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00:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/d8fe258cd610...25212dfdb4cd
00:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master d4f47f9 fanquake: ci: use latest versions of lint deps
00:17 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 25212df Hennadii Stepanov: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33487: ci: use latest versions of lint deps
00:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] hebasto merged pull request #33487: ci: use latest versions of lint deps (master...ci_bump_deps) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33487
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03:33 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] willcl-ark opened pull request #33508: ci: fix buildx gha cache authentication on forks (master...export-action-vars) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33508
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04:19 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] maflcko opened pull request #33509: ci: Check macos-cross (master...2509-ci-mac-cross) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33509
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07:01 < darosior> _aj_: we already have ways to mess with consensus, especially with hidden options / commands. But i can make it unavailable to the user in init.cpp if you really feel strongly
07:03 < darosior> Regtest isn't an option because what i have are test vectors for a BIP. Regtest is Core specific and the test vectors need to exhibit mainnet-specific behaviour
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08:41 < _aj_> darosior: if they're test vectors that don't match mainnet consensus parameters, i'm skeptical that they're very meaningful
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08:43 < darosior> _aj_: well they are certainly a lot more than ones using regtest, where the actually relevant consensus parameters are different
08:46 < _aj_> darosior: changing regtests consensus params to match seems a lot less risky than changing mainnet's
08:46 < darosior> Ok it seems we aren't talking about the same thing. Nobody is suggesting to change the mainnet params.
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08:48 < _aj_> darosior: would you care to be more specific?
08:48 < sipa> darosior you're just talking about making the mainnet consensus params object non-const, and having some way to modify them from within unit tests, not through command-line options?
08:48 < darosior> Ok i'll push a branch
08:48 < darosior> I just want to let unit tests set -vbparams
08:48 < darosior> Nothing more
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08:50 < _aj_> for which chain?
08:50 < darosior> For the main chain
08:50 < _aj_> so you are suggesting changing mainnet params
08:51 < darosior> No, i'm suggesting to make it possible for a unit test to set the activation height of a soft fork. You are objecting as if i wanted to change the mainnet chainparams directly, which is obviously not the case.
08:52 < darosior> You are also objecting by saying that having test vectors on mainnet is pointless if it's not the right activation height. But it's unreasonable, i can't know the activation before having test vectors for the soft fork in the first place.
08:53 < _aj_> if you just want it for unit tests, then having some separate subclass of CMainParams that you access via something other than CChainParams::Main() could be plausible, but i remain skeptical that this is particularly useful
08:53 < sipa> for segwit we created a segwit-specific test network, btw
08:55 < _aj_> four of them or so iirc
08:56 < _aj_> darosior: which rule sets do you want to change the activation height of?
08:57 < darosior> I think that it's valuable for a soft fork that proposes a change to mainnet difficulty adjustment, to have test vectors that actually exercise mainnet difficulty adjustment. It's also not as if that required a massive change to Core, just let an already-existing setting not be exclusive to regtest.
08:58 < darosior> I think it's easy for us to take a Core-centric perspective and i want to make sure the test vectors have as little Core-isms as possible.
08:59 < darosior> _aj_: i want to be able to activate BIP54 when testing it. It does not have an activation height already.
09:02 < _aj_> darosior: and you're happy to have BIP34 inactive until height 227931?
09:03 < darosior> This specific unit test is exercising the timewarp and Murch-Zawy fixes. These are unrelated to BIP34.
09:04 < _aj_> darosior: then why don't you just activate it via version bits signalling?
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09:05 < darosior> To do this i would need to set the vbparams, that's my point.
09:05 < _aj_> darosior: oh, when the mainnet activation params are NEVER_ACTIVE?
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09:06 < _aj_> darosior: how are these tests supposed to work when activation parameters are determined, and eventually buried?
09:07 < darosior> You can just set the buried height in the test then.
09:08 < darosior> We have two arguments directing deployments, one for buried ones and one for version bits ones. My patch makes both available to non-regtest chains
09:08 < darosior> Just make something that already exist not exclusive to regtest. That's it. Nothing more. Doesn't even need to be exposed to end users if we think it's such a bad idea.
