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07:37 < theStack> regarding the quiz to yesterday's review club (https://bitcoincore.reviews/25527)... i think the answer is D, as we never seem to explicitly remove anything from the script cache (there is not even a method for it). can anyone confirm or deny? :)
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08:38 < glozow> theStack: you are correct :)
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11:40 < pinheadmz> sipa re: "Ed25519 / EdDSA key leakage due to fragility in recommended nonce procedure" does bitcoin always pass the public key to the signer? I'm looking at SignSchnorr and it looks like it gets a keypair object so I assume yes?
11:41 < pinheadmz> but is the public key in that pair cached? saved to disk in the wallet DB? re-computed from secret?
11:41 < pinheadmz> or do we even need to do any of that, since the public key (x at least) is sitting right there in the output we're spending?
11:41 < sipa> @pinheadmz BIP340's nonce generation function includes the public key in its hashing, specifically for this reason.
11:42 < pinheadmz> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0340.mediawiki#cite_note-12
11:42 < pinheadmz> got it, thanks
11:43 < sipa> exactly
11:43 < pinheadmz> ok so where do we get the public key? i guess if we are spending an output we already know what it is
11:44 < pinheadmz> or is there some need to recompute it for sanity check?
11:45 < sipa> libsecp256k1's API uses this keypair object, which stores private key and corresponding precomputed public key
11:46 < sipa> bitcoin core's signer constructs this object at signing time from the private key
11:46 < sipa> but it doesn't matter where it comes from
11:46 < sipa> the point is that the same information goes into the nonce generation and the challenge hash
11:46 < sipa> so you can't change the challenge without also changing the nonce, as that is what leaks key material
11:47 < pinheadmz> oh ok interesting thats what i was getting at i guess, we dont wanna take on extra risk by "optimizing out" the recomputation of public key
11:48 < sipa> right, it's the precomputing + not using the precomputed value in the nonce that's dangerous, if the precomputation would be wrong
11:49 < sipa> so there are three elements that all have to be the case before there is a problem:
11:49 < sipa> * the implementation is precomputing the public key
11:49 < sipa> * an attacker, or a bug, causes the precomputed public key to not correspond to the private key
11:49 < sipa> * the public key (taken from precomputation, if present) is not fed to the nonce generation function
11:50 < sipa> in bitcoin core, hopefully all 3 are the good case
11:51 < pinheadmz> got it ty
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11:55 < sipa> (1) while bitcoin core uses the libsecp256k1 api with precomputed keypair objects, the keypair object is computer at signing time, from the right privkey
11:55 < sipa> (2) hopefully there are no bugd
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11:55 < sipa> (3) the BIP340 nonce generation function uses by libsecp256k1 is the one recommended in the BIP, which feeds the precomputed pubkey to the hasher
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