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03:45 -!- evanlinjin [~evanlinji@gateway/tor-sasl/evanlinjin] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:47 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:20d3:bade:a9c8:5a5c] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:15 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:23 -!- brunoerg [~brunoerg@2804:14d:5281:8ae2:20d3:bade:a9c8:5a5c] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 04:28 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 04:32 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:44 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 04:46 < michaelfolkson> I was reading up on this Miniscript bug, a pretty cool one. https://github.com/rust-bitcoin/rust-miniscript/pull/360 04:47 < michaelfolkson> You could trick the thresh into think the threshold had been met with a combination of OP_2 and setting empty signatures 04:48 < michaelfolkson> (Before MINIMALIF in Taproot anyway) 04:48 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 04:48 < michaelfolkson> I'm assuming this affected C++ compiler as well as Rust one 04:49 < michaelfolkson> Yeah it did 04:49 < sipa> It was a bug in the type system, not the conpiler. 04:49 < sipa> So it potentially affected anything using miniscript. 04:49 < sipa> And yes, the C++ version was affected too. 04:49 < sipa> And the website. 04:51 < sipa> https://github.com/sipa/miniscript/pull/117/files 04:52 < michaelfolkson> I wonder if anyone fell into this trap before Miniscript was invented, trying to construct a script like this by hand 04:52 < michaelfolkson> Blockchain was scanned for outputs since the Miniscript release 04:53 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 04:56 < michaelfolkson> I don't have any gauge on how common threshold like scripts (or complex scripts generally) were before Miniscript. Obviously as the price of Bitcoin goes up the demand for more complex scripts goes up as it provides more safeguards 04:56 < sipa> Maybe, maybe not. 04:57 < sipa> Even multisig is still only protecting a tiny portion of funds, I believe. 04:57 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 04:57 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 04:58 < sipa> And P2SH multisig support has existed since 2012. 04:59 -!- z9z0b3t1c [z9z0b3t1c@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/z9z0b3t1c] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 05:02 -!- z9z0b3t1_ [z9z0b3t1c@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/z9z0b3t1c] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:02 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 05:04 < michaelfolkson> Probably not helped by any problems with keys being stolen/used nefariously and/or keys being lost not being made public 05:04 < michaelfolkson> If they were made public more people would care :) 05:05 < michaelfolkson> Tbf the tooling and hardware signer support just hasn't been there so it has probably made sense up to this point not be too clever 05:14 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 05:16 < theStack> interesting, this miniscript bug. the notes say that this could be exploited by miners. but i guess it could also be exploited by users, if they are lucky enough to have a path to a miner with nodes having this policy rule deactived? (unlikely though) 05:24 < michaelfolkson> Out of band communication with a miner right. But the miner could see what you were doing, do the same and mine their transaction instead of yours. Normal anyone-can-spend dynamics 05:25 < michaelfolkson> In reality the miner probably wouldn't see what you were doing. Just mine it if it had a high enough fee 05:27 < michaelfolkson> F2Pool could have seen what 0xB10C was doing, created their own transactions and mined them instead https://b10c.me/blog/007-spending-p2tr-pre-activation/ 05:30 < theStack> yes indeed, the user would ony be successful if the miner is not smart enough to see that he could take the profit instead by changing the output script to an address he controls 06:18 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:28 -!- rubenbor [~rubenbor@saruman.uio.no] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 06:30 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 06:35 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 06:48 -!- Kaizen_Kintsugi_ [Kaizen_Kin@gateway/vpn/protonvpn/kaizenkintsugi/x-74018745] has joined #bitcoin-core-pr-reviews 06:53 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