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17:28 < ariard> BlueMatt: yeah, note i think we're chatting of two different timers here : tick-based added by 1054 and the block-based ones CLTV_CLAIM_BUFFER/LATENCY_GRACE_PERIOD_BLOCKS
17:29 < ariard> if the problem solved by 1054 is to ensure feerate efficiency of our commitment transactions in case of fee spikes, or force-closing if we can't 
17:29 < ariard> i don't get why scaling up the go-to-chain block-based timers improve on that front, closing earlier doesn't improve feerate
17:29 < ariard> well it just prevents to fall more behind
17:33 < ariard> BlueMatt: to hedge against the risk you're describing ("huge fee spikes after weird block variance") makes more sense to me to scale down in proportion the tick-based autoclose timer
17:33 < ariard> somehow to morp the velocity of the fee spikes
17:35 < ariard> yea ideally we would have historical mempool data to set "in function of fee spikes X, after block issuance Y, you should react in Z ticks" assuming perfect counterparty cooperation
17:37 < ariard> BlueMatt: note, the formula between Z <- (X,Y) should be empirically observed, we can still guess guts one for 1054..
17:43 < BlueMatt> ariard: hmmm, why does closing on a tick timer instead of on a new block help?
17:43 < BlueMatt> like, if the next block is really delayed and that's why you're closing, probably its really delayed and the fee is high so you wont get in
17:43 < BlueMatt> i guess if two blocks in a row are delayed maybe thats an argument, but I dont think we'll be closing if we will make it into the next block.
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