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Cyclic groups are Abelian." from https://mathworld.wolfram.com/CyclicGroup.html 04:50 < thomasb06> so here "finite field" is the right term 04:50 < pinheadmz> thomasb06 https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/21907/what-does-the-curve-used-in-bitcoin-secp256k1-look-like 04:50 < pinheadmz> and here is what it "really" looks like 04:50 < pinheadmz> in the elliptic curve there is a generator point G from which all points on the curve can be generted 04:50 < pinheadmz> your public key is essentially just your private key (a large integer) multiplied by G 04:51 < thomasb06> in 2d, it's more natural 04:51 < pinheadmz> but once you apply the modulus (and integer-only-ness) its not as pretty 04:51 < pinheadmz> which is good! a huge map of random looking dots 04:52 < thomasb06> indeed, it really looks like completely random 04:53 < pinheadmz> and thus somehow your bitcoins are safe :-) 05:09 -!- da39a3ee5e6b4b0d [~textual@n11211935170.netvigator.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 09:13 -!- jesseposner [~jesse@98.37.146.62] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:14 -!- kristapsk_ [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:16 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19 -!- kristapsk_ is now known as kristapsk 09:20 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:36 -!- vindard [~vindard@190.83.165.233] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:36 -!- vindard [~vindard@200.7.90.175] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:54 <@jnewbery> hi folks. Next week we'll be looking at the c++ implementation of muhash in #19055 09:54 -!- musdom1 [~Thunderbi@202.184.107.133] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:54 <@jnewbery> https://bitcoincore.reviews/19055-2 . I haven't posted notes & questions yet. 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