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00:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba3d32715f98...ba39ffe938b9
00:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dfc01cc Vasil Dimov: net: simplify the call to vProcessMsg.splice()
00:44 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba39ffe MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26888: net: simplify the call to vProcessMsg.splice()
00:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26888: net: simplify the call to vProcessMsg.splice() (master...simplify_vProcessMsg_splice) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26888
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01:38 < fjahr> achow101: thanks for clarifying!
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01:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ba39ffe938b9...e1bf5470f919
01:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 96ee992 Hennadii Stepanov: clang-tidy: Fix `modernize-use-default-member-init` in headers
01:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b0e9169 Hennadii Stepanov: clang-tidy: Force to check all headers
01:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e1bf547 MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26705: clang-tidy: Fix `modernize-use-default-member...
01:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #26705: clang-tidy: Fix `modernize-use-default-member-init` in headers and force to check all headers (master...221215-tidy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26705
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03:18 < willcl_ark> I think we can get more complete bug reports from users via issues if we update our issue template to use the new yaml format (GitHub). IMO these forms are easier for users to fill in, and in being so they can persuade the user to provide more details in the initial report. I've been trying this out on my master branch, but I'm curious to know if there is any general reason I'm not aware of that we'd stick to the older *.md
03:18 < willcl_ark> templates before opening a PR? https://github.com/willcl-ark/bitcoin/issues/new/choose
03:19 < fanquake> Swapping seems like a good idea. Those templates / forms look good
03:19 < willcl_ark> OK, I'll open a PR to get more general feedback then
03:20 < fanquake> Can probably make more of the fields required, and if people don't bother to fill them properly/stuff them with nonsense, it's grounds for closing the issue
03:20 < fanquake> (in bug report at least)
03:20 < willcl_ark> Yep! There are also dropdowns and checkboxes available to us liek this...
03:21 < fanquake> is there some fancy way to make the "gui issue" button just redirect to GUI repo, so we never actually get those isues
03:21 < willcl_ark> I will investigate...
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03:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e1bf5470f919...17acbc1a5a8d
03:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7a820ce Hennadii Stepanov: test, build: Separate `read_json` function into its own module
03:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 17acbc1 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#25974: test, build: Separate `read_json` function in...
03:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #25974: test, build: Separate `read_json` function into its own module (master...220901-test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/25974
03:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/17acbc1a5a8d...22ccf4e3603a
03:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e325e0f willcl-ark: doc: Fix comment syntax error
03:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 47c174d willcl-ark: doc: NetPermissionFlags for tx relay in blocksonly
03:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 22ccf4e glozow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26991: doc: followups to #26471
03:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #26991: doc: followups to #26471 (master...26471-followups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26991
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03:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke opened pull request #27012: ci: Print iwyu patch in git diff format (master...2302-ci-iwyu-git-diff-📖) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27012
03:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #27013: ci: avoid using `-Werror` for older compilers (master...avoid_werror_older_release_compiler) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27013
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07:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/22ccf4e3603a...8fc3bcf93d0d
07:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 87f11ef Sebastian Falbesoner: refactor: use `Hash` helper for double-SHA256 calculations
07:00 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8fc3bcf MarcoFalke: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27010: refactor: use `Hash` helpers for double-SHA25...
07:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MarcoFalke merged pull request #27010: refactor: use `Hash` helpers for double-SHA256 calculations (master...202301-refactor-use_double_sha256_helper) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27010
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07:32 < fjahr> I created a fake asmap-data repo here, just to demo how a pr review process might look like as a basis for further discussion: https://github.com/fjahr/asmap-data/pull/1
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07:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #27015: p2p: 26847 fixups (AddrMan totals) (master...202302_addrman_testfix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27015
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07:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8fc3bcf93d0d...550e6bd227c3
07:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa451d4 MarcoFalke: Fix clang-tidy readability-const-return-type violations
07:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 550e6bd fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26935: refactor: Fix clang-tidy readability-const-re...
07:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #26935: refactor: Fix clang-tidy readability-const-return-type violations (master...2301-readability-const-return-type-🛥) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26935
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07:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/550e6bd227c3...2d5acc901db3
07:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 59cc66a Martin Zumsande: test: Remove AddrMan unit test that fails consistency checks
07:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master dc70c1e Martin Zumsande: addrman: Use std::nullopt instead of {}
07:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2d5acc9 fanquake: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#27015: p2p: 26847 fixups (AddrMan totals)
07:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #27015: p2p: 26847 fixups (AddrMan totals) (master...202302_addrman_testfix) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27015
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08:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #27016: mapport: require miniupnpc API version 17 or later (master...mostly_non_broken_upnp_verions) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27016
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09:13 < sdaftuar> instagibbs: might be easier to talk through here if the explanation i posted in #26933 isn't clear
09:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26933 | mempool: disallow txns under min relay fee, even in packages by glozow · Pull Request #26933 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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09:31 < instagibbs> sdaftuar, yeah im not exactly clear on it
09:31 < instagibbs> I'm probably glossing over key words in your explanation
09:33 < instagibbs> so there's the key issue that's being discussed, where a transaction that doesn't meet min relay may make it into mempool via package relay, and then the cpfp'ing child is dropped due to rbf. This results in essentially 0-fee transactions floating in the mempool never to be mined
09:33 < sdaftuar> right, so i have 2 solutions to that:
09:33 < sdaftuar> 1) mine everything
09:34 < sdaftuar> 2) to handle the literally 0-fee case, trim descendant packages that are below the minrelayfee
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09:34 < sdaftuar> because 0-fee transactions are bad for miners to include in blocks (strictly worse for them)
09:34 < instagibbs> 1) mine everything, except 0-fee ?
