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02:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 13 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/578b512bdd88...c99f5c5e1b42
02:39 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e5f896b glozow: [test] check miner doesn't select 0fee transactions
02:39 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 85f4988 glozow: [test] check bypass of minrelay for various minrelaytxfee settings
02:39 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 72dc184 glozow: [test] RBF rule 4 for various incrementalrelayfee settings
02:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33106: policy: lower the default blockmintxfee, incrementalrelayfee, minrelaytxfee (master...2025-07-minrelay) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33106
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02:56 < darosior> \o/
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04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 4 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/c99f5c5e1b42...7b4a1350dfd6
04:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 9a04635 Antoine Poinsot: scripted-diff: validation: rename mandatory errors into block errors
04:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b3f781a Antoine Poinsot: contrib: adapt max reject string size in tracing demo
04:13 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master c0d91fc Antoine Poinsot: Add release note for #33050 and #33183 error string changes
04:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33183: validation: rename block script verification error from "mandatory" to "block" (master...2508_rename_error_mandatory) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33183
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05:58 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #33193: Release: Prepare "Translation string freeze" step (master...250815-translations) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33193
05:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 9 commits to 29.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/565af03c37d8...837c5c7fd882
05:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x 3cd8612 Roman Zeyde: doc/zmq: fix unix socket path example
05:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x 9437415 deadmanoz: tracing: fix pointer argument handling in mempool_monitor.py
05:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/29.x a18b53f will: guix: warn SOURCE_DATE_EPOCH set in guix-codesign
05:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33074: [29.x] Backports (29.x...29_rc_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33074
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06:20 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto opened pull request #33194: cmake: Collect headers for extracting translatable strings (master...250815-tr-headers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33194
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06:37 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] crStiv closed pull request #32424: docs: clarify RPC credentials security boundary (master...ishak) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32424
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06:54 < glozow> gmaxwell: sorry I didn't see this earlier. Adding on to "kind of obnoxious if you have to change defaults to get the right behavior," I think a good rule of thumb for defaults is they should result in something safe/ideal if everybody on the network is using them. Not that we expect everyone to use them, but it'd feel wrong that there is free relay if they do
06:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] crStiv opened pull request #33196: docs: clarify RPC credentials security boundary (master...ishak2) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33196
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07:04 < sipa> ryanofsky: have you ever tried pycapnp (with the bitcoin ipc interface)? i'm trying to get it to work, but i'm not sure if it's even expected to just load our src/ipc/capnp/*.capnp files
07:05 < sipa> 2>>> import echo_capnp
07:05 < sipa> terminate called after throwing an instance of 'kj::ExceptionImpl' what():  echo.capnp:9: failed: Import failed: /mp/proxy.capnp
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07:28 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] Galoretka opened pull request #33197: doc: add Linux GUI runtime instructions to doc/README.md (master...docs/linux-gui-runtime-readme) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33197
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07:40 < sipa> ok, i was missing import paths
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07:45 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] stickies-v opened pull request #33198: test: ensure logs are flushed before reading them (master...2025-08/force-log-flush) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33198
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08:15 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ismaelsadeeq opened pull request #33199: fees: enable `CBlockPolicyEstimator` return sub 1 sat/vb fee rate estimates (master...08-2025-low-fee-rate-estimate) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33199
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09:13 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] purpleKarrot opened pull request #33200: cmake: Introduce translate.cmake script for translate target (master...250815-tr-headers) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33200
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09:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake pushed 3 commits to 28.x: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/5492e1be3b40...6e62b705328f
09:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 2a46f22 0xb10c: rpc: fix getpeerinfo ping duration unit docs
09:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 9f1b89a fanquake: doc: update release notes for 28.x
09:14 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/28.x 6e62b70 merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33143: [28.x] Backports
09:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake merged pull request #33143: [28.x] Backports (28.x...more_more_more_28_backports) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33143
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11:03 < Sjors[m]1> Some folks asked if I could add an historical overview / a bit more context to #31802, so I expanded the description.
11:03 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/31802 | Add bitcoin-{node,gui} to release binaries for IPC by Sjors · Pull Request #31802 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:04 < Sjors[m]1> sipa: I know someone tried in Rust...: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/libmultiprocess/issues/174
11:05 < Sjors[m]1> Which had some confusion over the exact capnp format we use too.
11:07 < sipa> Sjors[m]1: i managed to get a block template out, in python
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11:12 < Sjors[m]1> Ok, that might make (direct) functional tests possible then? #30437 is a more indirect approach
11:12 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/30437 | ipc: add bitcoin-mine test program by ryanofsky · Pull Request #30437 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:15 < sipa> Sjors[m]1: yeah, trying to make it work in the functional test framework, will PR a very minimal one
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11:16 < Sjors[m]1> So far I achieved test coverage for the Mining interface with a combination of unit tests and by having RPC method use the interface internally. But the latter has side-effects, see #32547.
