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-!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@user/AaronvanW] has quit [Quit: Leaving...] 16:09 -!- AmunRa [~NorrinRad@gateway/tor-sasl/norrinradd] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 16:38 -!- AmunRa [~NorrinRad@gateway/tor-sasl/norrinradd] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:07 -!- jonatack [~jonatack@user/jonatack] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:18 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:19 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 17:29 -!- FrancisMr [~MrFrancis@2001:8a0:fa4c:901:7df2:4861:854:89f4] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Bhaney44 opened pull request #27042: Hub dataset added (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27042 18:24 -!- FrancisMr [~MrFrancis@2001:8a0:fa4c:901:7df2:4861:854:89f4] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:43 -!- Zenton [~user@user/zenton] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 18:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #27042: Hub dataset added (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27042 18:57 < phantomcircuit> achow101: so i definitely think there needs to at least be someway for people to use large filters 18:57 < phantomcircuit> since if you have a wallet with >500k keys the filters are worse than useless with the basic filter parameters 19:01 -!- hsmiths [~Thunderbi@76-240-112-146.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has quit [Quit: hsmiths] 19:02 -!- hsmiths [~Thunderbi@76-240-112-146.lightspeed.irvnca.sbcglobal.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:34 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:35 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:37 -!- AmunRa [~NorrinRad@gateway/tor-sasl/norrinradd] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:38 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:38 -!- AmunRa [~NorrinRad@gateway/tor-sasl/norrinradd] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:38 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 19:59 < sipa> Given a known about of scriptPubKeys to watch for, can you determine what FP rate of the filter is optimal? 20:02 -!- SpellChecker [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:04 -!- SpellChecker [~SpellChec@user/SpellChecker] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 20:14 -!- piku [~piku@47-202-113-113.tamp.fl.frontiernet.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:37 -!- nanotube [~nanotube@user/nanotube] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:47 < phantomcircuit> sipa: i think it's some function of the non-false positive rate and the relative cost of decoding and scanning a block 20:47 < phantomcircuit> the non-false positive rate is unknowable ahead of time though 20:48 < phantomcircuit> it's also not really a question of optimal time wise as it's a time/space trade off (possibly at some extreme filter size it would be slower, but I doubt it) 20:49 < phantomcircuit> i was actually thinking that saving the raw siphashes might be worth it for people with very large wallets, but if they have lots of transactions they're going to be scanning most of the blocks anyways 20:50 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14c:3bfb:8a:864:ab5a:7a82:f6ad] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:51 < phantomcircuit> for the bip157/158 filters there's an optimal size, since there's a single thing you're optimizing for, bandwidth, but with filters on disk it's definitely harder to choose a filter size as it's a time/disk space trade off 20:51 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14c:3bfb:8a:864:ab5a:7a82:f6ad] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:01 -!- cmirror [~cmirror@4.53.92.114] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 21:14 < phantomcircuit> sipa: that being said on a wallet with 750k keys going from P=32 to P=48 actually cost me 2 minutes, presumably because the decoder is slow 21:52 -!- Yihen [~textual@103.138.75.83] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 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