09:35 < sdaftuar> if we trim whenever we add something to the mempool, there won't be any 0-fee packages that get selected
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09:35 < sdaftuar> because everything will have some descendant that bumps its feerate to above 0 (but possibly still less than minrelayfee)
09:37 < instagibbs> Why doesn't this run into the concern about trimming too much? 
09:37 < sdaftuar> you mean, we might trim something that has a good ancestor score?
09:38 < instagibbs> say, a single tx evicts 100 CPFP children, making 2500 0-fee ancestors lying around
09:38 < instagibbs> I'm surely missing a concept which is obvious to you which is why I'm trying to get very concrete 
09:38 < sdaftuar> oh, i see.  i guess that is possible, but not so different from what can happen already with rbf?
09:39 < instagibbs> It would mean TrimToFee step might do 2500 trims vs 100(bip125 direct conflict limit)
09:39 < sdaftuar> yes but those 100 might have 24 ancestors each, which all need to be updated (even if not removed). i'm not sure how much more expensive removal is than updating.
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09:40 < instagibbs> I plead ignorance on that for sure
09:40 < sdaftuar> also, when the mempool is actually busy, we can do a lot of eviction already i think?  a big transaction can come in and evict a lot of packages
09:40 < sdaftuar> when the mempool is full i mean
09:40 < instagibbs> I think you'r ereplaying _aj_ comment here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26933#issuecomment-1399919892
09:43 < sdaftuar> yeah, roughly. actually i'm not sure how the mempool memory works out exactly for verifying that calculation, but i think he's approximately right
09:43 < sdaftuar> i think another way i'd put it is, we have bigger DoS problems with transaction acceptance than what I anticipate to be the case with trimtosize evicting 0-fee things
09:44 < sdaftuar> that's not a great answer, perhaps, because weshould fix everything! :)
09:44 < sdaftuar> but i dont' think the approach here woudl be something that we couldn't engineer to be fast if we needed to
09:45 < instagibbs> ok well I think I understand your comments now, I had a bit of a disconnect vs the prior convo
09:45 < sdaftuar> we should benchmark eviction to make sure it's not super slow for some reason, too.
09:45 < sdaftuar> obviously we wouldn't want to introduce some new form of DoS
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11:11 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow opened pull request #27018: mempool / miner: regularly flush below-minrelayfeerate entries, mine everything in the mempool (master...2023-01-flushandmine) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27018
11:12 < glozow> sdaftuar: instagibbs: #27018 implements the alternative approach suggested. We can also consider a combination of the two if we are concerned about the 2500-tx replacement scenario.
11:12 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/27018 | mempool / miner: regularly flush below-minrelayfeerate entries, mine everything in the mempool by glozow · Pull Request #27018 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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11:22 < sdaftuar> glozow: awesome, thanks! also i did not think of this: "This means you can remove a transaction from your own mempool by calling prioritisetransaction with a negative value"
11:22 < sdaftuar> my first impression is that i think that is sort of awesome behavior... but will give it more thought.
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11:35 < sipa> fjahr: A few comments, I haven't looked at any code yet.
11:36 < sipa> Have you seen https://github.com/sipa/asmap/blob/nextgen/bottleneck.py? It does the "last common ASN" analysis/filtering for bgpdump output for me in ~2 hours for 700M bgpdump lines. Perhaps that's faster than what you have?
11:36 < glozow> Yes I think it’s quite convenient for testing, though hopefully users don’t get confused and think they can cancel a tx after broadcasting
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11:38 < sipa> I don't understand where the multimap idea fits in. I realize that there can be conflicting data, so there are multiple ASNs for a single IP range, but even if this were encodable in the asmap file format, how would Bitcoin Core use it? Unless there is a useful way to incorporate this information, my thinking is that you just need a deterministic mechanism for picking one of the options.
11:40 < sipa> Also, have you thought about how the data would (eventually) be included in Bitcoin Core? My thinking is that over time we'd perhaps just want it built into the binary, and that this built-in version would be used as default unless overridden. For auditability, that probably means a way to export the encoded asmap data, and/or RPCs to perform lookups in it.
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11:41 < sipa> In my own experiments, in case there are multiple viable ASNs for the same IP range, it almost always seems there is one that appears in far more routes than the others, so that'd be an obvious way for selection.
11:45 < sdaftuar> glozow: agreed, that is a concern. i wonder what usage patterns are common among miners for that RPC: would it make sense to restrict to the values to being nonnegative? (guessing that would break someone's use case, but really i have no idea)
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12:08 < codo> Does bitcoin-git detect when there is conversation and then keeps silent? Or is there no github activity because people are busy having the conversation?
12:09 < sipa> codo: Neither.
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12:10 < codo> It appears to be more chatty on my screen when there is no conversation?
12:11 < sipa> I can't imagine that's anything but a coincidence.
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14:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/2d5acc901db3...fdd363ebd917
14:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6d31900 furszy: wallet: migrate wallet, exit early if no legacy data exist
14:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fdd363e Andrew Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#26910: wallet: migrate wallet, exit early if no lega...
14:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #26910: wallet: migrate wallet, exit early if no legacy data exist (master...2022_wallet_prevent_descriptors_migration) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/26910
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15:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] BritanniaDev opened pull request #27020: Merge Updates V3.1.1 (master...britanniacoin-current) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27020
15:07 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] BritanniaDev closed pull request #27020: Merge Updates V3.1.1 (master...britanniacoin-current) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27020
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