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02:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #32182: ci: Switch to dynamic library linkage in native Windows job (master...250401-ci-dll) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32182
02:42 < pinheadmz> Did stutxo actually write a full working poker client? Wow really dedicated to the bit
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02:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] GarmashAlex closed pull request #31966: tests: Improve stderr validation in test_runner.py (master...104910) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31966
02:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] GarmashAlex opened pull request #32183: tests: Improve stderr validation in test_runner.py (master...hpp25) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32183
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03:57 < laanwj> pinheadmz: haven't tried it yet, but the scoring looks entirely functional at first glance, the only thing i've noticed missing is there's no betting and no decision capacity for the computer player (it will just go along and show cards on showdown)
03:59 < laanwj> but yes it's definitely some serious commitment to the bit
04:03 < sliv3r__>  @laanwj that's bc he is going with multiplayer lobbies in the future :)
04:08 < laanwj> sliv3r__: satoshi's original vision !
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04:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 8 commits to 29.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d6db87165c6d...1344d3bd0f3b
04:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x a306048 Sjors Provoost: test: avoid disk space warning for non-regtest
04:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x 288163e MarcoFalke: fuzz: Fix off-by-one in package_rbf target
04:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x 7bc7af9 Lőrinc: fuzz: extract unsequenced operations with side-effects
05:00 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32136: [29.x] backports and 29.0rc3 (29.x...2025-03-29.0rc3) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32136
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05:33 < hebasto> it seems that new Windows GHA image `Version: 20250330.1.0` fails to build vcpkg's `libevent` package...
05:35 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed tag v29.0rc3: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/v29.0rc3
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05:58 < dergoegge> sipa: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/74d9598bfbc24c3b7bfe1dad5bf9d988381bf893/src/txgraph.cpp#L1110 this is sorting by cluster pointers (right?) which is non-deterministic
05:58 < dergoegge> for fuzzing it'd be nicer to not have that, similar to https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/30306
05:58 < dergoegge> would it be possible to change this?
06:00 < sipa> dergoegge: hmm, good point
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06:13 < instagibbs> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/74d9598bfbc24c3b7bfe1dad5bf9d988381bf893/src/txgraph.cpp#L1867 this one also?
06:27 < laanwj> hebasto: the same problem pinheadmz had a few days ago, with some mingw related files failing download?
06:29 < hebasto> pinheadmz eventually reported that it was a path length issue for him
06:29 < laanwj> yes, glad it did, but given the problem that sounds really strange to me
06:29 < hebasto> in CI now, it is incompatibility of CMake 4.0 with libevent `cmake_minimum_required(VERSION 3.1 FATAL_ERROR)`
06:30 < laanwj> right so clearly a different issue
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06:53 < pinheadmz> I also saw warnings about cmake 4.0 but ultimately got past that i think when i started a new VM with 2025 instead of 2022
06:54 < pinheadmz> https://github.com/libevent/libevent/issues/1782
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07:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #32184: ci: Add workaround for vcpkg's libevent package (master...250401-win-libevent) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32184
07:06 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] l0rinc opened pull request #32185: coins: replace manual `CDBBatch` size estimation with LevelDB's native `ApproximateSize` (master...l0rinc/cdbatch-size-estimation) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32185
07:11 < fanquake> I guess we need to drop these comments from the ci.yml, "Use latest image, but hardcode version to avoid silent upgrades (and breaks)."
07:11 < fanquake> Given that things seem to randomly update and just break anyways
07:13 < laanwj> yes, it doesn't seem stable at all
07:13 < fanquake> It's crazy how often the Windows CIs are broken in ways that have nothing to do with our project
07:15 < hebasto> I've removed the comment in #32184
07:15 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32184 | ci: Add workaround for vcpkg's `libevent` package by hebasto · Pull Request #32184 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
07:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] rkrux opened pull request #32186: descriptor: handle listdescriptors(private=true) in case of taproot descriptors having partial keys (master...taproot-list-desc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32186
07:30 < sipa> instagibbs, dergoegge: indeed. ideas (1) add a sequence number to clusters (which would need to be 64 bits so it never overflows, adding 8 bytes to every cluster, which is a bit unfortunate for future memory-saving ideas), (2) use (QualityLevel, ClusterSetIndex) as identifier, which means quality changes require redoing all chunkindexes in the cluster (post 31444), or (3) use GraphIndex of first 
07:30 < sipa> element as representative (meaning redoing all chunkindexes...
