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00:06 < phantomcircuit> sipa: personally i think it's pretty reasonable for this not to detect n-of-n multisig where we have all the keys, but i absolutely could make the filter work more like bip37 and include each data push to make that possibl
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00:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/01ec5308bf61...e6ff110820fb
00:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4bb91be fanquake: debian: remove nonexistent files from copyright
00:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e6ff110 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26810: doc: remove nonexistent files from copyright
00:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26810: doc: remove nonexistent files from copyright (master...remove_redundant_copyright) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26810
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00:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e6ff110820fb...52d6509497a7
00:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 87a08cb fanquake: build: move rpc/request from util lib to common
00:29 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 52d6509 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26904: build: move rpc/request from util lib to comm...
00:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26904: build: move rpc/request from util lib to common (master...move_rpc_request_out_util) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26904
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00:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26912: ci: Bump --combinedlogslen to debug intermittent issues (master...2301-ci-logs-len-🏈) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26912
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01:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26913: doc: Clarify debian copyright comment (master...2301-doc-comment-debian-🏼) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26913
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03:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/52d6509497a7...d91364fdd95c
03:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faddb73 MarcoFalke: ci: Bump --combinedlogslen to debug intermittent issues
03:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d91364f MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26912: ci: Bump --combinedlogslen to debug intermitt...
03:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26912: ci: Bump --combinedlogslen to debug intermittent issues (master...2301-ci-logs-len-🏈) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26912
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03:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed tag v0.18-final: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.18-final
03:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed tag v0.19-final: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.19-final
03:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed tag v0.20-final: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v0.20-final
03:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake deleted 0 commit to 0.18: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8b67698420e2...000000000000
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03:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake deleted 0 commit to 0.19: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/461b9b11b20a...000000000000
03:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake deleted 0 commit to 0.20: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/29e129ab6bb0...000000000000
03:34 < fanquake> Have just tagged -finals for 0.18, 0.19 & 0.20, which are all EOL, and removed the branches.
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03:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d91364fdd95c...c9db788a1185
03:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa87d71 MarcoFalke: ci: Add missing lint dependency
03:41 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c9db788 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26908: ci: Add missing lint dependency (gpg)
03:41 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26908: ci: Add missing lint dependency (gpg) (master...2301-ci-lint-missing-🌌) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26908
03:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c9db788a1185...500f25d88037
03:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1dc0e4b fanquake: rpc: remove optional from fStateStats fields
03:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 500f25d MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26727: rpc: remove optional from fStateStats fields
03:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26727: rpc: remove optional from fStateStats fields (master...remove_fstatestats_post_26515) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26727
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04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/500f25d88037...78c30814f95b
04:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6d0ab07 stickies-v: refactor: use convenience fn to auto parse non-string parameters
04:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 78c3081 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26506: refactor: rpc: use convenience fn to auto par...
04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26506: refactor: rpc: use convenience fn to auto parse non-string parameters (master...rpc-convert-if-necessary) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26506
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04:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master faa05cd MarcoFalke: doc: Clarify debian copyright comment
04:26 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8741cd8 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26913: doc: Clarify debian copyright comment
04:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26913: doc: Clarify debian copyright comment (master...2301-doc-comment-debian-🏼) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26913
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05:31 < theStack> phantomcircuit: +1 on what sipa said. it was just easier to implement for descriptor wallets only in a first step (see also PR description). when i started working on the PR the wallet migration code was not merged yet, which provides a method to get all scriptPubKeys also for legacy wallets (method `LegacyScriptPubKeyMan::GetScriptPubKeys()`).
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05:49 < sipa> @phantomcircuit Legacy wallets have an IsMine that (traditionally) acts as a function: you give it a scriptPubKey and it determines whether it matches the wallet. That approach is not good for fast rescanning, because the filter cannot store the actual scriptPubKeys, only a probabilistic data structure with some data of it.
05:50 < sipa> Having data pushes and what not in the filter isn't relevant, that's not issue.
05:51 < sipa> The only realistic approach is being able to generate the set of all IsMine scriptPubKeys, hashin them, and then looking them up in the filter.
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07:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8741cd88b44c...b52a6c0cf96b
07:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 376e01b fanquake: doc: add databases/py-sqlite3 to FreeBSD test suite deps
07:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b52a6c0 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26873: doc: add databases/py-sqlite3 to FreeBSD test...
07:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26873: doc: add databases/py-sqlite3 to FreeBSD test suite deps (master...freebsd_doc_py_sqlite) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26873
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07:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab92a5 MarcoFalke: refactor: Remove const to fix performance-move-const-arg clang-tidy errors
07:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa09cb6 MarcoFalke: refactor: Introduce is_top_level_arg
07:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fad56f7 MarcoFalke: doc: Properly report optional RPC args
07:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26706: doc: Properly report optional RPC args (master...2212-doc-rpc-🐵) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26706
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07:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/3fef2944adee...aef8b4f43b0c
07:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dddd462 MarcoFalke: Bump minimum python version to 3.7
07:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2a235 MarcoFalke: Revert "contrib: Fix capture_output in getcoins.py"
07:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa8fe5b MarcoFalke: scripted-diff: Use new python 3.7 keywords
07:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26226: Bump minimum python version to 3.7 (master...2210-py37-🔐) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26226
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07:59 < jamesob> MarcoFalke: woohoo, we've rejoined scripting modernity!
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07:59 < fanquake> quick someone write a dataclass
08:00 < sipa> 3.8 would be nice for pow(x, p, -1)
08:00  * sipa hides
08:00 < jamesob> So part of me wants to really stir the pot, bench how much faster 3.11 runs the test suite, and then push for containerizing all test runs for people who don't have 3.11 on-host
08:00 < sipa> if we want fast, we should try to make things work in pypy instead
08:01 < sipa> that's like 3x faster
08:01 < jamesob> "Python 3.11 is between 10-60% faster than Python 3.10. On average, we measured a 1.25x speedup on the standard benchmark suite. See Faster CPython for details." https://docs.python.org/3/whatsnew/3.11.html
08:01 < fanquake> I think everyone should basically be using 3.11 locally anyways. I always just pyenv install whatever is the latest python, and use that
08:01 < jamesob> fanquake: most def
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08:01 < jamesob> man you guys are making me want to write that ill-advised PR
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08:01 < achow101> our ci should probably just use pyenv too
08:02 < jamesob> achow101: IMO our CI should be using pre-built containers that are trivial to reuse locally so there's never any issue about reproducing CI
08:02 < jamesob> Cirrus would (probably?) automatically cache the container layers and builds would probably be faster
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08:03 < achow101> yeah, we should convert the install scripts to Dockerfiles
08:03 < jamesob> bingo
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08:09 < sipa> Heh, it seems at least some of our functional tests just work fine in pypy... but slower than in cpython.
08:09 < sipa> I guess most of the time is spent waiting for responses from bitcoind, and less on computation?
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08:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #26914: scripted-diff: Use python 3.7 syntax capture_output=True (master...2301-py37-output-capture-🔔) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26914
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08:10 < achow101> in profiling that i've done before, for at least the slower tests, most of the time was spent waiting on recv or sleeping in a wait_until
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08:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke closed pull request #26914: scripted-diff: Use python 3.7 syntax capture_output=True (master...2301-py37-output-capture-🔔) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26914
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08:23 < sipa> Intersting, I can just run test_runner in pypy now (IIRC I tried that a while ago and it didn't work). It's significantly slower than cpython (3x more wall clock time at -j30, lol).
08:23 < sipa> Its IPC must be a lot slower.
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08:36 < jamesob> sipa: yeah I bet we're IO bound on bitcoind for most of the time. So maybe .py performance isn't so meaningful
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11:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/aef8b4f43b0c...8ae2808a4354
11:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b3f4e82 furszy: wallet: simplify ListCoins implementation
11:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a2ac6f9 furszy: wallet: unify FindNonChangeParentOutput functions
11:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8ae2808 Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25659: wallet: simplify ListCoins implementation
11:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #25659: wallet: simplify ListCoins implementation (master...2022_wallet_clean_listCoins) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25659
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12:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] john-moffett opened pull request #26915: test: Skip copying BDB database directory in wallet backwards compatibility test (master...2023_01_FixWalletCompatibilityTestFailure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26915
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12:59 < sipa> #proposedmeetingtopic libsecp256k1 release schedule
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13:41 < _aj_> sipa: any thoughts on the bip324 shortid negotitation? having net_processing do the shortid/command mapping seems like it makes sense, and just requires a bit of tweaking of the CNetMsgMaker api so that it can choose a shortid instead of the lower level Serializer
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13:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] john-moffett closed pull request #26915: test: Skip copying BDB database directory in wallet backwards compatibility test (master...2023_01_FixWalletCompatibilityTestFailure) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26915
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14:05 < sipa> _aj_: I haven't really looked deeply at the code... conceptually I can see it go either way.
