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For example, what happens if someone puts a bribe out for X btc for miners who produce blocks following a particular fork? 08:14 -!- gloriusAgain [~gloriusag@p57A0A9AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:14 -!- vfor [~Adium@p200300446E4750010006544AA51A0B63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:14 -!- vfor [~Adium@p57A0A9AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:14 -!- gloriusAgain [~gloriusag@p200300446E4750010006544AA51A0B63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:17 -!- jedunnigan [~jedunniga@us2x.mullvad.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:19 -!- koshii [~0@12.216.210.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:19 -!- koshii [~0@12.216.210.219] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:20 -!- gloriusAgain [~gloriusag@p200300446E4750010006544AA51A0B63.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:21 -!- vfor [~Adium@p57A0A9AA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 08:24 -!- koshii [~0@12.216.210.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:25 -!- koshii_ [~0@12.216.210.219] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 08:31 -!- jaekwon [~Adium@75-101-96-71.dsl.static.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12 -!- drawingthesun [~drawingth@106-68-157-235.dyn.iinet.net.au] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 09:12 < gmaxwell> Taek: it's been discussed on bitcointalk before several times... I'm not sure what string to best search for, there was also a recent bitcoin-development thread where it came up. 09:14 -!- zooko [~user@c-75-70-204-46.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:14 -!- vdo [~vdo@unaffiliated/vdo] has quit [Quit: leaF] 09:15 < gmaxwell> The answer is... today, nothing.. probably also not much in the future; but we're not sure. Those kind of attacks, at least when bitcoin is the only asset being reversed, are only rational for the miners under very short term thinking.. "congrats you got the bitcoin, but have throughly eroded trust in the system". Automatically acting on them requires a fair amount of software sophication that no one has bothered with. 09:16 < gmaxwell> It's one of the reasons I consider pools and hosted mining to be greater risks though, since they transfer control of hashpower to people without the long term investment in the equipment. 09:16 -!- wallet42 [~wallet42@unaffiliated/wallet42] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 09:17 -!- hearn [~mike@185.25.95.132] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:18 -!- Burrito [~Burrito@unaffiliated/burrito] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:28 -!- koshii_ [~0@12.216.210.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:30 -!- koshii [~0@12.216.210.219] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 09:30 -!- llllllllll [~lllllllll@37-251-2-42.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl] has quit [] 09:36 -!- zooko [~user@c-75-70-204-46.hsd1.co.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:39 -!- rdponticelli [~quassel@gateway/tor-sasl/rdponticelli] has left #bitcoin-wizards ["http://quassel-irc.org - Chat comfortably. 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Outputs is the hard part. Google 'candidate indistinguishability obfscuation' ... basically they come up with a decryptor that can decrypt the output of fhe. 13:32 < gmaxwell> (of a particular fhe scheme) 13:33 < gmaxwell> so the composition is obfuscation (hopefully) :) 13:33 < gmaxwell> ) 13:34 -!- vmatekole [vmatekole@nat/wmf/x-qnrpyehflrccmltp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:38 < andytoshi> the decryptor was NC^1, and they had an iO candidate for NC^1 ... the FHE was to bootstrap to poly circuits 13:38 < andytoshi> is that what you're talking about? 13:41 -!- nessence [alexl@nat/wmf/x-yingnzophigawwit] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:42 -!- nessence [alexl@nat/wmf/x-gqkalbdoctltcxxw] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:46 -!- nessence [alexl@nat/wmf/x-gqkalbdoctltcxxw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:47 -!- mkarrer_ [~mkarrer@183.Red-83-40-233.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 13:49 -!- mkarrer [~mkarrer@117.Red-83-36-8.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has quit 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Complex, buggy parsers become weird machines for exploits to run on. Help stop weird machines today: Make your protocol context-free or regular." 21:55 < kanzure> fair enough. 22:12 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:13 -!- pen [~linker@42.118.241.21] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 22:23 -!- MoALTz [~no@user-188-33-132-198.play-internet.pl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:48 -!- Cory [~Cory@unaffiliated/cory] has quit [] 22:48 -!- moa [~kiwigb@opentransactions/dev/moa] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 22:53 < amiller> kanzure, I like their langsec explained in a few simple slogans: http://langsec.org/occupy/ 23:21 -!- vmatekole [~vmatekole@f055110130.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:27 -!- MoALTz [~no@user-188-33-132-198.play-internet.pl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:33 -!- DougieBot5000 [~DougieBot@unaffiliated/dougiebot5000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 23:40 -!- AaronvanW [~ewout@158pc208.sshunet.nl] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:40 -!- pen [~linker@115.79.55.177] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:45 -!- chris2000 [~chris2000@tmo-106-254.customers.d1-online.com] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:47 -!- emsid [~emsid@unaffiliated/emsid] has quit [Quit: leaving] 23:50 -!- emsid [~emsid@unaffiliated/emsid] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:53 -!- Luke-Jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:56 -!- damethos [~damethos@unaffiliated/damethos] has joined #bitcoin-wizards 23:56 -!- mmozeiko [~mmozeiko@c-50-184-215-21.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] --- Log closed Wed Oct 22 00:00:23 2014