see that it would continue working, but it just baffles me that we are testing coin selection but make it behave completely different
11:10 < achow101> right, a lot of the tests pre-date the more recent coin selection things and so in that conversion, it was convenient to use a default value of 0 because then they wouldn't implode
11:10 < Murch1> I guess I had a topic after all :p
11:10 < Murch1> Okay, how about we just don't do that
11:10 < achow101> however I think our coin selection decisions are stable enough at this point we should go through the tests and actually update them and evaluate whether they still make sense
11:11 < Murch1> Also, tbh, the trigger of adding excess when cost_of_change is 0, is kinda bad
11:11 < Murch1> it should be whether or not there is change
11:11 < achow101> note: I am not volunteering to do this but will gladly review
11:11 < Murch1> Yeah, that's alright
11:12 < Murch1> Also, furszy: my apologies, I was wrong and you were right all along!
11:12 < Murch1> haha
11:12 < achow101> glad I could resolve that without having to actually read any code :)
11:13 < Murch1> I bet
11:13 < furszy> hehe, i tried to explain what achow101 said in a line in 4 long comments in the PR :p
11:13 < furszy> should have used the "excess" wording
11:13 < Murch1> Yeah, in theory it should work, but in practice…
11:14 < Murch1> Nah, sorry, that was my fault, I did not realize that setting cost_of_change = 0 actually makes everything evaluate as if it were changeless solutions 🤦‍♂️
11:15 < achow101> anything else to discuss?
11:15 < Murch1> BIP47 is terrible
11:15 < Murch1> No discussion necessary, though
11:15 < Murch1> :p
11:16 < Murch1> err, no
11:16 < Murch1> Also, are we defaulting to P2TR change yet? ^^
11:17 < Murch1> At least when sending to P2PKH for wallets that don't have a legacy descriptor?
11:17 < achow101> I think we might want to avoid changing that since it ends up being a dead giveaway of what our change is
11:17 < Murch1> I mean, we already match the recipient output when we have a descriptor for that type
11:18 < achow101> if you do not have a descriptor for legacy, and have a bech32m descriptor, we will use a bech32m as change
11:18 < Murch1> noice
11:18 < achow101> so I think the answer is that we already do what you suggest
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11:19 < Murch1> P2TR outputs have been going up quite a bit
11:19 < achow101> A more relevant question might be when should we change the default address type to p2tr
11:19 < Murch1> v25
11:20 < achow101> I think we would need to do some research on what wallets will accept and correctly interpret bech32m
11:21 < Murch1> I gotchu: https://whentaproot.org/#support
11:21 < Murch1> It's just a few stragglers of minor relevance such as Binance, Coinbase, Bitfinex, Bitso, Crypto.com, Fireblocks, Gemini, Luno, and Paxful that have not implemented support yet
11:22 < achow101> it's only the biggest exchange, nbd
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11:22 < Murch1> 😄
11:22 < achow101> I guess choosing the address type to use is really easy to do now so maybe it doesn't matter as much?
11:23 < Murch1> If we announce that we are switching the default address type early and loudly enough, they might also just finally do the ~2 line code change
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11:23 < Murch1> But yeah, for real, maybe v26 is more realistic
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11:25 < achow101> any other topics?
11:25 < Murch1> We should do a wallet offsite
11:25 < Murch1> just wallet devs hanging out for a few days
11:26 < Murch1> preferably in the winter on an island where it's warm
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11:26 < Murch1> I hear the Caribbean is nice this time of the year
11:27 < achow101> perhaps
11:27 < achow101> I don't know if there's a whole lot to talk about that we can't do during a coredev event?
11:27 < Murch1> 🤷
11:27 < Murch1> I think you are only catching part of the point :p
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11:30 < achow101> #endmeeting
11:30 <@core-meetingbot> topic: Bitcoin Core development discussion and commit log | Feel free to watch, but please take commentary and usage questions to #bitcoin | Channel logs: http://www.erisian.com.au/bitcoin-core-dev/, http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/ | Meeting topics http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedmeetingtopics.txt / http://gnusha.org/bitcoin-core-dev/proposedwalletmeetingtopics.txt
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12:57 < ariard> achow101: legal responsibility of the moderation team for contributors code and statements on the repository, or in fact any related venue
12:57 < ariard> it could apply to the ad-hoc actions already taken...formalizing make things worse from a legal reasoning standpoint as you function on decision criterias
12:58 < ariard> and here you have to consider not only your local juridiction -- but also the ones of anyone to whom you might take actions
13:00 < ariard> as of today, according to foss standards, contributors are only responsible of their own acts
13:01 < ariard> at the very least I would advice to take opinoins from lawyers on the case, the annoying thing we're evolving in an environement where the legal responsibilites of cryptocurrencies dev are in plain discussion 
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13:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #26891: ci: Update "Win64 native" task (master...230113-vcpkg) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26891
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17:03 < achow101> ariard: interesting. could you post your concerns in the pr?
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