07:30 < sipa> when adding/removing transaction, but i think that needs those anyway)
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07:42 < sipa> oh but (3) would be annoying when compacting
07:48 < hebasto> re "It's crazy how often the Windows CIs are broken..." -- in this case, it is libevent maintainers' responsibility; we are also applying a patch that addresses exactly the same issue in depends
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08:07 < instagibbs> (2) sounds ok-ish? Transition only happens from ACCEPTABLE->OPTIMAL
08:09 < instagibbs> ah no, optimal->acceptable too
08:09 < sipa> i'll just add a sequence number now
08:10 < sipa> i have a few ideas for memory reduction, which can all be added in a later PR
08:10 < instagibbs> can always go another direction in the future, I guess
08:10 < instagibbs> sgtm
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08:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/74d9598bfbc2...80e47b192072
08:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4281e36 Sjors Provoost: zmq: use testnet4 in zmq_sub.py example
08:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8cfc09f Sjors Provoost: test: cover testnet4 magic in assumeutxo.py
08:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d424bd5 Sjors Provoost: test: drop unused testnet3 magic bytes
08:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #32096: Move some tests and documentation from testnet3 to testnet4 (master...2025/03/testnet3-4) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32096
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09:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/80e47b192072...ea36d2720a72
09:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 41f2f05 Sebastian Falbesoner: test: add missing segwitv1 test cases to `script_standard_tests`
09:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8284229 Sebastian Falbesoner: refactor: deduplicate anchor witness program bytes (`0x4e,0x73`)
09:32 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ea36d27 Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31340: test: add missing segwitv1 test cases to `scr...
09:32 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #31340: test: add missing segwitv1 test cases to `script_standard_tests` (master...202411-test-add_missing_segwitv1_test_cases) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31340
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09:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ea36d2720a72...c8ade107c84a
09:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0ff66b1 brunoerg: fuzz: coinselection: cover `SetBumpFeeDiscount`
09:40 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c8ade10 Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31806: fuzz: coinselection: cover `SetBumpFeeDiscoun...
09:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #31806: fuzz: coinselection: cover `SetBumpFeeDiscount` (master...2025-02-fuzz-coinselection-bumpfee) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31806
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09:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c8ade107c84a...6593293e47dd
09:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e047b1d jurraca: contrib: (asmap) add diff-addrs example to README
09:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 67d5cc2 jurraca: contrib: (asmap) add documentation on diff and diff-addrs commands
09:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6afffba jurraca: contrib: (asmap) add docs about encode and decode commands
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09:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky merged pull request #32110: contrib: document asmap-tool commands more thoroughly (master...doc-diff-addrs) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32110
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09:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #32187: refactor: Remove spurious virtual from final ~CZMQNotificationInterface (master...2504-refactor-virtual) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32187
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10:16 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6593293e47dd...6af68bb84bf6
10:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ec5c0b2 Eval EXEC: torcontrol: Define tor reply code as const to improve maintainability
10:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8e4a0dd Eval EXEC: torcontrol: Add comment explaining Proxy credential randomization for Tor ...
10:16 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6af68bb Ryan Ofsky: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32166: torcontrol: Define tor reply code as const to...
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10:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6af68bb84bf6...1a6fc04d815e
10:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7bb83f6 kevkevin: test: create assert_not_equal util and add to where imports are needed
10:53 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1a6fc04 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#29500: test: create assert_not_equal util
10:53 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #29500: test: create assert_not_equal util (master...testFrameworkUtilsOne) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29500
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10:57 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] pinheadmz pushed 1 commit to 29.x: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/compare/1b81b51f2806...f82133b87104
10:57 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin-detached-sigs/29.x f82133b Matthew Zipkin: 29.0 osx sig for rc3
11:07 < eugenesiegel> Is there currently any existing documentation on measuring fuzz coverage with the llvm toolchain?
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11:08 < dergoegge> there is a pr open to add those docs https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31933
11:10 < eugenesiegel> ah ok, that's what I was looking at. I wasn't sure if there were other docs
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11:11 < PennyEther> Hi all. Looking to find out how Block Tree Spam is avoided.  Eg, if an attacker sent a ton of valid blocks at N-400,000, what prevents Core from adding those headers to the block tree?
