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04:33 < sipa> for AVG_INTERVAL=5 (inbound), it would correspond to TIMEOUT=47.5s (=avg time in queue), or HALF_LIFE=32.9s 04:34 < sipa> for AVG_INTERVAL=2 (outbound), it would correspond to TIMEOUT=19.0s (=avg time in queue), or HALF_LIFE=13.2s 04:54 -!- mbrochh [uid3052@id-3052.helmsley.irccloud.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 04:55 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:08 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:12 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@138.199.6.197] has quit [Quit: Konversation terminated!] 05:14 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@138.199.6.197] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:15 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@138.199.6.197] has quit [Client Quit] 05:39 -!- enochazariah [~enochazar@2c0f:2a80:ed:5010:8ec7:7efb:62da:7bd8] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:41 -!- enochazariah [~enochazar@2c0f:2a80:ed:5010:8ec7:7efb:62da:7bd8] has quit [Client Quit] 05:47 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:53 -!- TallTim_ [~talltim@24.124.35.28] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 05:54 -!- TallTim [~talltim@24-124-35-28-dynamic.midco.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:10 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:13 -!- jerryf [~jerryf@user/jerryf] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:22 -!- enochazariah [~enochazar@2c0f:2a80:ed:5010:8ec7:7efb:62da:7bd8] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:28 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:33 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:48 -!- kevkevin [~kevkevin@209.242.39.30] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 06:58 -!- TallTim_ is now known as TallTim 07:04 -!- mbrochh [uid3052@id-3052.helmsley.irccloud.com] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:05 -!- Christoph_ [~Christoph@68.250.227.98] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:11 -!- hernanmarino_ [~hernanmar@181.85.54.57] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 07:17 -!- Christoph_ [~Christoph@68.250.227.98] has quit [Quit: Christoph_] 07:24 -!- bugs_ [~bugs@user/bugs/x-5128603] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 07:35 < _aj_> sipa: https://gist.github.com/ajtowns/483881c4162575c31437398174abdf51 from my python repl history; my examples there use 60s rather than 47.5s 07:38 < _aj_> i guess dzxzg's gone, but the other thing is -- bursts generally mean there's more txs being relayed than can be confirmed in blocks, which in turn means many people likely will rbf their txs to get them into blocks, so delaying a tx may mean you never need to relay it, because it will be have already been replaced by the time you'd get around to it. 07:55 < sipa> _aj_: the R*t term is problematic, and should probably be R*AVG_INTERVAL instead 07:56 < sipa> because what to do when there is nothing to send? (a) update the last-send time, but that means the very first send after transactions arrive may just send a tiny amount if the last trickle was very recent (which is always the case for NoBan peers, but i think the effect is undesirable regardless) 07:57 < sipa> (b) don't update the last-send time, but then if there are no transactions to a peer for a while, followed by a blast of many, it'll get sent all at once 07:57 -!- l0rinc [~l0rinc@user/l0rinc] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:08 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@138.199.6.197] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:17 -!- janb84 [~janb84@user/janb84] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:18 -!- janb84 [~janb84@user/janb84] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:32 -!- mudsip [~mudsip@user/mudsip] has joined #bitcoin-core-dev 08:32 -!- enochazariah [~enochazar@2c0f:2a80:ed:5010:8ec7:7efb:62da:7bd8] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 08:43 -!- Holz [~Holz@user/Holz] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 08:45 -!- saturday7 [~saturday7@168.140.254.169] 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