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03:07 < wumpus> nice! btw it might make sense to do a review club about the I2P PR some time, it seems to be quite popular but also something that's hard to review without prerequisites
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03:38 < jonatack> that's a great idea
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08:41 < pinheadmz> jonatack i'd like to learn more about the I2p protocol and how it differs from tor. last time i looked into it, it was hard to find technical explanation
08:46 < jonatack> pinheadmz: there seem to be some resources now
08:46 < jonatack> https://geti2p.net/en/comparison/tor
08:46 < jonatack> https://www.ivpn.net/privacy-guides/an-introduction-to-tor-vs-i2p/
08:46 < jonatack> https://blokt.com/guides/what-is-i2p-vs-tor-browser
08:48 < jonatack> in any case, it was very easy to set up i2p... iirc i run apt install i2pd (or i2p, i don't recall)
08:49 < jonatack> then started bitcoind with -i2psam=127.0.0.1:7656
08:49 < jonatack> after building PR 20685
08:51 < jonatack> have a look at https://i2pd.readthedocs.io/en/latest/user-guide/run/ to get up and running
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09:01 < wumpus> i installed the java one, it's pretty easy to use (can be configured through a localhost web site interface)
09:02 < wumpus> haven't really looked into the technical details much yet, the main conceptual difference from a software PoV seems to be that there's a 'from address' unlike in tor
09:05 < pinheadmz> wumpus and i2p is "more" decentralized - although still requires hard coded bootstrap nodes i think
09:05 < dongcarl> We should try to get #20939 merged ASAP... All gitian/guix builds are failing because of it right now
09:16 < jonatack> yes, i2p has a "from" address, which will make some follow-ups easier
09:16 < jonatack> testing with vasild we saw today that addnode remove didn't work yet
09:18 < jonatack> oh heh, and since i2p has an address, you can't addnode a peer that you already have in your inbounds like you can with address-less onions
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09:20 < jonatack> not that you'd want to, other than for testing both ways at the same time with someone
09:24 < wumpus> I2P also has some more flexibility regarding connection types than Tor; for example they support datagram (UDP-ish). but not important to our use.
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14:15 < midnight> i2p is a bit .. more scary to run than tor. :-/
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14:17 < queip> midnight: why?
14:17 < midnight> I'll PM if you like
14:18 < queip> wumpus: btw, i2p generally recommends this message based API for such uses, as the more performant solution. Thou it might be more work
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