11:12 < sipa> PennyEther: https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/76018/how-does-headers-first-prevent-disk-fill-attack
11:12 < PennyEther> thx
11:14 < PennyEther> Perhaps you can teach me to fish -- would there be a way to find this answer without knowing the appropriate search terms like "disk fill attack" or "header pre-synchronization"?
11:16 < sipa> there is also https://bitcoincore.org/en/2024/09/18/disclose-headers-oom/
11:17 < sipa> PennyEther: good question, I don't know really
11:17 < sipa> but this seems likely a perfectly reasonable question to ask here
11:17 < PennyEther> Thank you. I try my best to respect your guys' time and knowledge.
11:19 < darosior> PennyEther: https://bitcoinsearch.xyz might be useful
11:21 < PennyEther> My next question is: Suppose I secretly had 55% of hashrate, and started mining a "ghost fork" from block N.  Some time (T), let's say 144 of (my) blocks later, I decide to broadcast all those blocks. Assume that at that time T nodes are only up to N+130 (assume this is less total work, eg, difficulty is constant)... is it safe to say all nodes
11:21 < PennyEther> would reorg to my chain?  And would the ramification be that TX's within those 130 of "reorged" blocks would go back into the mempool (except for any TXs contained in my new chain)?
11:22 < sipa> Yes, it should reorg. No, over some limit (I think 10 blocks deep reorgs?) we don't bother moving transactions back to the mempool
11:23 < PennyEther> Is there a limit to how many blocks I could reorg? The example used 130
11:24 < sipa> You should in theory be able to reorg back all the way to the genesis block.
11:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] glozow pushed 1 commit to 29.x: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/compare/f82133b87104...20b376c8a168
11:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin-detached-sigs/29.x 20b376c glozow: 29.0 win sig for rc3
11:25 < PennyEther> That would seem to imply I could spam some sort of data structure required to determine the longest chain.  Eg, I could submit 1m blocks at height = 2... the node can't know if they might be part of a longer chain or not.  Perhaps this is addressed in the article and I have to grok it
11:26 < PennyEther> Yeah, I just have to read it.
11:26 < PennyEther> Anyway, back to this reorg thing. So the TXs in the 130 blocks... they would have to be resubmitted?
11:27 < sipa> Up until the point where the attacker convinces the victim that they indeed have a sufficient-PoW chain, that datastructure is an O(1)-sized per-peer thing only.
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11:29 < sipa> PennyEther: yes, they'll need to be resubmitted (if they're still valid at all)
11:29 < sipa> but anyone could do that
11:29 < PennyEther> True. Thought in the real world, logistically, it may be challenging to resubmit some TXs
11:29 < PennyEther> Especially if N is >> 130
11:30 < sipa> in the real world, we might have bigger things to worry about than some transactions not immediately being remined
11:30 < PennyEther> Agreed.
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11:34 < PennyEther> I've lately been ruminating over the incentive to do such an attack, vs the cost. It would seem that "renting" 51% hashrate by starting several "independent" pools would not be very cost prohibitive. Suppose I started some pools that paid 10% more than FPPS, and paid in BTC hourly. Once I've collectively achieved 51%, my cost drops to 0... I could
11:34 < PennyEther> pay them BTC on the consensus chain then rugpull it later with a big reorg.   The only way miners could detect my attack is if a) they validate the templates I send them to ensure the parent is a block they are aware of ... or b) they notice network hashrate dropping and determine it is due to some set of pools (of which they are a participant)
11:34 < PennyEther> and switch pools
11:34 < PennyEther> That's my current understanding -- curious to hear thoughts on this.  If this is an inappropriate venue to discuss, let me know
11:35 < sipa> This sounds more like something for delvingbitcoin.org
11:35 < darosior> you lost me at "renting 51% of Bitcoin's hashrate wouldn't be cost prohibitive" :p
11:35 < darosior> But yeah this is starting to drift off-topic for this channel
11:36 < PennyEther> The sum total cost would be 10% of the rewards mined in my pools before I got to 51%
11:36 < PennyEther> Ok, apologies -- I'll take this idea elsewhere.
11:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin-detached-sigs] glozow pushed tag v29.0rc3: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/bitcoin-detached-sigs/compare/v29.0rc3
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11:46 < glozow> agh. there is something wrong with the win signature, sorry. need to revert that
11:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] marcofleon opened pull request #32189: refactor: Txid type safety (parent PR) (master...2025/03/full-txid-type-safety) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32189
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12:02 < instagibbs> marcofleon liked and subscribed
12:08 < glozow> err.... April Fools
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12:09 < Murch[m]> @pennyEther: Generally, I have had good results using a common search engine restricted to bitcoin.stackexchange.com, as the search function on BSE itself is not great. There are a ton of discussions of "majority attacks" and "chain-reorganizations" there, though.
