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03:04 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors closed pull request #27433: getblocktemplate improvements for segwit and sigops (master...2023/04/gbt) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27433
03:08 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #31624: doc: warn that CheckBlock() underestimates sigops (master...2025/01/doc-sigops) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31624
03:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Sjors opened pull request #31625: miner: always treat SegWit as active (master...2025/01/gbt-segwit-active) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31625
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04:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31626: depends: Use base system's `sha256sum` utility (master...250109-sha256sum) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31626
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05:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #31627: depends: Fix spacing issue (master...250109-gen_id) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31627
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06:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
06:00 < core-meetbot> achow101: Meeting started at 2025-01-09T14:00+0000
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06:00 < core-meetbot> achow101: Participants should now identify themselves with '#here' or with an alias like '#here FirstLast'
06:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
06:00 < core-meetbot> achow101: Unknown command: #bitcoin
06:00 < willcl-ark> Hi
06:00 < maxedw> hi
06:00 < brunoerg> hi
06:00 < abubakarsadiq> hi
06:00 < pinheadmz> "#here"
06:00 < stickies-v> hi
06:00 < pinheadmz> FirstLast
06:00 < hebasto> hi
06:00 < achow101> lol
06:00 < kanzure> hi
06:00 < tdb3> hi
06:00 < glozow> hi
06:00 < darosior> hi
06:00 < TheCharlatan> hi
06:01 < Chris_Stewart_5> hi
06:01 < achow101> There is one preproposed meeting topic this week. Any last minute ones to add?
06:01 < glozow> #here FirstLast
06:01 < cfields> hi
06:01 < jonatack> hola
06:02 < achow101> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
06:02 < TheCharlatan> nothing new this week
06:02 < b10c> hi
06:02 < sr_gi[m]> Hi
06:02 < achow101> #topic Erlay WG Update (sr_gi, gleb, marcofleon)
06:03 < sr_gi[m]> I continued with simulations this week, working to address the most relevant outstanding question so far: what is a reasonable proportion of inbounds/outbounds for fanout.
06:03 < sr_gi[m]> I’m still working on this question, but preliminary results seem to show that this is indeed a tradeoff between bandwidth and latency, so the parameters (and bandwidth savings) may depend on what is a reasonable propagation time for a transaction.
06:04 < sr_gi[m]> I hopping to have some conclusions by next meeting, if not the next one (so 2 weeks TM)
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06:06 < sr_gi[m]> That's it for me
06:06 < achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101)
06:06 < achow101> There's been some testing of the PR with other implementations, and one of these testers discovered a more general issue with sighash type conflicts
06:06 < achow101> 've opened #31622 to fix those sighashing issues.
06:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31622 | psbt: add non-default sighash types to PSBTs and unify sighash type match checking by achow101 · Pull Request #31622 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:06 < achow101> #31242 and #31243 are still the next prs to review. #31242 seems to be rfm.
06:06 < core-meetbot> achow101: Unknown command: #31242
06:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31243 | descriptor: Move filling of keys from `DescriptorImpl::MakeScripts` to `PubkeyProvider::GetPubKey` by achow101 · Pull Request #31243 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:06 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31242 | wallet, desc spkm: Return SigningProvider only if we have the privkey by achow101 · Pull Request #31242 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:07 < achow101> #topic Legacy Wallet Removal WG Update (achow101)
06:07 < achow101> No updates, still waiting for review on #31495
06:07 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31495 | wallet: Utilize IsMine() and CanProvide() in migration to cover edge cases by achow101 · Pull Request #31495 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:07 < achow101> #topic package relay WG Update (glozow)
06:08 < glozow> hi! I am still working on #31397, which looks closeish
06:08 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31397 | p2p: track and use all potential peers for orphan resolution by glozow · Pull Request #31397 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:08 < glozow> It looks like I could collect the currently outstanding comments into a followup, but also happy to update, so more review would be appreciated
06:09 < glozow> also i haven't given up on #31385 yet 😅
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06:09 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31385 | package validation: relax the package-not-child-with-unconfirmed-parents rule by glozow · Pull Request #31385 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:09 < glozow> I also updated the wiki doc about orphanage problems https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-devwiki/wiki/%5BP2P%5D-known-TxOrphanage-problems
06:10 < glozow> It's a more comprehensive writeup of what this subproject of "package relay" is attempting to solve
06:11 < glozow> That's it from me. I kind of wonder if we should rename this to "Tx Orphan Resolution" instead of calling it package relay
06:11 < achow101> #topic moving meeting later by 3 hours (achow101)
06:12 < glozow> ACK, but maybe more of a problem for the people who live in europe?
