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03:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] laanwj closed pull request #29874: test: Add large aligned vmov check for mingw (master...2024-04-forbidden-vmov-check) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29874
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05:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] furszy opened pull request #30122: bench: enable wallet creation benchmarks on all platforms (master...2024_bench_enable_wallet_create) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30122
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07:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
07:00 < jonatack> hi
07:00 < TheCharlatan> hi
07:00 < pinheadmz> hi
07:00 < hebasto> hi
07:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: achow101 _aj_ amiti ariard aureleoules b10c BlueMatt brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge dongcarl fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jamesob jarolrod jonatack josibake kallewoof kanzure kouloumos kvaciral laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr MacroFake Murch phantomcircuit pinheadmz promag provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi theStack TheCharlatan vasild
07:00 < willcl-ark> hi
07:00 < vasild> hi
07:00 < cfields> hi
07:00 < brunoerg> hi
07:00 < furszy> hi
07:00 < dergoegge> hi
07:00 < achow101> There is one preproposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add to the list?
07:01 < sr_gi[m]> hi
07:01 < b10c> hi
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07:01 < Murch[m]> hi
07:01 < achow101> #topic package relay updates (glozow)
07:01 < glozow> #30000 was merged (yay!). The priority PR is still #28984. On the p2p side, I opened #30110 as the next step. #30111 splits out the first 4 commits which are concerned with thread safety and should be reviewed very carefully. The rest of #30110 consists of more mechanical refactoring + tests.
07:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30000 | p2p: index TxOrphanage by wtxid, allow entries with same txid by glozow · Pull Request #30000 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28984 | Cluster size 2 package rbf by instagibbs · Pull Request #28984 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:01 < kanzure> hi
07:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30110 | refactor: TxDownloadManager by glozow · Pull Request #30110 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30111 | locks: introduce mutex for tx download, flush rejection filters on UpdatedBlockTip by glozow · Pull Request #30111 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:01 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30110 | refactor: TxDownloadManager by glozow · Pull Request #30110 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:02 < josie> hi
07:02 < sipa> hi
07:02 < glozow> And #28984 has #20072 as the first few refactoring commits
07:02 < gmaxwell> hi
07:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28984 | Cluster size 2 package rbf by instagibbs · Pull Request #28984 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/20072 | ci: Build Arm64 on Travis without functional tests by fjahr · Pull Request #20072 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:02 < glozow> sorry I meant #30072
07:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30072 | refactor prep for package rbf by instagibbs · Pull Request #30072 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:02 < achow101> so #30072 should go first?
07:02 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30072 | refactor prep for package rbf by instagibbs · Pull Request #30072 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:02 < _aj_> hi
07:03 < glozow> Yeah it's the first few commits of package RBF
07:04 < glozow> Oh also, I figured I'd ping on #29873 which seems to have some conceptual support, would be nice to get that in so we can do #29496
07:04 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29873 | policy: restrict all TRUC (v3) transactions to 25KvB by glozow · Pull Request #29873 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:04 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29496 | policy: bump TX_MAX_STANDARD_VERSION to 3 by glozow · Pull Request #29496 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:04 < glozow> (also feel free to bikeshed on the 25k number)
07:04 < glozow> That's all from me.
07:04 < achow101> #topic cluster mempool updates (sdaftuar)
07:05 < sdaftuar> hi -- so i think last week i mentioned i had been working on an esoteric issue. unfortunately i've still been working on it for the past week so i can just quickly update what that is
07:05 < sdaftuar> one thing that sipa and i have been discussing is whether we cna come up with some sort of "quality metric" for linearizations. there are a couple of reasons you might want this:
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07:05 < sdaftuar> a) having tests to ensure that our code does what we expect (eg regression tests so we don't break things in the future)
07:05 < sdaftuar> b) having an understanding of what guarantees we provide to users
07:06 < sdaftuar> so as a natural place to start, we can think about guarantees ancestor feerate based mining provides. however, it turns out that it seems to guarantee surprisingly little, and coming up with general properties that should hold up is quite hard
07:07 < sdaftuar> anyway, i don't have a good answer to this question yet but will continue to think about it, and probably set my sights lower for what tests we can include
07:07 < sdaftuar> that's it from me
07:07 < stickies-v> hi
07:08 < sipa> i'll probably open a PR today with low-level cluster linearization code
07:08 < achow101> yay
07:08 < sdaftuar> \o/
07:08 < sdaftuar> that would immediately become the PR to review please :)
07:08 < achow101> #topic legacy wallet removal updates (achow101)
07:09 < achow101> #26606 has been getting plenty of review and seems to be close. there's a few residual comments that need to be addressed, but those should be fairly trivial
07:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/26606 | wallet: Implement independent BDB parser by achow101 · Pull Request #26606 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:10 < achow101> once again, if you have legacy wallets, testing them with the parser would be appreciated
07:10 < achow101> #topic Ad-hoc high priority for review
07:11 < achow101> Anything to add or remove from https://github.com/orgs/bitcoin/projects/1/views/4
07:11 < glozow> Not sure if this should be in the project board, but I would appreciate some review on #29899.
07:11 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29899 | [26.x] archive 26.1 release notes + backports by glozow · Pull Request #29899 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:11 < achow101> glozow: added
07:11 < glozow> thanks!
