--- Log opened Sun Mar 27 00:00:37 2022 01:19 -!- filename [~kilitary@static.246.201.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has joined #bitcoin-rust 02:48 -!- filename [~kilitary@static.246.201.46.78.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:32 -!- filename [~kilitary@188.242.105.134] has joined #bitcoin-rust 07:27 -!- filename [~kilitary@188.242.105.134] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:30 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 08:38 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:38 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 09:01 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:02 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 09:52 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:52 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 10:13 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the 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joined #bitcoin-rust 16:00 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:00 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 16:07 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:07 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 16:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 17:04 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 17:07 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:22 < ariard> BlueMatt[m]: re-1056: so i'm still thinking we're too much apprentice-wizards here without more visibility on the current mempool/historical data, scaling down the go-to-chain deadline might be the wrong reaction if our counterparty goes online to update the fees 17:23 < ariard> and scaling up (i.e taking more time) might be _also_ the wrong reaction if the mempools become more congestioned 17:23 < ariard> if we had anchor, ofc we could break early and correct the shot afterward (though not even sure if the commitment fee is under mempool min fee) 17:24 < ariard> BlueMatt[m]: so unless you feel strong about it, i'll close 1056 for now, we can re-think dynamic reactions when we have anchor/package relay, less odds to screw up 17:29 < ariard> in fact i would be curious to have a "mempool trends" API, "do you predict mempool congestion is going to be under X after Y and with which confidence indice Z" and take early channel closing decision on that 17:34 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:34 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 17:45 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:46 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 17:49 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:49 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 18:00 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 18:04 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:10 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:10 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 18:16 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 18:18 -!- shesek [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:42 < BlueMatt[m]> yea, I don't feel strongly. I agree its very hard to judge this stuff without really good historical data. Honestly someone needs to feed mempool feerate history into some fancy ML model and see what they get. I'm sure it'd find some interesting patterns. 19:42 < BlueMatt[m]> but short of that its hard to do anything toooo clever in lightning 19:42 < BlueMatt[m]> also cause it'll surprise users who will be very very confused why their channel blew up 19:43 < BlueMatt[m]> so, yea, feel free to close. anchor will help, mempool package relay will get us there. 19:56 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:57 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 20:43 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:44 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 21:07 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:07 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 21:21 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 21:23 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:27 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 21:46 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:47 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 21:59 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 22:00 -!- shesek__ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:44 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:45 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 22:49 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:49 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust 23:51 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 -!- shesek_ [~shesek@user/shesek] has joined #bitcoin-rust --- Log closed Mon Mar 28 00:00:39 2022