11:17 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32547 | Mining: Avoid copying template CBlocks by luke-jr · Pull Request #32547 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
11:17 < Sjors[m]1> So I might take your minimum example and expand it.
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12:33 < ryanofsky> sipa, that's an interesting idea to use pycapnp. I think I assumed it wouldn't be feasible to add as a dependency to functional test framework, but of course it could be an optional dependency, we have many other tests that run conditionally
12:35 < achow101> we already have optional dependencies in the test framework for usdt, so that wouldn't be abnormal for us
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12:45 < ryanofsky> yeah I think I was making an outdated / incorrect assumption, it's a very good idea
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13:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa opened pull request #33201: Add functional test for IPC interface (master...202508_ipc_test) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33201
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13:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7b4a1350dfd6...97593c1fd3e6
13:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fab2980 Lőrinc: assumevalid: log every script validation state change
13:54 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 97593c1 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#32975: assumevalid: log every script validation stat...
13:54 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32975: assumevalid: log every script validation state change (master...l0rinc/warn-logging-enable) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32975
13:54 < phantomcircuit> gmaxwell, the minimum relay fees are kinda weird since it's protecting against unlikely to be mined but valid transactions wasting our bandwidth, but priced in bitcoin
13:55 < phantomcircuit> which fundamentally means we're setting a basically nonsensical limit whenever the price changes
13:56 < phantomcircuit> ultimately what we really want is some kinda of priority order but actually achieving that is very hard, the best i think we can reasonably do is... did we accept it into our own mempool
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14:03 < phantomcircuit> sipa, with the changes to the mempool that you're working on, does that include peers telling us what the feerate is for a transaction so we can avoid requesting things we would reject?
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14:07 < phantomcircuit> the feefilter message by itself (i think) would filter out low fee parents that are needed for child pays for parent
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14:56 < sipa> phantomcircuit: cluster mempool itself doesn't make any real p2p protocol changes, but i think we do end up reinterpreting feefilter as applying to chunk feerates rather than individual
14:56 < sipa> sdaftuar or glozow would know better
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15:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33202: doc: improve documentation clarity for issue #33197 (master...auto-fix-issue-33197) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33202
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15:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33203: doc: enhance documentation for issue #32698 (master...auto-doc-32698-1755296593) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33203
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15:26 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33204: doc: enhance documentation for issue #33146 (master...auto-doc-33146-1755296778) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33204
15:27 < gmaxwell> Anyone notice 82.66.103.79 connecting over and over again, says its 28.99 but gets punted for invalid proof of work?
15:28 < gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: really the issue of stuff that won't get mined ought to be managed by adaitive minfee-- basically every node should fill up with XX mbytes of stuff that isn't likely to get mined any time soon, and the minfee moves up on its own.  It's just that the whole thing is a little degenrate when there isn't enough tx flux to do that.  And esp if the minfee is zero then you can 
15:28 < gmaxwell> risklessly and costlessly abuse the relay network.
15:29 < gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: so really the number just needs to be high enough to prevent that, and not really any higher.
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15:30 < gmaxwell> phantomcircuit: but my point was all around how to handle changes. Ideally we don't want a situation where stuff is getting mined that is not well relayed, as that centeralized mining.
15:31 < gmaxwell> also because of that CPFP thing it's a bit better that a static limit is the operative limit rather than a dynamic one.. since it's easy to guarentee all your txn meet a static limit.
15:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33205: doc: enhance documentation for issue #33146 (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297082) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33205
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15:33 < sipa> gmaxwell: took me a minute to parse your "adaitive" as "adaptive" (my first interpretations were "additive" and "adiabatic")
15:34 < gmaxwell> hah sorry
15:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33206: doc: enhance documentation for issue #33146 (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297266) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33206
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15:36 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] MrDecryptDecipher opened pull request #33207: doc: enhance documentation for issue #33146 (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297390) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33207
15:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33202: . (master...auto-fix-issue-33197) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33202
15:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33206: . (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297266) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33206
15:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33205: . (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297082) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33205
15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33207: . (master...auto-doc-33146-1755297390) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33207
15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33204: . (master...auto-doc-33146-1755296778) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33204
15:39 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 closed pull request #33203: . (master...auto-doc-32698-1755296593) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33203
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16:31 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fjahr closed pull request #33134: refactor, index: Remove member variables in coinstatsindex (master...2025-08-csi-no-members) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33134
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16:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 7 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/97593c1fd3e6...57e8f34fe206
16:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e27da31 woltx: wallet: Remove `GetVersion()`
16:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 63acee2 woltx: wallet: Remove `GetClosestWalletFeature()`
16:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master ba01585 woltx: wallet: `MigrateToDescriptor` no longer calls `CanSupportFeature`
16:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #32977: wallet: Remove wallet version and several legacy related functions (master...remove_nversion) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32977
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