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02:47 < darosior> Hey all. Thanks josie for hosting, unfortunately i couldn't attend. Just adding a couple things for the curious as i'm reading through the scrollback. :)
02:47 < darosior> Regarding the limits, the element counts limits are not the same under Tapscript. Under P2WSH there may be at most 100 items on the witness before executing the script (excluding the witness script). With Tapscript this limit was lifted (although the standard item size limit was kept). See
02:47 < darosior> https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/blob/5a8bd4505687a7ec76d731b1a8249ee04d641990/src/policy/policy.h#L40-L49.
02:47 < darosior> stickies-v makes a good observation wrt the off-by-one, but Miniscript requires the threshold (and thereby the number of keys) be >1. So the minimum number of stack elements to satisfy a `multi` is 2, and for `multi_a` it's 1.
02:47 < darosior> Yay for the followup!
02:47 < darosior> turkycat: you'll have the empty vector for the `n-k` keys you don't satisfy. Each empty vector will be passed as parameter to a CHECKSIGADD, which will not add anything to the accumulator. Note how the order matters.
02:47 < darosior> stickies-v: for a k-of-n `multi_a` would translate to a script with n CSA but ending in `k NUMEQUAL`. Basically you add the checksig return value for the n keys and you check whether k of them returned 1, whichever it is.
02:47 < darosior> josie: no your explanation is fine. If anyone here is unclear about `multi_a` vs `multi` wrt the `n` property, i'm happy to expand.
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03:03 < stickies-v> thanks for the explanation darosior, I indeed missed that the spec says `1 ≤ k ≤ n`. Then... I don't think I understand in which scenario `multi_a` doesn't consume anything from the stack?
03:04 < darosior> stickies-v: it's not anything, it's whether the top stack element of a satisfaction may be the empty vector
03:06 < darosior> stickies-v: for instance `multi_a(1, A, B)` may be satisfied with either `<> <sig_b>` or `<sig_a> <>`. The former has an empty top stack element. This is never the case for `multi` because you don't provide empty vectors for the pubkeys you don't satisfy, they just not appear in the satisfaction.
03:08 < stickies-v> okay that makes sense, I think I'm just confused about why `multi_a` is no longer `n`. The definition says:
03:08 < stickies-v> "n" Nonzero: this expression always consumes at least 1 stack element, no satisfaction for this expression requires the top input stack element to be zero.
03:09 < stickies-v> I interpreted that as `multi_a` no longer always consumes at least 1 stack element, but if I'm understanding it right it actually is no longer `n` because "no satisfaction for this expression requires the top input stack element to be zero." ?
03:22 < darosior> Yes
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04:23 < stickies-v> ty
04:26 < stickies-v> the notes and questions for next week's review club hosted by josie are up: https://bitcoincore.reviews/27255-2 - it's a continuation of yesterday's TapMiniScript discussion as we still had quite a bit left to cover
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