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01:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/33f8f8ae4ced...7c87a0e3fb1b
01:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa2b2aa MarcoFalke: lint: Add archived notes to default excludes
01:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa9198a MarcoFalke: lint: Check for missing trailing newline
01:25 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7c87a0e merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32477: lint: Check for missing trailing newline
01:25 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32477: lint: Check for missing trailing newline (master...2505-lint-newline) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32477
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01:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7c87a0e3fb1b...548f6b8cdef5
01:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 19ba499 fanquake: init: cerrno is used on all platforms
01:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 1b9cdc9 fanquake: net: drop win32 ifdef
01:28 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7193245 fanquake: doc: remove For ... comments
01:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32562: doc: remove // for ... comments (master...remove_for_comments) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32562
01:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/548f6b8cdef5...af65fd1a3330
01:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa58d6c MarcoFalke: ci: Move DEBUG=1 to centos task
01:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master af65fd1 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32560: ci: Move DEBUG=1 to centos task
01:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32560: ci: Move DEBUG=1 to centos task (master...2505-ci-debug) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32560
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03:06 < hacker4web3bitco> Hi folks, I'm new to learn bitcoin core, ask a question, is there any doc about the cluster mempool implementation? I'm reading the code but struggles with the data structures relationship (bwtween like TxGraph, Cluster, DepGraph etc)
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03:43 < abubakarsadiq> hacker4web3bitco: https://bitcoincore.reviews/31363 review club notes is a good start. 
03:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #32567: subprocess: Backport upstream changes (master...250520-subprocess-backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32567
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04:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 5 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/af65fd1a3330...bc4b04c5bfb4
04:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6854497 fanquake: contrib: remove GPL-3+ from debian/copyright
04:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 0817f2d fanquake: doc: update MIT license URL
04:18 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f667000 fanquake: contrib: remove outdated entries from copyright_header.py
04:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #31864: doc: add missing copyright headers (master...copyright_cleanups) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31864
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04:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/bc4b04c5bfb4...cf2cbfac6599
04:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 359ecd3 Ava Chow: walletdb: Log the wallet version after it has been read from disk
04:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 39a483c Ava Chow: test: Check that the correct versions are logged on wallet load
04:22 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 4b2cd0b Ava Chow: test: check that creating a wallet does not log version info
04:22 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32553: wallet: Fix logging of wallet version (master...wallet-log-minversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32553
04:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cf2cbfac6599...0f9baba0fb6e
04:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6e5fc2b Hennadii Stepanov: test: Reintroduce Windows support in `system_tests/run_command` test
04:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 719fa9f Hennadii Stepanov: build: Re-enable external signer support for Windows
04:24 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 3a18075 Hennadii Stepanov: ci: Drop `-DENABLE_EXTERNAL_SIGNER=ON` configure option
04:24 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #29868: Reintroduce external signer support for Windows (master...240414-win-subprocess) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/29868
04:27 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #32568: depends: use "mkdir -p" when installing xproto (master...alpine_MKDIRPROG) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32568
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04:48 < sipa> maflcko: i find the LLM linter comments that drahtbot gives remarkably useful (not always correct, but even when not, they seem to indicate a misunderstanding that a human could make too)... is there any way to get more than 2-3 of them?
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05:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #32501: RPC: removeprunedfunds should take an array of txids (master...removeprunedfunds-array) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32501
05:26 < maflcko> sipa: Ah, good to hear it isn't completely useless
05:27 < maflcko> Though, sometimes it comes up with stuff that is completely made up (doesn't exist in the diff)
05:28 < maflcko> The number is capped at 5, so if you only get 2-3, then it didn't find more in that run. (The runs are not deterministic)
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05:43 < gmaxwell> maflcko: as the author it's probably pretty easy to ignore totally imaginary ones. :P
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05:44 < hacker4web3bitco> Hi I saw the code of cluster mempool has been merged, but seems it is not active for now? why?
05:45 < sipa> hacker4web3bitco: only part is merged
05:45 < sipa> see the tracking issue https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30289
05:45 < hacker4web3bitco> sure
05:46 < sipa> it will be active only once the actual mempool code is switched over to use it, in #28676
05:46 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | [WIP] Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
05:46 < sipa> but there are a number of prerequisite PRs before that
05:47 < hacker4web3bitco> gotcha
05:48 < maflcko> gmaxwell: Yeah, as long as the false positives are rare, it should be easy to ignore
05:49 < hacker4web3bitco> sipa I saw there are discussions about the linearization algorithm, will the min-cut one or the span forest one be applied?
05:50 < gmaxwell> There is a PR for the spanning forrest algorithim, and I don't think sipa intends to continue his development of the min-cut one currently.
05:50 < gmaxwell> though functionally, other than the algorithim internals, it doesn't much matter which the codebase uses.  Maybe in the future someone will make an even better one.
