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00:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] jalateras opened pull request #33361: Fix #25980: Validate transactions in combinerawtransaction (master...fix-combinerawtransaction-25980) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33361
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00:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] vasild opened pull request #33362: Run feature_bind_port_(discover|externalip).py in CI (master...ci_add1111addr) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33362
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02:56 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] fanquake opened pull request #33364: ci: always use tag for LLVM checkout (master...libcxx_21_1_1) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33364
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03:10 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark opened pull request #33365: ci: Skip Centos job on GHA runners (master...disable-centos-forks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33365
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06:49 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior closed pull request #33012: script: return verification flag responsible for error upon validation failure (master...2507_script_errors) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33012
06:50 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] darosior closed pull request #32379: p2p: stop special-casing witness-stripped error for unconfirmed transactions (master...2504_less_input_checks) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/32379
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08:00 < glozow> sipa: #33354 should be before #33157, right?
08:00 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33354 | txgraph: use enum Level instead of bool main_only by sipa · Pull Request #33354 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
08:00 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33157 | cluster mempool: control/optimize TxGraph memory usage by sipa · Pull Request #33157 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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08:10 < sipa> glozow: happy to rebase either on the other
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08:13 < glozow> Ok then will merge
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08:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] bitgold7 opened pull request #33367: Posv3.1 integration (master...posv3.1-integration) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33367
08:18 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] DrahtBot closed pull request #33367: Posv3.1 integration (master...posv3.1-integration) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33367
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08:20 < sipa> glozow: great
08:20 < sipa> DrahtBot: good bot
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08:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/ee42d59d4de9...593d5fe37d7a
08:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d45f371 Pieter Wuille: txgraph: use enum Level instead of bool main_only
08:21 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 593d5fe merge-script: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33354: txgraph: use enum Level instead of bool main_...
08:21 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] glozow merged pull request #33354: txgraph: use enum Level instead of bool main_only (master...202509_txgraph_explicit_level) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33354
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08:53 < l0rinc> #proposedmeetingtopic mitigations of some v30 concerns
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09:00 < achow101> #startmeeting
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09:00 < achow101> #bitcoin-core-dev Meeting: abubakarsadiq achow101 _aj_ ajonas b10c brunoerg cfields darosior dergoegge fanquake fjahr furszy gleb glozow hebasto hodlinator instagibbs jarolrod jonatack josibake kanzure laanwj LarryRuane lightlike luke-jr maflcko marcofleon maxedw Murch pinheadmz provoostenator ryanofsky sdaftuar S3RK stickies-v sipa sr_gi tdb3 theStack TheCharlatan vasild willcl-ark
09:00 < TheCharlatan> hi
09:00 < dzxzg> hi
09:00 < l0rinc> hi
09:00 < sipa> hi
09:00 < hebasto> hi
09:00 < furszy> hi
09:00 < b10c> hi
09:00 < sliv3r__> hi
09:00 < lightlike> hi
09:00 < pinheadmz> 🎸
09:00 < eugenesiegel> hi
09:01 < theStack> hi
09:01 < johnny9dev> hi
09:01 < janb84> hi
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09:01 < brunoerg> hi
09:01 < Emzy> hi
09:01 < achow101> There are 2 preproposed meeting topics this week, any last minute ones to add?
09:02 < stickies-v> hi
09:02 < achow101> #topic Kernel WG Update (TheCharlatan)
09:02 < TheCharlatan> aj left some interesting comments in #32317. The conversation there binds into the larger discussion of how many changes to the kernel motivated by external users the project can stomach.
09:02 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/32317 | kernel: Separate UTXO set access from validation functions by TheCharlatan · Pull Request #32317 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:03 < cfields_> hi
09:03 < hodlinator> hi
09:04 < TheCharlatan> no concrete outcome from that yet, but it is probably a theme that will be repeated a few times still.
09:05 < ryanofsky> no informed opinion but my initial thought on 32317 was it make code nicer by splitting up a big function
09:05 < TheCharlatan> other than that, others in the workgroup have been adapting their respective language bindings to the latest proposed C header api. 
09:05 < TheCharlatan> that's all
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09:06 < achow101> #topic Benchmarking WG Update (josie, l0rinc)
09:06 < l0rinc> It's not about benchmarking, but the v3 release. People are scared for V30 and I think we could make a few changes that might help in calming the spirits:
09:06 < l0rinc> * people complain the new versions have become slower, one of the reasons is signature verification is enabled sooner with older versions. Some logging was already added, but there are leftover corner cases covered here: #33336
09:07 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33336 | log: always print initial signature verification state by l0rinc · Pull Request #33336 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:07 < l0rinc> * another reason for the slowdowns seems to be that the recently unbounded dbcache values are set too high and the node is swapping heavily - added a warning log for that case in this beautiful pr number #33333
09:07 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33333 | RFC: coins: warn on oversized `-dbcache` by l0rinc · Pull Request #33333 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:07 < l0rinc> * lastly a lot of people fear that their cloud node will get banned because of the block content - older nodes don't have block obfuscation enabled, added #33324
09:07 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33324 | RFC: blocks: add `-reobfuscate-blocks` arg to xor existing blk/rev on startup by l0rinc · Pull Request #33324 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:07 < achow101> l0rinc: we will have a v30 specific topic
09:07 < l0rinc> Thank for for the reviews and comments so far - what's the overall sentiment, could we include any of these in v30?
