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07:44 < pinheadmz> https://gist.github.com/pinheadmz/22c29bc0c0f6f516eaaf78fd0fee18ff
07:44 < pinheadmz> is my interpretation of this first tapscript + checksigadd spend correct?
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09:25 < michaelfolkson> pinheadmz: So basically there's no tree, the script is in the Merkle root of where the Taproot tree would be
09:26 < michaelfolkson> And also no tweak
09:27 < pinheadmz> good point, I can add that. There are no hashes in the control block. There IS a tree, but it's just one leaf (the script)
09:27 < michaelfolkson> No forget that on the tweak, this is a script path spend
09:27 < pinheadmz> the root of that tree gets tweaked by the internal public key, which is somewhat interestingly, 0x0000...0001
09:28 < pinheadmz> I also didn't include the taproot commitment (address from the output) in this gist but could
09:29 < michaelfolkson> The root of the tree *is* the tweak. The internal key gets tweaked. But yeah that is an interesting choice of the internal key, not following the BIP guidance
09:30 < michaelfolkson> From the BIP "Pick as internal key a point with unknown discrete logarithm"
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09:32 < michaelfolkson> Is 0x0000...0001 a point with unknown discrete logarithm, you'd guess so
09:32 < michaelfolkson> "In order to avoid leaking the information that key path spending is not possible it is recommended to pick a fresh integer r in the range 0...n-1 uniformly at random and use H + rG as internal key. It is possible to prove that this internal key does not have a known discrete logarithm with respect to G by revealing r to a verifier who can then reconstruct how the internal key was created."
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09:34 < michaelfolkson> I guess the guidance they haven't followed is regarding not leaking the info that key path spending is not possible. If you don't care about this then it is fine
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09:40 < sipa> Yes, 0x0000...0001 clearly has no known DL
09:41 < sipa> unless G was constructed as a known multiple of that point - which seems extremely unlikely, but can't be excluded
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09:45 < michaelfolkson> This seems another example of using a shortcut for simplicity that isn't strictly following the guidance in the BIP
09:46 < michaelfolkson> The other obvious one being not using a tweak when not encoding a script path
09:47 < michaelfolkson> Just taking 0x000....0001 or 0x0000....00002 or 0x0000....00003 etc are all acceptable if you don't care about the information leak of there being no key path 
09:50 < sipa> you can't not tweak when using script path
09:51 < michaelfolkson> Right
09:52 < pinheadmz> sipa am i understanding that script correctly? in https://gist.github.com/pinheadmz/22c29bc0c0f6f516eaaf78fd0fee18ff
09:52 < pinheadmz> its a  1 of 2 multisig
09:52 < pinheadmz> the empty sig doesnt throw an error, its just a 0
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10:01 < michaelfolkson> Have you/ can you run it through btcdeb?
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10:01 < michaelfolkson> It supports Taproot, and I'm guessing CHECKSIGADD
10:02 < pinheadmz> no that looks cool though ill install it
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