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[~Kaizen_Ki@node-1w7jr9yi65te55qu5d65v1opg.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 07:40 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [~Kaizen_Ki@node-1w7jr9yi65te55qu5d65v1opg.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 07:49 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [~Kaizen_Ki@node-1w7jr9yi65te55qu5d65v1opg.ipv6.telus.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:49 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [~Kaizen_Ki@node-1w7jr9yi65te55qu5d65v1opg.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 07:56 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 08:15 < michaelfolkson> Not sure which channel is best for this but I can ask about your recent post to the mailing list here glozow? 08:15 -!- robertspigler [~robertspi@2001:470:69fc:105::2d53] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 08:16 -!- karliatto [~karliatto@2001:4de8:fa41:36:3418:9f15:ef3d:a5c8] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:19 < michaelfolkson> I guess #bitcoin-dev but I don't think you are on that channel 08:23 -!- stickies-v [~stickies-@host-92-8-99-163.as13285.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:24 -!- stickies-v [~stickies-@host-92-8-99-163.as13285.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 08:25 < glozow> sure ask away, anywhere is fine 08:28 -!- grettke [~grettke@cpe-65-29-228-30.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 08:32 < michaelfolkson> Cool. It is viable for the final destination in future to be two docs/BIPs, one explaining the updated RBF rules and one explaining the package RBF rules? Or does it not make sense to split those? Need to be in the same doc/BIP? 08:38 < michaelfolkson> If we ignore package RBF and just start from the ### Goals section the current proposal for removals from BIP 125 is to remove Rule 2 and Rule 3. 08:40 < michaelfolkson> In this desired future doc/draft BIP I'd want an explanation of why they were originally included BIP 125 and why we think that rationale didn't make sense (or how our understanding has since improved since that BIP was drafted) 08:41 < michaelfolkson> This is all assuming that taking BIP 125 as the starting point makes sense. To me it does, maybe you disagree 08:43 < michaelfolkson> I think Goal 2 in ### Goals is an added rule to BIP 125 08:44 < michaelfolkson> The ### RBF Improvement Proposals seems like a brainstorming section for rule additions to BIP 125. Which is fine if we are still at brainstorming phase but the rationales for each of them seem a bit light 08:56 < michaelfolkson> You say "There are a number of reasons why, in order to enable Package RBF, we cannot use the same criteria." which suggests maybe attempting to finalize RBF rules first for single transactions in a replacement for BIP 125 before moving onto Package RBF may make sense 09:14 < michaelfolkson> For PRs like #24007 it would be good to finalize RBF rules for a single transaction before moving onto package RBF (to the extent that is possible) 09:30 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:31 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 09:36 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:58 -!- Talkless [~Talkless@mail.dargis.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 10:04 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 10:09 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:51 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68286-cdif17-2-0-cust533.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 10:56 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:1c0a:deda:9648:d9a6] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 11:01 -!- ___nick___ [~quassel@cpc68286-cdif17-2-0-cust533.5-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: https://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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