06:12 < achow101> a couple of us are moving to the us west coast, myself included. the current meeting time there is 6 am, which is not a time that multiple people there would really be able to do, myself included.
06:12 < dergoegge> would prefer to keep it as is
06:12 < cfields> 6am doesn't do it for you? :)
06:12 < achow101> the current time is optimized for europe
06:13 < achow101> cfields: i can barely do the current 9 am lol, but it's at least possible
06:13 < jonatack> ACK. The last change made the meeting times more difficult for me.
06:13 < fanquake> that’ll be 5/6pm in London/europe, so I assume you’ll just loose as many as you might gain
06:13 < jonatack> (When I was in Europe, I rather liked the evening meeting times, but I digress.)
06:13 < glozow> I remember last time we changed the time, we noted that fewer people lived on the west coast, and that's no longer the case
06:13 < dergoegge> we have great attendance right now, i fear we'd be giving that up
06:13 < fanquake> also that’ll be lunchtime for NYC?
06:14 < sipa> hi
06:14 < vasild> maybe have a poll?
06:14 < achow101> we can do another time poll thing like last time
06:14 < cfields> and I assume with +3 we'd completely lose aus/asia.
06:15 < sdaftuar> hi
06:15 < stickies-v> poll sounds like the best approach to me
06:15 < glozow> I propose using this: https://www.when2meet.com/?28273038-y9Yr7
06:15 < sipa> the domain name sounds appropriate
06:16 < _aj_> hi
06:16 < glozow> (there is no authentication but writing your name suffices imo)
06:16 < cfields> no auth required. I'm the glozow now.
06:16 < dergoegge> does that just assume a timezone? doesn't say what it is using
06:16 < glozow> it should tell you a timezone
06:16 < tdb3> glozow: are the times listed in utc?
06:16 < achow101> assume utc presumably?
06:17 < glozow> oh 🤔 I guess it doesn't. UTC yes
06:17 < darosior> Yeah im confused by the timezone too
06:17 < _aj_> yeah, +5h from now is an early state, +3h is stay-up-all-night territory
06:17 < jonatack> Voting would ideally take into account not only preferences but degree of preference / inconvenience.
06:17 < achow101> can also try https://app.rallly.co/poll/k0zyyk2uD3ug
06:17 < glozow> ok let's do that
06:18 < darosior> Looks like you set the timezone when creating the event on when2meet.com
06:18 < achow101> we can give until next meeting to get that filled out
06:18 < dergoegge> "Unauthorized"
06:18 < tdb3> to clarify, we're using https://app.rallly.co/poll/k0zyyk2uD3ug
06:18 < tdb3> ?
06:18 < glozow> yes, forget about the when2meet
06:19 < achow101> oh, real link is https://app.rallly.co/invite/k0zyyk2uD3ug
06:19 < achow101> the other one is admin oops
06:19 < cfields> 👍
06:19 < achow101> since it looks like several people aren't here, let's wait until next week to decide based on the results of the poll
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06:20 < achow101> any other topics to discuss?
06:21 < sdaftuar> sipa and i are here now, can give a cluster mempool update
06:22 < achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
06:22 < sdaftuar> i just have a brief update, i'm started rebasing #28676 on top of sipa's txgraph implementation. once that is complete we'll have a pretty good idea of what the finish line looks like (and this may highlight any sharp edges we want to address in sipa's implementation)
06:23 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:23 < sdaftuar> in the meantime sipa's txgraph PRs are the ones we'd like review on
06:23 < sipa> there are three open txggraph PRs (31363, 31444, 31553), each one building on the next
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06:24 < sipa> but i understand some reviewers are waiting for the full cluster mempool rebase on top of them
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06:25 < sipa> on the research side, we may need to replace the cluster linearization code (later, not now!) at some point, because the new algorithm looks super promising
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06:26 < sipa> when, and if, that happens, i don't expect txgraph to really change, except for swapping out the underlying calls
06:26 < sipa> that's it for me, i think
06:27 < achow101> any other topics to discuss?
