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00:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] goodfirm opened pull request #31538: doc: fix 404 URL (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31538
00:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #31538: doc: fix 404 URL (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31538
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03:09 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #31539: optimization: buffer reads/writes in [undo]blocks (master...l0rinc/buffered-block-read-write) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31539
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04:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #31540: refactor: std::span compat fixes (master...2412-span-prep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31540
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06:01 < fjahr> #startmeeting
06:01 < stickies-v> hi
06:01 < TheCharlatan> hi
06:01 < b10c> hi
06:01 < fjahr> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
06:01 < sipa> hi
06:01 < sr_gi[m]> hi
06:01 < abubakarsadiq> hi
06:01 < Chris_Stewart_5> hello
06:01 < vasild> hi
06:01 < fjahr> There are no pre-proposed meeting topics this week. Any last minute ones to add?
06:01 < hebasto> hi
06:01 < gleb> hi
06:02 < cfields> hi
06:02 < theStack> hi
06:02 < _aj_> hi
06:02 < Chris_Stewart_5> well if nothing else - no meeting next week I assume?
06:02 < fjahr> #topic Erlay WG Update (sr_gi, gleb, marcofleon)
06:03 < fjahr> Chris_Stewart_5: we are going through the WGs if people are here
06:04 < sr_gi[m]> I have continued working extending the simulator and running some of the proposed simulations. I've been documenting it here, for those not in the WG: https://srgi.notion.site/Erlay-1537b3fef97780038aa6fa2ea5aef421
06:04 < gleb> I'm rebasing Erlay on master, took longer than expected... There is occasional discussion in the WG.
06:04 < sr_gi[m]> There are still simulations pending, but we've been answering some of the outstanding questions for peer selection strategies
06:04 < sipa> in particular, learning that a big open question we had doesn't seem to affect much at all is a pretty interesting discovery
06:06 < cfields> sipa: is that discovery in the ^^ notes?
06:06 < sr_gi[m]> It is :D
06:06 < cfields> 👍
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06:06 < cfields> guess I'll have to read them to find it :)
06:06 < sr_gi[m]> Down in the simulations section, but also: https://srgi.notion.site/Filter-fanout-candidates-based-on-transaction-knowledge-15f7b3fef97780d0b7ebdd62e60cc4fe
06:07 < fjahr> Thanks, i guess that's it from erlay...
06:07 < fjahr> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
06:07 < maxedw> hi
06:07 < kevkevin> hi
06:07 < TheCharlatan> I started hosting docs for the proposed kernel API here: https://thecharlatan.ch/kernel-docs/
06:08 < TheCharlatan> Currently chasing another ACK on #31483
06:08 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31483 | kernel: Move kernel-related cache constants to kernel cache by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #31483 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:09 < TheCharlatan> And looking for review on #31382
06:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31382 | kernel: Flush in ChainstateManager destructor by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #31382 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:09 < TheCharlatan> that's all :)
06:09 < stickies-v> there’s also a python wrapper available https://github.com/stickies-v/py-bitcoinkernel/ - adding more documentation but it’s about 90% feature complete and I try to keep it up to date with #30595, so feedback and contributions are welcome if anyone's interested in trying it out
06:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30595 | kernel: Introduce initial C header API by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #30595 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:09 < tdb3> hi
06:10 < TheCharlatan> :tada:
06:10 < fjahr> nice
06:10 < abubakarsadiq> Nice doc,  esp the examples, been playing around with the python wrapper
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06:10 < stickies-v> thanks for the battletesting abubakarsadiq !
06:10 < sipa> cool
06:10 < fjahr> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
06:10 < sipa> hi
06:10 < abubakarsadiq> yeah, new issue coming in @stickies-v :0
06:12 < sipa> I'm making good progress on adding an interface to TxGraph (see #31363) for dealing with reorgs. These are complicated because they may cause us to violate policy limits (cluster size/count limit), with no way to "reject" the change (as we can with RBF). So we need a way to "trim" down clusters in violation, which is a challenge if they happen to be extremely large.
06:12 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31363 | cluster mempool: introduce TxGraph by sipa · Pull Request #31363 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:12 < sipa> Hoping to open a follow-up PR with that soon. Once that is done, I believe all necessary components are in place to rebase #28676 on top of it.
06:12 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:13 < instagibbs> I'm actually reviewing, it's just a lot 
06:13 < sipa> instagibbs: i'm aware, it's much more than i had anticipated
06:13 < sipa> feel free to reach out with any questions
06:13 < instagibbs> will do (offline)
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06:14 < sipa> On the research front, there are a few interesting insights that may result in a more efficient (but still exponential) cluster linearization algorithm, one in addition to, or to replace the existing ones in cluster_linearize.h
06:14 < fjahr> I think that’s it for the WGs. If I missed a WG where someone is present or if someone joined late, please speak up now :)
06:16 < fjahr> Anything else to discuss?