07:12 < sr_gi[m]> I've recently opened https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30116. Given Erlay was listed in high review prio, I guess that should also go there 
07:13 < achow101> sr_gi[m]: that board is for whatever you personally feel should be slightly prioritized
07:13 < vasild> maflcko: would be nice if you remove your stale NACK from https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29421#issuecomment-1985212820
07:13 < achow101> sr_gi[m]: should #28765 be closed?
07:13 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28765 | p2p: Fill reconciliation sets (Erlay) by naumenkogs · Pull Request #28765 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:14 < sipa> i think we don't want to two ~identical PRs open simultaneously
07:14 < sr_gi[m]> I think so. I talked to Gleb and looks like he had no time to work on it atm, and he was happy that I picked it up
07:14 < Chris_Stewart_5> hi
07:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #28765: p2p: Fill reconciliation sets (Erlay) (master...2023-11-erlay2.1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28765
07:15 < achow101> closed, and added #30116 to the board
07:15 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30116 | p2p: Fill reconciliation sets (Erlay) attempt 2 by sr-gi · Pull Request #30116 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:15 < abubakarsadiq> hi
07:15 < sr_gi[m]> ty
07:16 < achow101> #topic moderators (achow101)
07:17 < achow101> The proposed moderation guidelines have been public for a couple weeks now, and there's been a bit of feedback. I think it's at the point that we can move forward with putting them into effect and electing/appointing/volunteering some moderators
07:17 < achow101> There is a meta repo where the guidelines will live, as well as any meta discussion: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/meta. the discussion about the guidelines has taken place there as well.
07:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 10 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/dd42a5ddea6a...75118a608fc2
07:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4202c17 Matthew Zipkin: test: refactor interface_rpc.py
07:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 09416f9 Matthew Zipkin: test: cover JSONRPC 2.0 requests, batches, and notifications
07:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master df6e375 Matthew Zipkin: rpc: Avoid copies in JSONRPCReplyObj()
07:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #27101: Support JSON-RPC 2.0 when requested by client (master...jsonrpc-2.0) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27101
07:18 < achow101> 2 weeks ago, willcl-ark and pinheadmz volunteered to be moderators, and I think there was general agreement for them. I think we can start with them, if there are no objections?
07:18 < darosior> hi
07:18 < darosior> +1 for both
07:19 < cfields> +1
07:19 < hebasto> ACK on willcl-ark and pinheadmz 
07:19 < brunoerg> +1
07:19 < abubakarsadiq> +1
07:19 < sipa> +1
07:19 < ajonas> +1
07:19 < dergoegge> +1
07:19 < b10c> +2
07:19 < josie> +1 
07:19 < josie> b10c: lol
07:19  * pinheadmz blushing
07:19 < pinheadmz> json 2.0 merged too plenty of free time now
07:20 < vasild> +1
07:20 < achow101> as always, we can make changes if necessary, this isn't something that's set in stone
07:20 < sr_gi[m]> ACK on both
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07:21 < jonatack> guidelines suggestion: "pull requests will be *aggressively* moderated" -> s/aggressively/actively/
07:21 < achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
07:21 < jonatack> +1 on willcl-ark and pinheadmz 
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07:23 < achow101> #endmeeting
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07:25 < achow101> jonatack: i believe the word choice was intentional, as in people shouldn't be surprised if their comment gets deleted
07:26 < jonatack> achow101: I think "actively" suggests it too, just less aggressively :)
07:27 < _aj_> could use "zealously", to be a bit less "let's have a fight about it"
07:27 < laanwj> +1
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07:29 < vasild> to me that first paragraph about aggressive moderation brings some bitter/negative feelings, like "you are enering enemy territory here!"
07:30 < achow101> jonatack: i suppose so. changed it
07:30 < jonatack> achow101: ty
07:32 < jonatack> thankfully on the bips repo it's been limited so far
07:32 < jonatack> (the need for moderation)
07:33 < achow101> jonatack: well there is still spam that we've been deleting
07:33 < achow101> but not so much brigading currently, although the taproot assets and ordinals bips prs have attracted that in the past
07:34 < jonatack> same, deleting. and twice reminded people to focus on technical review.
07:35 < jonatack> perhaps reworking bip 2 will help clarify the repo scope.
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08:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/75118a608fc2...2f53f2273da0
08:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0d114e3 Martin Zumsande: blockstorage: Add Assume for fKnown / snapshot chainstate
08:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fdae638 Martin Zumsande: doc: Improve doc for functions involved in saving blocks to disk
08:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 064859b Martin Zumsande: blockstorage: split up FindBlockPos function
08:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #29975: blockstorage: Separate reindexing from saving new blocks (master...202404_blockstorage_split_reindex) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29975
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10:48 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] theStack opened pull request #30125: test: improve BDB parser (handle internal/overflow pages, support all page sizes) (master...complete_bdb-ro_python_parser2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30125
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13:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-maintainer-tools] laanwj opened pull request #166: Improved check-dnsseeds.py implementation (main...2024-05-new-dnsseeds) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-maintainer-tools/pull/166
13:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #30126: Low-level cluster linearization code (master...202405_clusterlin) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30126
13:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoincore.org] dependabot[bot] opened pull request #1023: Bump rexml from 3.2.5 to 3.2.8 (master...dependabot/bundler/rexml-3.2.8) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/1023
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