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05:54 < hacker4web3bitco> gmaxwell I see, I'll skip that part for now
05:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko reopened pull request #32535: rev_32343_wip_nomerge_ci (master...2505-rev_32343_wip_nomerge_ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32535
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05:58 < fanquake> Anyone want to put some eyes over #32292
05:58 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32292 | [29.x] Backports by fanquake · Pull Request #32292 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:01 < sipa> maflcko: my strategy so far is every time i push a PR anyway, i go over all the LLM linter comments and address them too (if i can find them, sometimes they're indeed imaginary)... but it always comes up with new ones :p
06:02 < sipa> hacker4web3bitco: i just opened #32454 with the spanning forest algorithm
06:02 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32454 | tracing: fix invalid argument in mempool_monitor by jb55 · Pull Request #32454 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
06:02 < sipa> but as gmaxwell says, it's really a drop in replacement, so it doesn't block all the other things
06:02 < sipa> ehh, #32545 i mean
06:02 < corebot> sipa: Error: That URL raised <Connection timed out.>
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06:04 < sipa> again, #32545
06:04 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32545 | Replace cluster linearization algorithm with SFL by sipa · Pull Request #32545 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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06:44 < schmidty> darosior: I will pick this effort up and work on a draft
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07:01 < sipa> schmidty: i have some thoughts too, will try to write something up
07:10 < eugenesiegel> Kind of a random question, what is the idea behind NetPermissionFlags and when would the flags be used?
07:12 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vicjuma opened pull request #32569: refactor: remove dump.h/cpp, wallet_bdb_parser.cpp (master...remove-deprecated-dump-and-wallet-bdb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32569
07:17 < sipa> eugenesiegel: one use case is a business having a bridge node (connected to both internal nodes and the public P2P network), where internal wallet nodes create transactions and broadcast and rebroadthem
07:18 < sipa> if a wallet in the internal network tries to rebroadcast, the bridge node will just ignore it, and not relay the rebroadcast
07:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko closed pull request #32569: refactor: remove dump.h/cpp, wallet_bdb_parser.cpp (master...remove-deprecated-dump-and-wallet-bdb) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32569
07:20 < eugenesiegel> sipa: hmm, makes sense -- I'm guessing there could be other use cases as well that I don't know about. since these peers do have more permissions and are more "trusted", where is the line drawn as far as what they can do to the local bitcoind instance?
07:23 < gmaxwell> eugenesiegel: there are just a very few things, you can see them enumerated in net_permissions.h
07:23 < sipa> eugenesiegel: i think the line is: permission flags correspond to an assumption that the specified node is trusted not to exhibit a certain kind of DoSy behavior
07:24 < sipa> but i don't think we should for example ever have a permission flag that results in not validating transactions or blocks from said peer
07:24 < gmaxwell> and they also mostly I think correspond to behavior where the p2p protocol was made more restricted or more rate limited but doing so would potentially mess up someones 'internal' use.
07:26 < sipa> Yeah, when txrequest was introduced we reduced the total amount of simultaneously-tracked transactions being relayed from 50000 to 5000 or so IIRC, but there was a potential concern that some internal corporaty setup might exist that every so often dumps an enormous amount of transactions at once on the network - so with a net permission that was allowed to be bypassed
07:26 < sipa> that said, i don't know of any actual usage of these flags
07:26 < gmaxwell> Or like mempool was a p2p feature that was removed.
07:27 < brunoerg> Another use case is to speed up tx relay/mempool sync on functional tests.
07:27 < sipa> it may be because they're only used inside non-open source setups or test environments
07:28 < gmaxwell> yeah I wouldn't be surprised if ~no one uses them in practice.  There are a bunch of bitcoin core features that are probably unused, but it's not really possible to tell beyond removing it and seeing who complains. :P
07:28 < eugenesiegel> Interesting, that makes a lot of sense that these were to preserve behavior prior to rate-limit / restrictive functionality
07:28 < eugenesiegel> rate-limiting*
07:28 < gmaxwell> (even if they were used when deployed, e.g. someone used them to keep an existing setup working, but they subsiquently redid it and forgot the option existed)
07:28 < sipa> gmaxwell: still, it's nice to have them when the change is introduced because we might not know... having the flag means that *if* someone complains you can respond that they can just turn on the flag, rather than not upgrade, or build a patched version
07:29 < gmaxwell> absolutely.
07:30 < eugenesiegel> I was looking into this because of the change from int32 -> int64 in the addrman and was wondering if a peer with the ADDR permission could crash the node. However, if the node operator has given a malicious node this permission, good luck I guess
07:31 < eugenesiegel> could crash the node prior to the patch*
07:31 < gmaxwell> I mean I also like some of these in theory, but I suspect in practice almost no one does configurations that elaborate. like whitelisted friend nodes would be nice and make me feel safer against some accidental screwup in banning logic (well, thats much less of an issue now that banning is less of a thing)
07:34 < eugenesiegel> I think there could be one sufficiently paranoid person that uses these options. I do like that these options are available though
07:37 < gmaxwell> eugenesiegel: regarding vulnerablities, I think it's a mixed bag. They sound pretty benign and so it might not be hard to trick someone into enabling one.  Of course, if the result really just is a clean crash then meh. 