06:16 < sipa> Meeting next week, I assume not?
06:16 < fjahr> No meeting next week I guess unless someone objects/wants to host one for a particular reason?
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06:17 < stickies-v> enjoy the holidays folks! see you in the new year
06:17 < Chris_Stewart_5> :+1: ^
06:17 < TheCharlatan> happy holidays and looking forward to seeing some of you at the hackers congress.
06:17 < fjahr> #endmeeting
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06:19 < instagibbs> sipa re:vsize limits being busted on large reorgs, IIUC current interface only deals with counts, not vsize. would this be re-delegated for the specific purposed of reorgs only?
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06:20 < sipa> instagibbs: my plan is adding a cluster weight limit to the constructor, and it would equally trigger the "oversize" property to violate it
06:20 < instagibbs> Ok!
06:20 < sipa> (txgraph doesn't care about units, so weight/vsize/size, i'm just calling it size)
06:21 < instagibbs> yeah fsure, feefrac
06:21 < sipa> right
06:21 < instagibbs> sgtm
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06:25 < sipa> instagibbs: i toyed with instead providing a max_size argument to the Trim() function, which would then trim down clusters down to the specified size (and count limit), but i decided it's simpler (both in interface and implementation) to just add a configurable size limit to graphs
06:26 < instagibbs> I think it's most natural, even if not necessary for computational reasons, to add at ctor time
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06:33 < sipa> yeah, my thinking evolved; initially the count limit and oversize property were just for protecting txgraph itself (so it doesn't need to deal with cases that require huge clusters to be materialized), while the policy aspect (cluster count/size limit as a rule) would remain responsibilty of the layer above (through txgraph functions to enforce it), but it appears much simpler to just combine the 
06:33 < sipa> two propertkes
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07:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c1252b14d714...5bbbc0d0eeb8
07:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e058544 Sjors Provoost: Make m_tip_block an std::optional
07:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 81cea5d Sjors Provoost: Ensure m_tip_block is never ZERO
07:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5bbbc0d Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31325: Make m_tip_block std::optional
07:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #31325: Make m_tip_block std::optional (master...2024/11/m_tip_block) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31325
07:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5bbbc0d0eeb8...bb57017b2945
07:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fadd568 MarcoFalke: fuzz: Fix misplaced SeedRand::ZEROS
07:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master bb57017 Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31521: fuzz: Fix misplaced SeedRand::ZEROS
07:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #31521: fuzz: Fix misplaced SeedRand::ZEROS (master...2412-fuzz-zero) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31521
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08:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31541: qa: Use `sys.executable` when invoking other Python scripts (master...241219-qa-signers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31541
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11:29 < achow101> 28.1rc2 bins up
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11:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #31542:  test: Embed univalue json tests in binary  (master...2412-univalue-json-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31542
11:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31543: cmake: Always provide `RPATH` on NetBSD (master...241219-netbsd-rpath) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31543
11:45 < dviola> is https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30997 planned for bitcoin core 29.x?
11:45 < dviola> or that will make it for 30.x?
11:46 < hebasto> dviola: as soon as it is reviewed and tested
11:47 < dviola> ah, good
11:47 < dviola> I can't wait
11:48 < hebasto> a half of Bitcoin Design community are expecting it as well :)
11:48 < dviola> I had some issue with qt5 apps on wayland, been investigating it and found the cause: https://invent.kde.org/qt/qt/qtbase/-/merge_requests/337
11:48 < dviola> s/had/have/
11:49 < hebasto> cool
11:49 < dviola> that patch is a proposal for qt5-base to accept it as a backport, but #kde-devel said it is unlikely for them to accept given that qt5 is already EOL
11:50 < dviola> fine with me, but I think it's still good that the issue has been found
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13:24 < laanwj> qt5 is EOL? i didn't know, agree getting the qt6 PR in would be good anyhow
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14:03 < hebasto> laanwj: https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-5.15-extended-support-for-subscription-license-holders
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14:16 < bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto pushed 2 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/compare/be23a6e23252...b4bebc316e76
14:16 < bitcoin-git> gui-qml/main 62468fe Ava Chow: wallet, tests: Avoid stringop-overflow warning in PollutePubKey
14:16 < bitcoin-git> gui-qml/main b4bebc3 Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin-core/gui-qml#440: wallet, tests: Avoid stringop-overflow war...
14:16 < bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] hebasto merged pull request #440: wallet, tests: Avoid stringop-overflow warning in PollutePubKey (main...241216-stringop-overflow) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/440
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14:29 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31544: cmake: Remove unused `BUILD_TESTING` variable from "dev-mode" preset (master...241219-unused) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31544
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23:44 < Sjors[m]> Does anyone know what UpdateUncommittedBlockStructures is good for in the submitblock RPC?
23:45 < Sjors[m]> I'm guessing it's there to support blocks coming from pre-segwit software? 
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