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08:40 < pinheadmz> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0341/wallet-test-vectors.json#L80
08:40 < pinheadmz> ASCII for "BIP341"
08:40 < pinheadmz> unknown leaf version 0xfa   ;-)
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09:26 < pinheadmz> sipa this first test case, would actually be spent as an apparent key path spend?
09:26 < pinheadmz> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0341/wallet-test-vectors.json#L4-L18
09:26 < pinheadmz> no scriptTree, no treeRoot
09:26 < pinheadmz> so I imagine the tweak is a "nothing up my sleeve" value, there is no script tree and thats why there are no controlBlocks in this test vector?
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09:44 < sipa> @pinheadmz BIP341 suggests that if you have no script, use H_TapTweak(inner_key) as tweak.
09:44 < sipa> (as opposed to H_TapTweak(inner_key || merkle_root))
09:45 < pinheadmz> ok but since there is no script tree, the validator cannot compute the tweak right?
09:45 < pinheadmz> so the witness for this test vector would look like key spend, not script spend
09:45 < sipa> No tweak is involved in key path spending.
09:46 < sipa> It's just take scriptPubKey key, validate signature against it, period.
09:46 < pinheadmz> not in validation, but there could be in signing right? like you said if oyu have no script...
09:46 < sipa> Yes, and I told you what the tweak is.
09:46 < pinheadmz> right
09:47 < sipa> But it's entirely the choice at signing time, the validator doesn't know or care that any tweaking is involved at all.
09:47 < pinheadmz> so, im running these test vectors through bcoin. and everything works but im "not expected" to be able to compute intermediary.tweak for that first test vector
09:47 < pinheadmz> all the other test vecotrs I CAN compute and check my tweak matches yours, bc there is a script tree
09:48 < sipa> yes you are
09:48 < sipa> i told you how
09:48 < pinheadmz> ok i hear you and i ll check that as well
09:48 < sipa> the tweak is H_TapTweak(inner_key)
09:49 < pinheadmz> but thats not a consensus validation rule is it? its a suggestion for signers
09:50 < pinheadmz> that first test vector has no expected.scriptPathControlBlocks either, so i assume in practice that first vector would be a key spend, as in, one signle witness item (a sig)
09:50 < sipa> indeed
09:50 < sipa> but these are unit tests for signing
09:52 < pinheadmz> indeed! thanks again
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