06:27 < dergoegge> #21590 and #31549 look ready for merge
06:27 < core-meetbot> dergoegge: Unknown command: #21590
06:27 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21590 | Safegcd-based modular inverses in MuHash3072 by sipa · Pull Request #21590 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:27 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31549 | fuzz: Abort if system time is called without mock time being set by marcofleon · Pull Request #31549 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:27 <@gribble> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/21590 | Safegcd-based modular inverses in MuHash3072 by sipa · Pull Request #21590 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:27 < achow101> dergoegge: will look today
06:27 < dergoegge> thanks
06:28 < sipa> looks like there are some open questions on 21590 by TheCharlatan, will look
06:29 < achow101> #endmeeting
06:29 < core-meetbot> achow101: Meeting ended at 2025-01-09T14:29+0000
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06:29 < core-meetbot> achow101: Minutes: https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/2025/bitcoin-core-dev.2025-01-09_14_00.html
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06:29 < achow101> in case anyone cares, I had the meeting bot go through historical meetings too. everything's at https://achow101.com/ircmeetings/
06:31 < stickies-v> nice one, thanks achow101!
06:32 < jonatack> The poll begins at Wed 5 pm for me. Unclear how to vote :)
06:32 < achow101> jonatack: it's your local timezone
06:32 < achow101> it's otherwise hourly on a thursday utc
06:32 < _aj_> jonatack: it's the UTC midnight to midnight day i think
06:32 < jonatack> ok ty
06:33 < sipa> achow101: looks like the current meeting time is the current frontrunner, sorry ;)
06:33 < _aj_> sipa: i think my most recent mail's doubly-anti-cycle approach works, fwiw
06:33 < sipa> (maybe there is a tiny bit of selection bias here)
06:33 < sipa> _aj_: sorry, i need to catch up on your last... 5 mails?
06:33 < _aj_> sipa: :)
06:34 < achow101> sipa: just a bit of selection bias
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07:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] instagibbs opened pull request #31628: test: add coverage for immediate orphanage eviction case (master...2025-01-immediate-orphan-evict) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31628
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10:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] mzumsande opened pull request #31629: wallet: fix rescanning inconsistency (master...202501_rescan_bestblock) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31629
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11:03 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoincore.org] achow101 opened pull request #1100: Bitcoin Core 28.1 (master...rel-28.1) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoincore.org/pull/1100
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11:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 opened pull request #31630: doc: Archive 28.1 release notes (master...archive-28.1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31630
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13:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hannahz12 opened pull request #31631: upstage install (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31631
13:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #31631: upstage install (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31631
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15:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/66aa6a47bd8e...56725f882937
15:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1ea7e45 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: raise explicit error if any of the needed release binaries is missing
15:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 56725f8 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31462: test: raise explicit error if any of the need...
15:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31462: test: raise explicit error if any of the needed release binaries is missing (master...202412-test-skip_if_release_binaries_missing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31462
15:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/56725f882937...0a77441158cd
15:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 589ed1a furszy: wallet: migration, avoid loading wallet after failure when it wasn't loade...
15:33 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0a77441 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31451: wallet: migration, avoid loading legacy walle...
15:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31451: wallet: migration, avoid loading legacy wallet after failure when BDB isn't compiled (master...2024_migration_cleanup_after_error) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31451
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15:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fd2d96d Hennadii Stepanov: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless of `USE_BDB`
15:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 54115d8 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31617: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless ...
15:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31617: build, test: Build `db_tests.cpp` regardless of `USE_BDB` (master...250107-db-tests) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31617
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16:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/54115d8de5c0...37af8bfb34d6
16:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ff21870 marcofleon: fuzz: Add SetMockTime() to necessary targets
16:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master a96b84c marcofleon: fuzz: Abort when calling system time without setting mock time
16:31 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 37af8bf Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31549: fuzz: Abort if system time is called without ...
16:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #31549: fuzz: Abort if system time is called without mock time being set (master...2024/12/fuzz-set-mocktime) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31549
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23:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] barajeel opened pull request #31632: fix: Optimized Performance Update bloom.cpp (master...patch-1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31632
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