09:09 < _aj_> i don't think it's a good idea to expose it to core developers, let alone users
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09:10 < darosior> I can do other hacks to be able to run BIP54 test vectors inside Core, that just seemed like the obvious neat way to go about it.
09:10 < _aj_> am i understanding correctly that you're expecting other implementations to also just expose modified mainnet parameters in order to run your test vectors?
09:10 < darosior> I'm doing that for other implementations in the first place.
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09:10 < darosior> To not expect them to implement Core-specific test networks such as Regtest.
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09:12 < darosior> If you have a better idea for testing the timewarp fix than a bunch of chains of headers with various timestamps at difficulty adjustment bounds, suggestions welcome.
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09:18 < _aj_> darosior: btcd seems to implement regtest, https://github.com/btcsuite/btcd/blob/b7d070601def0f94e3713879b19f1678949a8d68/chaincfg/genesis.go#L106 ; and your test-vectors would be a new set of chain parameters anyway
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09:26 < _aj_> darosior: i'm not sure where you're putting the enforcement code exactly; but i would expect something that gives a [start-height, start-mediantime, start-nbits, vector<ntime>, valid-or-invalid?] and calls the test functions directly would be easier to use, and easier to examine
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09:47 < darosior> I think i'll just open the PR to inquisition and we can argue on the specifics there. I'm most of the way there, i mined the chains etc. But i'm happy to take an alternative approach if it makes more sense.
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11:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/25212dfdb4cd...8f73d9522146
11:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fc86133 furszy: wallet, log: reduce unconditional logging during load
11:01 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 8f73d95 Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33299: wallet: reduce unconditional logging during l...
11:01 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33299: wallet: reduce unconditional logging during load (master...2025_wallet_log_less) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33299
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11:24 < bitcoin-git> [packaging] achow101 pushed 3 commits to main: https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/compare/7db4fa1b01dd...dd351ba5fe0b
11:24 < bitcoin-git> packaging/main bbf7337 Ava Chow: Revert "snap: Enable `kde-neon` extension"
11:24 < bitcoin-git> packaging/main 7420996 Ava Chow: Revert "snap: Drop `desktop-launch`"
11:24 < bitcoin-git> packaging/main dd351ba Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin-core/packaging#298: Revert "snap: Enable `kde-neon` extensio...
11:24 < bitcoin-git> [packaging] achow101 merged pull request #298: Revert "snap: Enable `kde-neon` extension" and "snap: Drop `desktop-launch`" (main...fix-other-arch-builds) https://github.com/bitcoin-core/packaging/pull/298
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12:14 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] ryanofsky opened pull request #33511: init: Signal m_tip_block_cv on Ctrl-C (master...pr/sigwait) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33511
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13:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/8f73d9522146...7502d4e94038
13:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master fabc261 MarcoFalke: test: Use extra_port() helper in feature_bind_extra.py
13:30 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 7502d4e Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33260: test: Use extra_port() helper in feature_bind...
13:30 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33260: test: Use extra_port() helper in feature_bind_extra.py (master...2508-test-extra-port-doc) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33260
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14:17 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] sipa closed pull request #31703: Use number of dirty cache entries in flush warnings/logs (master...202501_dirty_coin_count) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/31703
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15:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 2 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/7502d4e94038...cc4a2cc6bdc4
15:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 451ba9a Anthony Towns: datacarrier: Undeprecate configuration option
15:23 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master cc4a2cc Ava Chow: Merge bitcoin/bitcoin#33453: docs: Undeprecate datacarrier and datacarrier...
15:23 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #33453: docs: Undeprecate datacarrier and datacarriersize configuration options (master...2025-09-datacarrier-undep) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33453
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15:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 pushed 8 commits to master: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/compare/cc4a2cc6bdc4...f41f97240c06
15:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e883b37 Vasil Dimov: fuzz: set the output argument of FuzzedSock::Accept()
15:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master e6a917c Vasil Dimov: fuzz: add Fuzzed NetEventsInterface and use it in connman tests
15:59 < bitcoin-git> bitcoin/master 50da743 Vasil Dimov: fuzz: add CConnman::OpenNetworkConnection() to the tests
15:59 < bitcoin-git> [bitcoin] achow101 merged pull request #28584: Fuzz: extend CConnman tests (master...fuzz_connman) https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/28584
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