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14:14 < _aj_> sipa: i guess i was more wondering about whether it's a "let's ignore the issue and get all the other stuff done first; can always patch over it after it's released" or a "patches welcome" or somewhere in between topic? haven't seen much comments from others, so not sure if it's just me obsessing over a pet topic
14:14 < jamesob> sipa: am I correct in assuming that SpanPopBack() doesn't actually modify the underlying vector?
14:15 < sipa> jamesob: It returns a reference to the last element of the span, and shrinks the span to no longer include that. I can't change anything underlying, since it has no idea what can lie underneath (there might not even be anything modifiable, like an array).
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14:17 < sipa> _aj_: Do you mean patches to the BIP, or the code, or both?
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14:19 < sipa> _aj_: I'd say I'd like to get the approach we want to take w.r.t. shortid negotation/signalling/encoding/coordination/procedure better fleshed out (whether that means just sticking to what is in the BIP now, or something else), but ideally not something that requires too much *spec* work now (because who knows... it may never be needed).
14:20 < sipa> Regarding the code, I don't have too many opinions.
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14:20 < sipa> (I've only started reviewing parts of the non-cryptography stuff myself recently)
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14:28 < _aj_> sipa: either/both, i guess. i guess i'm convinced at this point it'd be possible to do it pretty well as an add-on after the fact; so it's probably just that not doing it right straight away grates on my sense of aesthetics
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15:34 < phantomcircuit> sipa: so the filter logic can identify multisig scripts that have been imported by the user manually, which seems fine to me
15:34 < phantomcircuit> iirc there's a very small number of bare multisig scripts in the entire blockchain
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15:36 < phantomcircuit> sipa: whose the wallet maintainer?
15:37 < sipa> @phantomcircuit @achow101 
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15:40 < phantomcircuit> achow101: what do you think of the fast rescan filters only working on multisig that the user has explicitly imported for legacy wallets
15:40 < phantomcircuit> sipa: im not misremembering about there being almost no bare multisig right?
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15:55 < sipa> @phantomcircuit I think it's much easier to tell people that want this feature to migrate to descriptor wallets.
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15:58 < sipa> But I haven't paid attention to that code in a long time, so I'm not the one to ask.
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16:05 < phantomcircuit> sipa: all the wallets have a GetScriptPubKeys method, so at least in theory there's no reason not to support all of them
16:05 < phantomcircuit> but yeah i get it, i'll see if achow101 has an opinion :)
16:16 < achow101> phantomcircuit: multisig as in bare multisig or any multisigs?
16:19 < phantomcircuit> achow101: as in i would only be able to find things that are in LegacyScriptPubKeyMan::GetScriptPubKeys()
16:19 < phantomcircuit> which if i understand correctly puts me in the same position as someone who migrates from legacy to descriptor anyways
16:19 < achow101> ah, that's fine
16:19 < phantomcircuit> i can see what sipa is saying though, since im not able to support more than what descriptor wallets can do i should just support migrated wallets only
16:19 < achow101> GetScriptPubKeys() should exactly match everything that IsMine() does, so it shouldn't miss anything
16:21 < achow101> one of the issues with the rescanning is that each new tx found can add entries to the keypool, so figuring out what was added in order to update the spk set might be harder with legacy wallets
16:25 < phantomcircuit> achow101: ironically it's much easier with true legacy wallets that dont have hd keys
16:26 < phantomcircuit> im not sure you're right about GetScriptPubKeys matching IsMine 1:1
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16:27 < achow101> it's supposed to... if it doesn't, that's a bug
16:29 < phantomcircuit> achow101: i dont think it can, since there's an exponential blow up in the solver
16:29 < phantomcircuit> achow101: bare n-of-m multisig where the legacy wallet has all the keys will be IsMine, but we cannot possibly generate all of those scriptpubkeys
16:29 < achow101> not since a while now
16:30 < achow101> you need to import bare multisigs explicitly for them to be detected
16:30 < phantomcircuit> ah i see // Never treat bare multisig outputs as ours (they can still be made watchonly-though)
16:30 < phantomcircuit> ok yeah then it's possible
16:31 < phantomcircuit> sipa: lol you're the one who made bare multisig !IsMine :)
16:32 < sipa> I just remember it was nontrivial to generate the set of all scriptPubKeys!
16:32 < sipa> If the code for that exists now, so much the better.
16:35 < phantomcircuit> sipa: iirc i tried to do it before the change to bare multisigs and decided it was literally impossible, because of the bare multisig support
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