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12:34 < sliv3r__> @PennyEther: I'm going to contradict @Murch[m] here, the SE search engine works fine for me (maybe I've been lucky with my searches). Many times I start typing in questions and the similar question recommender gives me what I'm looking for.
12:34 < sipa> Turns out searching works a lot better when you already know what you're looking for.
12:35 < sipa> https://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/33854/pg33854-images.html
12:35 < Murch[m]> sliv3r__: Yeah, when you start writing a question it is pretty good, but using the search field, I often don’t even find the question I know I’m looking for when I am using the exact terms that appear in the question’s title
12:37 < sliv3r__> Yeah, could be I always start asking before searching that's why :)
12:42 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] kevkevinpal opened pull request #32190: test: added coverage to bitcoin-chainstate testing invalid block header (master...invalidHeaderTestChainstate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32190
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13:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #32191: Make TxGraph fuzz tests more deterministic (master...202504_txgraph_deterministic) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32191
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14:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jbampton opened pull request #32193: test: fix spelling in Python code comment (master...fix-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32193
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14:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/1a6fc04d815e...449e2eb7e40f
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ef00a28 Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Add workaround for vcpkg's libevent package
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 30c59ad Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Drop confusing comment
14:27 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 449e2eb Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32184: ci: Add workaround for vcpkg's `libevent` pac...
14:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto merged pull request #32184: ci: Add workaround for vcpkg's `libevent` package (master...250401-win-libevent) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32184
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14:44 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #32194: ci, windows: Do not exclude `wallet_migration.py` in command line (master...250401-excluded) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32194
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18:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/449e2eb7e40f...16b084f88d8c
18:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4a67993 Hennadii Stepanov: ci, windows: Do not exclude `wallet_migration.py` in command line
18:47 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 16b084f merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32194: ci, windows: Do not exclude `wallet_migration...
18:47 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32194: ci, windows: Do not exclude `wallet_migration.py` in command line (master...250401-excluded) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32194
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18:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/16b084f88d8c...6f6f83a8ca24
18:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4774a0c John Bampton: test: fix spelling in Python code comment
18:49 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6f6f83a merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32193: test: fix spelling in Python code comment
18:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32193: test: fix spelling in Python code comment (master...fix-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32193
18:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/6f6f83a8ca24...5541f7ced778
18:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa69c42 MarcoFalke: refactor: Remove spurious virtual from final ~CZMQNotificationInterface
18:56 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 5541f7c merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32187: refactor: Remove spurious virtual from final ...
18:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32187: refactor: Remove spurious virtual from final ~CZMQNotificationInterface (master...2504-refactor-virtual) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32187
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19:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jbampton opened pull request #32195: test: fix spelling in Python code comment (master...fix-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32195
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20:40 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] pinheadmz closed pull request #32195: test: fix spelling in Python code comment (master...fix-spelling) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32195
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22:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5541f7ced778...40de19164c4e
22:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 28dc118 brunoerg: fuzz: wallet: fix crypter target
22:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 40de191 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32118: fuzz: wallet: fix crypter target
22:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32118: fuzz: wallet: fix crypter target (master...2025-03-fuzz-fix-crypter) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32118
22:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake closed pull request #32181: BIP-777 (GPR) The Great Poker Restoration: Add the poker client back to bitcoin (master...master) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32181
22:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 6 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/40de19164c4e...772996ac8be3
22:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa7e931 MarcoFalke: contrib: Add optional parallelism to deterministic-fuzz-coverage
22:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa82fe2 MarcoFalke: contrib: Use -Xdemangler=llvm-cxxfilt in deterministic-*-coverage
22:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa900bb MarcoFalke: contrib: Only print fuzz output on failure
22:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32158: fuzz: Make partially_downloaded_block more deterministic (master...2503-fuzz-det) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32158
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23:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b96f1a6 Prabhat Verma: add clang/llvm based coverage report generation
23:15 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cfa7f70 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#31933: doc: Add Clang/LLVM based coverage report gen...
23:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #31933: doc: Add Clang/LLVM based coverage report generation (master...pv/add_llvm_based_coverage) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31933
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