07:38 < gmaxwell> eugenesiegel: but like if there was an RCE behind one of these it would be concerning indeed.
07:42 < gmaxwell> I'd like to hope that bitcoin core is secure against an extended threat model where a social engineer can convince a user to make safe sounding settings changes and the result is hopefully no worse than a denial of service.
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07:42 < gmaxwell> certantly scammers on social media respond to users technical questions and try to get them to do stuff.
07:43 < gmaxwell> fortunately most users resist "send me your wallet" :P
07:43 < sipa> gmaxwell: selection bias! those users who don't resist this stop being users
07:43 < sipa> or survivership bias, i guess
07:43 < eugenesiegel> gmaxwell: thanks, the clarification for DoS vs. RCE puts things into a little more perspective. I should look into the historical RCEs because those classes of bugs are super interesting to me
07:43 < gmaxwell> it's been a minute but we did see attackers have people set rpcuser/password. part of the bind dance was to make that harder.
07:45 < gmaxwell> eugenesiegel: there have been close to none. uhh. upnp was I think (but took wumpus a LONG time to figure out how).  I'm drawing a blank beyond that.
07:48 < sipa> upnp is also the only thing i can come up with
07:48 < eugenesiegel> hmm maybe I'm just thinking of the upnp one then
07:48 < gmaxwell> the heartbleed one was an information leak that could have been almost as bad though IIRC there were some mitigating factors.
07:49 < gmaxwell> but of course you never know for sure if something it's exploitable.
07:53 < eugenesiegel> Ah, I was thinking of this buffer overflow by practicalswift, not an RCE (https://bitcoincore.org/en/2019/11/08/CVE-2017-18350/)
07:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 18 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/0f9baba0fb6e...fad009af49c4
07:55 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa23ed7 MarcoFalke: refactor: Use ToIntegral in ParseHDKeypath
07:55 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa98041 MarcoFalke: refactor: Use ToIntegral in CreateFromDump
07:55 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa9c455 MarcoFalke: cli: Reject + sign in -netinfo level parsing
07:55 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #32520: Remove legacy `Parse(U)Int*` (master...2504-int-parsing) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32520
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08:02 < darosior> sipa: re net permissions flags "that said, i don't know of any actual usage of these flags" -> BTCPayServer needs some whitelisting because they use the p2p interface of your node, as far as i remember.
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09:15 < w473rm3l0n> gmaxwell: re: social engineering, *notify options can be used to run anything on victim's computer
09:15 < gmaxwell> w473rm3l0n: yeah though and also make it look benign?
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09:51 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #32572: doc: Remove stale sections in dev notes (master...2505-doc-del) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32572
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11:32 < bitcoin-git> [gui-qml] goqusan opened pull request #454: Add QRImageProvider (main...qrimageprovider) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/gui-qml/pull/454
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11:42 < sipa> darosior: hmm, do you know for what purpose?
11:43 < sipa> ah, found it: https://github.com/dgarage/NBXplorer/issues/344#issuecomment-1060043928
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12:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/fad009af49c4...878556947b0d
12:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 135a0f0 nervana21: doc: Add missing top-level description to pruneblockchain RPC
12:02 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8785569 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32333: doc: Add missing top-level description to pru...
12:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32333: doc: Add missing top-level description to pruneblockchain RPC (master...04-23-rpc-pruneblockchain-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32333
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12:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 11 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/878556947b0d...26fba39bda47
12:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7b816c4 Cory Fields: threading: rename CSemaphore methods to match std::semaphore
12:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d870bc9 Cory Fields: threading: add temporary semaphore aliases
12:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 6790ad2 Cory Fields: scripted-diff: rename CSemaphoreGrant and CSemaphore for net
12:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32466: threading: drop CSemaphore in favor of c++20 std::counting_semaphore (master...modernize-semaphore) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32466
12:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/26fba39bda47...9a887baadebc
12:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 2ae1788 Novo: Skip range verification for non-ranged desc
12:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 97d383a Novo: Test updating non-ranged descriptor with [0,0] range succeeds
12:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a887ba Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32344: Wallet:  Fix Non-Ranged Descriptors with Rang...
12:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32344: Wallet:  Fix Non-Ranged Descriptors with Range [0,0] Trigger Unexpected Wallet Errors in AddWalletDescriptor (master...bug-fix-wallet-add-non-ranged-descriptors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32344
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12:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #32573: ci: Avoid && dropping errors (master...2505-ci-bash-ugh) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32573
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13:52 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr opened pull request #32575: RFC: refactor: Split multithreaded case out of CheckInputScripts (master...2025-05-CheckInputScript-split) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32575
14:02 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr closed pull request #32133: RFC: Accept non-std transactions in Testnet4 by default again (master...2025-03-nonstd-testnet) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32133
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