09:08 < l0rinc> my mistake, nothing from my side
09:08 < achow101> #topic Cluster Mempool WG Update (sdaftuar, sipa)
09:09 < sipa> good progress, i've changed the main PR to review to sdaftuar's #28676
09:09 < corebot> sipa: Error: That URL raised <Connection timed out.>
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09:09 < achow101> #28676
09:09 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/28676 | Cluster mempool implementation by sdaftuar · Pull Request #28676 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:10 < sipa> there are a number of txgraph PRs, but they're not on the critical path
09:10 < sipa> i think sdaftuar's is working on addressing review comments
09:11 < sipa> that's it from me
09:11 < achow101> #topic QML GUI WG Update (jarolrod, johnny9dev)
09:12 < johnny9dev> Not much at the moment. Working on adding QML testing on top of the unit test I added to get coverage on the views.
09:12 < johnny9dev> thats all
09:12 < achow101> #topic MuSig2 WG Update (achow101)
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09:13 < achow101> pr to review is still #29675, which has been getting some review that i've addressed
09:13 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/29675 | wallet: Be able to receive and spend inputs involving MuSig2 aggregate keys by achow101 · Pull Request #29675 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
09:13 < achow101> #topic v30.0rc1
09:14 < achow101> The rc1 has been tagged, although bins not uploaded yet. Any issues that people have noticed in testing?
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09:14 < achow101> There's a couple things in the milestone too https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/milestone/72
09:15 < hebasto> I think I could fix cmake issue from it shortly
09:15 < achow101> l0rinc: are those issues regressions?
09:16 < l0rinc> not exactly, but one is an incomplete implementation - not logging signature verification in some cases
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09:17 < sipa> in what way are new versions slower?
09:17 < sipa> i'd expect each new version to be observably faster, with the assumevalid point moved forward
09:18 < l0rinc> Yeah, I should have made that clearer: fetching the blockchain has become slower with the older node versions
09:18 < sipa> older?
09:19 < achow101> I think it might be a bit late to be adding draft PRs during the RCs, #33324 seems to have a number of open questions
09:19 < l0rinc> having assumevalid for lower block heights enables script verification sooner
09:19 < corebot> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/33324 | RFC: blocks: add `-reobfuscate-blocks` arg to xor existing blk/rev on startup by l0rinc · Pull Request #33324 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub
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09:20 < l0rinc> achow101: that's why I'm asking, there's Andre Toth's alternative for reobfuscation
09:20 < l0rinc> *andrew
09:20 < sipa> l0rinc: you mean just that old versions gradually become slower as the chain grows? that seems... inevitable and obvious?
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09:21 < l0rinc> somewhat yes, but instead of explaining it every time I thought it would be more helpful to show related logs
09:21 < achow101> l0rinc: I don't disagree with the premise, I'm just not sure that the pr can be sufficiently reviewed for the release, considering that we have now entered the rc phase
09:21 < l0rinc> got it - what about the two logging PRs?
09:21 < achow101> in particular, because it is a draft, and there are a number of open questions
09:22 < sipa> seems like a nice feature, but i don't think it's related to v30 or deserves special treatment
09:22 < achow101> the other two seem fine to me
09:22 < l0rinc> thanks for the feedback
09:23 < darosior> I plan on testing rc1 in the coming week.
09:23 < darosior> Haven't yet.
09:24 < achow101> Any other topics to discuss?
09:25 < TheCharlatan> would be interesting to test the mining interface a bit. maybe through Sjors client?
09:26 < sipa> we have python functional tests too, they can be expanded
09:27 < achow101> #topic Drop support for Ubuntu 22.04 LTS as a build platform (hebasto)
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09:27 < hebasto> purpleKarrot asked me to postpone this topic until later, as he is unable to attend today's meeting
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09:27 < achow101> ok
09:27 < hebasto> so let's skip it
09:27 < achow101> Anything else to discuss?
09:27 < hebasto> my apologies to all
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09:29 < achow101> #endmeeting
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11:30 < achow101> 30.0rc1 bins are up
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13:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/593d5fe37d7a...176fac0f16d5
13:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa4885e MarcoFalke: test: Remove polling loop from test_runner
13:05 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 176fac0 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33141: test: Remove polling loop from test_runner (t...
13:05 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33141: test: Remove polling loop from test_runner (take 2) (master...2508-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33141
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13:34 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] BrandonOdiwuor opened pull request #33370: ci: use Mold linker for asan-lsan-ubsan-integer-no-depends-usdt workflow (master...use-mold-linker-linux-ci) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33370
13:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/176fac0f16d5...e416dc2fbbb7
13:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 75d9b72 stickies-v: kernel: make blockTip index const
13:46 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e416dc2 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33321: kernel: make blockTip index const
13:46 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33321: kernel: make blockTip index const (master...2025-09/kernel-blocktip-const) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33321
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14:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/e416dc2fbbb7...f757da87f59d
14:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 653a984 Fabian Jahr: common: Make arith_uint256 trivially copyable
14:43 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master f757da8 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33332: common: Make arith_uint256 trivially copyable
14:43 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33332: common: Make arith_uint256 trivially copyable (master...2025-09-trivial-copy) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33332
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15:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 3 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/f757da87f59d...b81445333a10
15:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master facfde2 MarcoFalke: test: Fix CLI_MAX_ARG_SIZE issues
15:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fa96a4a MarcoFalke: ci: Enable CI_LIMIT_STACK_SIZE=1 in i686_no_ipc task
15:38 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master b814453 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33243: test: Fix CLI_MAX_ARG_SIZE issues
15:38 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33243: test: Fix CLI_MAX_ARG_SIZE issues (master...2508-test-fix-cli-cmd-size) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33243
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